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Majik1987 02-26-2012 11:30 AM

Molodezhnaya Hokkeinaya Liga (MHL) - Part II
 
Last thread was over 1000 posts. Continue the conversation here.

ozo 02-26-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Majik1987 (Post 44959819)
Last thread was over 1000 posts. Continue the conversation here.

It was over 1100 posts. :yo:

Anyway what could Riga trade to Avtomobilist in exchange for Bukarts? More picks that would return players nowhere near Bukarts class/potential?

Helpoing 02-26-2012 12:43 PM

I think Avto might take a mix of cash and picks. Though Avto isn't such a bad place for Rihards. There isn't enough roster depth, so he might get a few call-ups, plus they also have a MHL team which needs leaders. The only problem is paycheck delay :laugh:

ozo 02-26-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 44964339)
I think Avto might take a mix of cash and picks. Though Avto isn't such a bad place for Rihards. There isn't enough roster depth, so he might get a few call-ups, plus they also have a MHL team which needs leaders. The only problem is paycheck delay :laugh:

Aren't cash payments illegal in KHL? If so, Avto would trade a really good pick for two (or more) useless picks. They should probably pick the best available Russian. Hard to see any Russian team gaining anything from dratfing Rihards, but hey draft is a joke anyway.

Helpoing 02-26-2012 01:28 PM

Nope, cash compensations are legal (we sold Darzinsh, remember?):
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а) договор встречного перехода, заключаемый между Клубами согласно типовой
форме, при этом допускается обмен неравнозначного количества Хоккеистов;
б) договор о переходе Хоккеиста со встречным предоставлением Клубу права вы-
бора в соответствующем раунде на Драфте Юниоров КХЛ;
в) договор о переходе Хоккеиста со встречной уплатой денежной компенсации
Клубу. Размер такой компенсации устанавливается по соглашению между Клу-
бами;

г) договор о переходе Хоккеиста со встречным предоставлением Клубу спортивных
прав в отношении Хоккеиста, находящегося в статусе Конфликт, Закреплен-
ные права, Выбранный игрок, ОСА и др.;
д) смешанный договор – договор о переходе Хоккеиста со встречным предостав-
ление любого сочетания перечисленных в подпунктах а) – г) условий.

ozo 02-26-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 44967607)
Nope, cash compensations are legal (we sold Darzinsh, remember?):

Can't remember selling him. From what, I understand we mutually agreed to part company with him and then he simply signed for Kazan.

Helpoing 02-26-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ozo (Post 44968889)
Can't remember selling him. From what, I understand we mutually agreed to part company with him and then he simply signed for Kazan.

Maybe I'm mixing up things. Nevertheless, you can buy sell players/players' rights legally in the K.

vorky 02-26-2012 04:02 PM

Vlci game today
Ničuškin (95) 0+3

vorky 02-27-2012 04:22 PM

MHL today
1995: Ilja Ivanov, Zadorov and Korenev all 1+0, Šackij and Zykov both 0+1

vorky 02-28-2012 03:53 PM

MHL today
Vlci game

Ljapustin (95) game winning goal

vorky 02-29-2012 02:49 PM

roster for All Star Game MHL U18 - Future Cup or so
east in russian and west in russian

date: 12.march, Chelyabinsk
captains: Khacei (Chacej) and Osnovin
players: 94, 95

why Ivanyuzenkov?? :rant:

vorky 02-29-2012 02:55 PM

MHL today
95ers: Bučnevič a Ilja Ivanov both 0+1, Tolčinskij 1+0
Tolčinskij has 18 goals, it is more than Mikhail Grigorenko had last season (17). Both were youngest players (per date year) of a season. Grigorenko had 35 pts, Tolcinskij has 31 pts but more played games.

Grigorenko
Tolcinskij

Helpoing 02-29-2012 03:23 PM

HK Juniors win their first home game 4:3 and take the lead in the series 2:1 :handclap:

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 45252069)
why Ivanyuzenkov?? :rant:

:help:

Latgale_fan 02-29-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 45252069)
roster for All Star Game MHL U18 - Future Cup or so
east in russian and west in russian

date: 12.march, Chelyabinsk
captains: Khacei (Chacej) and Osnovin
players: 94, 95

why Ivanyuzenkov?? :rant:

I believe there was a vote for starting five and I guess Ivanyuzenkov has a lot of friends, the same about that Dizelist guy from MHL B...... That's why I see some strange surnames where Lipsbergs and Bukarts, imho, should be. In Latvia nobody even noticed that there'll be such a game I guess and even less would know that there was voting for players......

