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Erik Estrada 03-03-2012 04:21 PM

Team psychoanalysis: Why zero Killer Instinct?
 
I've been amazed at all the blown leads this season. I don't remember ever seeing anything like it. The Habs have one messed up team psyche. If I had to pinpoint the most egregious problem this season it would be zero Killer Instinct.

Any Ideas what causes this? How it can be fixed?

Note: I just heard Hickey and Marinaro attempt unsuccessfully to answer this question.

Krnage 03-03-2012 04:22 PM

the only Players who have killer instinct is Emelin :naughty:

76ftw 03-03-2012 04:23 PM

Lack of confidence I'd imagine?

Et le But 03-03-2012 04:26 PM

Lack of confidence, not enough leadership on the back end.

The season got off to a bad start and they never mentally recovered. A couple of panic moves by Gauthier (Kaberle trade, coaching change) buried the season.

Lemons 03-03-2012 04:28 PM

The simple answer is "Lack Of"

Aspirine 03-03-2012 05:31 PM

The simple answer is "Meeooow".

Em Ancien 03-03-2012 05:36 PM

Bad/inexperienced D.

/thread

OpenIceHit 03-03-2012 05:38 PM

This is the team philosophy inherited from Gainey two years ago and continued by Gauthier afterward.

Acquiring Gomez, Cammelleri, Gionta, Gill and Spacek in less than 24 hours is not what I would call "in search for a killer instinct type of team". Then aquiring Darche, Campoli and Kaberle to fill up some vacant holes. And there you have your answer.

On the other hand, adding Emeilin and Cole was a big plus. But it is still only 2 players.

WhiskeySeven 03-03-2012 05:43 PM

It's a game of momentum, where the mental mistakes make all the difference. We can have the killer-instinctiest team in the league easily. Just win some games, keep morale up, make the players feel valued as people - boom.

It's obviously not that easy but it's simple.

MoldyCakes 03-03-2012 05:46 PM

No coherent community and players who are capable of raging like Lucic or Pronger.

SouthernHab 03-03-2012 06:05 PM

This is a team that is still playing the Martin strategy. Yes, Martin is gone but his replacement has done little to change and solve this problem.

That along with a very soft and undersized defense (exceptions of Subban, Gorges and Emelin).

Plus, throw in a team that is sorely lacking in confidence and every game becomes an adventure.

idk 03-03-2012 06:19 PM

It's never simple, but I think there's three significant contributing factors:
(1) Weak Start: We came out of the gate weak and that put us back on our heels. By the time we were able to start winning games we had alread dug a significant hole and we were already looking for guys to break out of their slumps.

(2) Panic Moves: Firing Pearn, then trading Spacek for Kaberle and then dumping Martin all in short order has created a lot of fear and confusion on the team. I'm certain some guys are wondering if they're going to be the next scapegoat. At the same time those changes create gaps as people try and adapt. We lost at least a month of games because of these reactionary changes.

(3)Bad Defense: Our defense gives us a chance to lose every game. How the guys can have any confidence in games in our backend is beyond me.

Poulet Kostopoulos 03-03-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 45443609)
This is a team that is still playing the Martin strategy. Yes, Martin is gone but his replacement has done little to change and solve this problem.

That along with a very soft and undersized defense (exceptions of Subban, Gorges and Emelin).

Plus, throw in a team that is sorely lacking in confidence and every game becomes an adventure.

LOL And what strategy would that be? If it's JM's strategy, they would have been blowing leads like this season for the last three years.

It's the inexperienced defense. And then, with RC, it became even worse because the inexperienced defense became an unstructured inexperienced defense.

GeneralManager* 03-03-2012 07:08 PM

We don't have a system and our guys don't really know if they should play defensive or offensive...stuck in limbo essentially. Either stay back and play a trap style and counterattack game or forecheck hard and go for the throat...we do neither.

Coach Brisebois* 03-03-2012 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krnage (Post 45439779)
the only Players who have killer instinct is Emelin :naughty:

+ Ryan "The Way" White

llamateizer 03-03-2012 07:45 PM

the killerinstinct parameter is set to false

Toastman 03-03-2012 07:46 PM

Blowing that many leads has got to be the coaches fault !

Lshap 03-03-2012 07:53 PM

I wouldn't call blowing leads to be a lack of killer instinct, I'd say it's a lack of maturity and experience. Semantics, maybe, but either way there's no doubt that blown leads are almost entirely a mental problem. Mental problems can be improved with time and experience - which is potentially good news for our young roster.

Anyone know how many leads we've blown? I'd love to know our record if games were two periods!

Skarjak 03-03-2012 08:44 PM

Look at this team. This is a one line team. The only good forward not on the first line is Plekanec.

When you rely on the same three guys every single game, it's hard to have much killer instinct. You need offensive production from all lines, otherwise you're asking the top line to score 3 goals per game...

We might be bigger now, but there's very little talent left in our forward group.

uocooco 03-03-2012 08:48 PM

Tank mindset

Montreal Typical 03-03-2012 08:52 PM

This team simply lacks talent.

Universe 03-03-2012 08:56 PM

Thing I never understand is we can go 10 minutes without a scoring chance but as soon as we get scored on, the next shift seems to have "energy" and attacks the net.

I know the opposition goes on the defensive but have seen it SO much this season. Why not play every shift at that speed?

Lafleurs Guy 03-03-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railman (Post 45456381)
This team simply lacks talent.

Sadly, in a nutshell this post sums it up.

No top end talent. One line that scores with any kind of consistency. Good goaltending. A couple of decent blueliners and uh.... that's about it.

The team desperately needs to add top end talent to its roster. Let's just hope and pray that we land an elite offensive talent at the draft.

Jee 03-03-2012 08:58 PM

They want Yakupov as well.

Lshap 03-03-2012 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skarjak (Post 45455559)
Look at this team. This is a one line team. The only good forward not on the first line is Plekanec.

When you rely on the same three guys every single game, it's hard to have much killer instinct. You need offensive production from all lines, otherwise you're asking the top line to score 3 goals per game...

We might be bigger now, but there's very little talent left in our forward group.

I sort of agree, but let's face it - part of the problem is a lack of cohesive coaching. We've moved from defensive, strategic hockey to aggressive, scrappy forechecking, but the players haven't had time to adjust. We still fall back into our timid shells in the third period. This is where a coach needs to inspire his players, or at least scare the crap out of them.

But yes, we need talent on more than one line. Bourque SHOULD be an effective scorer, Gionta SHOULD give us some real offense - we'll see next year. The crap shoot is how well young guys like Eller and Leblanc continue to develop. No sure-fire prospects coming up, with Gallagher being the best. Our magical upcoming draft pick will still need some time, which leaves... UFAs. Personally, I'd rather blow our wad on Suter, but if that's not possible (and let's face it - it's not) I'd be happy with Zach Parise. Even... Grabovski.


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