Anyway nice for MHL to do such thing but seems like there are still not many guys who follow MHL very closely and maybe it would've been better that the team would be chosen by coaches of MHL.

Also no offense to Khacei but I think in this list there are some even better candidates than him for captaincy.

Anyway I would've loved to see Latvians represented here and I think Lipsbergs and Bukarts would definitely fit the criteria and could be in top 12 1994/1995 forward category but if there was a vote... well, our bad. And if the vote got in some kind of Dizelist guy and Ivanyuzhenkov then coaches had to include Tolchinsky and Buchnevich etc. top names because otherwise the game would be a farce

Latgale_fan 02-29-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 44964339)
I think Avto might take a mix of cash and picks. Though Avto isn't such a bad place for Rihards. There isn't enough roster depth, so he might get a few call-ups, plus they also have a MHL team which needs leaders. The only problem is paycheck delay :laugh:

Honestly I don't think Vityaz or Avto would be a bad thing for any young player. In both teams you can get decent ice time + there actually are great youth coaches, maybe less in Vityaz but still the main team has Nazarov and even if he talks like a goon and beats fans with a stick, he's a good specialist and one of Team Russia coaches. In Avto the same, maybe their MHL and KHL teams are at the bottom of the table but that's not because of quality of their schools, IMHO, but because they simply don't have money to compete with the big clubs for players, even in MHL level good players move where the money is :shakehead

Latgale_fan 02-29-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 45254073)
HK Juniors win their first home game 4:3 and take the lead in the series 2:1 :handclap:

Here's hope they win the series tomorrow :nod::nod: After that it will be hard though, I don't think that reinforcements from HK Riga will arrive too.
But it'd already be an achievement if boys managed to beat Baltica

vorky 02-29-2012 06:28 PM

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I believe there was a vote for starting five and I guess Ivanyuzenkov has a lot of friends, the same about that Dizelist guy from MHL B......
no, he was not selected by fans, look at fans decision The rest of teams was chosen by coaches or MHL itself.

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Tolchinsky and Buchnevich
both are here

cska78 02-29-2012 08:02 PM

Ivanyuzhenkov has a rich papa, that's why!

Vzhik will tear it up!

Helpoing 03-01-2012 02:18 AM

@Latgale_fan
I'm very upset that absolutely no Latvian guys were named to the U-18 ASG roster. Rih. Bukarts has even a better point per game rate and a better +/- than Barbashev-juniour (both play for outsiders). Ivanyuzhenkov, Ivanov, Busarov, Kvartalnov, Khatsei - at least one Latvian could've been added instead one of those guys.

Agree with your points on Vityaz/Avto.

vorky 03-01-2012 05:45 AM

Club from city of Serov wants to join MHL B for next season

cska78 03-01-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 45296139)
@Latgale_fan
I'm very upset that absolutely no Latvian guys were named to the U-18 ASG roster. Rih. Bukarts has even a better point per game rate and a better +/- than Barbashev-juniour (both play for outsiders). Ivanyuzhenkov, Ivanov, Busarov, Kvartalnov, Khatsei - at least one Latvian could've been added instead one of those guys.

Agree with your points on Vityaz/Avto.

Khatsei is a good player, but Bukharts clearly should have made it.

cska78 03-01-2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 45298321)

it's great that this is official now.

Latgale_fan 03-01-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cska78 (Post 45298709)
Khatsei is a good player, but Bukharts clearly should have made it.

Khatsei is not a bad player but on this roster there are better guys, imho. Sure if some Latvians look only at points in MHL then Khatsei doesn't look that good but he plays for a strong team and he's certainly better than some other surnames here who aren't even on NHL European Midterm rankings list....

then again Khatsei is only 104 in Midterm rankings while Lipsbers 84 and Jevpalovs 86. On the other hand Jevpalovs and Lipsbergs already had an opportunity to play at WJC, for scouts to look at, while any Russian born 1994 who's not Grigorenko could only dream about that, so I don't know. But I think Lipsbergs and Bukarts should've been there. Lipsbergs 27 pts in 54 games might not say much but then some others on this list haven't done better. Also to add the fact that Lipsbergs is HK Riga's top scorer at the moment, whom else to choose as ''the future'' as the potential MHL club's star next season (or even already this season).

Helpoing 03-01-2012 01:31 PM

A real battle going on between HK Juniors and Baltica, 2:2 in the 2nd.

Helpoing 03-01-2012 02:32 PM

VICTORY for Hk Juniors! Great feat!


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