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ArrogantOwl 12-09-2011 11:10 AM

The video doesn't work and I think Warrior offers some Int. Sticks in a 55 flex. Also, It'd be nice to see a section on puck control.

PlayoffBeard 12-14-2011 04:36 PM

Great Read. Thanks.

Kritter471 12-14-2011 05:43 PM

I love this guide, but I will also offer this caveat for women, particularly beginners. Given that we have less proportional upper body strength than men, you need an even lower flex than men of your height. I saw a huge difference when i went from a 70 flex intermediate that was, admittedly, too long to a 50 flex (the tallest junior stick I could find - I'm 5'4 and this comes up to my lips in bare feet).

IDuck 12-14-2011 05:55 PM

pretty good....arnt your pics of the blade "faces" backwards though?

VerySuperFamous 03-12-2012 12:00 AM

What hockey stick should I buy?
 
Any advice for what hockey stick I should buy? And cost? More for casual games than serious leagues so I'm not really looking for NHL calibre.

What I'm looking for
-good for snap/wrist shots
-light and mobile, great for dangling
-medium-long reach

kurt83 03-12-2012 12:45 AM

I picked up an Easton EQ30 about a month ago and I love it. It's not a "high end" stick by any means but if you are a casual player the performance is just fine. Plus, if something stupid happens and it breaks (someone stomps on the blade during a face-off, etc.) and it breaks, it won't be too painful on the wallet to replace.

I find the stick seems to be rather durable and the blade is of pretty high quality for the price point. Also, it doesn't vibrate like some people have said some mid range sticks do.

Just my 2 cents

hockeymass 03-12-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VerySuperFamous (Post 45932227)
Any advice for what hockey stick I should buy? And cost? More for casual games than serious leagues so I'm not really looking for NHL calibre.

What I'm looking for
-good for snap/wrist shots
-light and mobile, great for dangling
-medium-long reach

What sticks have you used before? I would recommend either a Bauer Supreme One60 or Vapor X4.0. Personally, I like the P88 (Kane) curve, it's got a slight open face which helps get some nice loft on your shots.

Reach shouldn't be a concern, all sticks are more or less the same length off the rack.

bp spec 03-12-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeymass (Post 45933571)
What sticks have you used before? I would recommend either a Bauer Supreme One60 or Vapor X4.0. Personally, I like the P88 (Kane) curve, it's got a slight open face which helps get some nice loft on your shots.

Reach shouldn't be a concern, all sticks are more or less the same length off the rack.

I use the P88 curve with the Supreme OnePro. Decent stick for the price, but is worth it when you use 15 sticks a season. It's good for snappers and wristers. Quite good for backhands too. I can't shoot the slappers that I used to. Or I can at least not rise the shots as well as I could with for an example P92 or 19.

CornKicker 03-12-2012 08:54 AM

depending on when you live you should look om Kijiji.ca or Craigslist. lots and i mean LOTS of semi-pro and junior/college players sell pro stock sticks for average around $100. If you were going to buy one from teh store for around or over that you should look for these instead. I got 3 RBK 11K's for $250, one of them is around $260 retail.

the description you gave is more about flex than the stick type. all high end sticks are light and easy to manuver. you want more whip go with a 65-85flex, if you want stiff or you are a heavy guy go with 95-110 flex.

also remember that every 1" you cut off a stick increase teh flex by 10

AIREAYE 03-12-2012 10:11 AM

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1050635

I really hope you've read this before posting, there are so many duplicate topics out there about the exact same thing that you could do a search and at least one thread will address your every need.

If you have any more specific questions about sticks, go ahead, but for general inquiries like that, best to use resources already available.

VerySuperFamous 03-12-2012 02:35 PM

Thanks to everyone who has helped. The semipro sticks are something I'll really have to look into. I'm too small for major junior(about St. Louis's size or maybe a little bigger:laugh:). So the heavier sticks aren't for me and slapshots aren't a focus.

ATLhockey437 03-12-2012 03:29 PM

Bauer Vapor X40 or 4.0 I can't remember. See if you could find a one80. They're a year old in the product line but feel just as light as One 100's.

thedonger 03-12-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VerySuperFamous (Post 45949751)
Thanks to everyone who has helped. The semipro sticks are something I'll really have to look into. I'm too small for major junior(about St. Louis's size or maybe a little bigger:laugh:). So the heavier sticks aren't for me and slapshots aren't a focus.

it would help if you gave a price range(and specify CAN$ or US$, big difference).

i find Sherwood's current nexon line to be a great bang for the buck.

VerySuperFamous 03-12-2012 04:49 PM

Price really isn't an issue.

Of course since it's casual I'd prefer not to spend too much since it's probable it breaks eventually. Realistically I'd like to keep it as cheap as possible since I'd expect it to break but anything under $1000 would be fine.

Though I don't expect to spend nearly that much unless I'm playing in a professional league(which I probably won't be).

ponder 03-12-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VerySuperFamous (Post 45955611)
Price really isn't an issue.

Of course since it's casual I'd prefer not to spend too much since it's probable it breaks eventually. Realistically I'd like to keep it as cheap as possible since I'd expect it to break but anything under $1000 would be fine.

Though I don't expect to spend nearly that much unless I'm playing in a professional league(which I probably won't be).

Was that a typo, and you actually meant under $100? There are no sticks that cost even remotely close to $1000 (unless you're talking about having a company make a custom curve for you and including the mold fees, but that's incredibly rare). Absolute top of the line sticks are generally around $250, mid range sticks are generally around $100, and low end sticks are generally around $50.

Jarick 03-12-2012 04:55 PM

How long have you been playing?

Stickmata 03-12-2012 04:59 PM

If you have the money, get the pretty one.

VerySuperFamous 03-12-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponder (Post 45955883)
Was that a typo, and you actually meant under $100? There are no sticks that cost even remotely close to $1000 (unless you're talking about having a company make a custom curve for you and including the mold fees, but that's incredibly rare). Absolute top of the line sticks are generally around $250, mid range sticks are generally around $100, and low end sticks are generally around $50.

Nope I have just never bought my own sticks. Either bought them from a friend/borrowed or gotten them as gifts.

I've been playing casually for about eight years and am sixteen. Hockey's pretty serious where I'm from though(Kelowna). Lots of stars played junior here or live here in the summer.

Stickmata 03-12-2012 07:42 PM

I am in love with the Vapor 7.0 in the Stamkos pattern with the Griptac. Great feel and definately a stickhandler's pattern, with a nice snap to it. But Looocy, eet ees espenseeve.

VerySuperFamous 03-12-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickmata (Post 45963825)
I am in love with the Vapor 7.0 in the Stamkos pattern with the Griptac. Great feel and definately a stickhandler's pattern, with a nice snap to it. But Looocy, eet ees espenseeve.


Ballpark cost? I found one that was $210+tax but I don't know if it's the same one.

Listed under:Bauer Vapor X 7.0 GRIPTAC Sr. Composite Hockey Stick

Loyal2TheOil 03-12-2012 08:16 PM

It depends on your price point. The more you spend on your stick the lighter it will be, as well as more responsive. You get a more consistent kickpoint and consistent shot with higher price sticks due to better energy transfer compared to the lower end, heavier, primarly fiberglass based sticks. Keep in mind an expensive stick doesnt necessarily make you a better player, it may help you but only to an extent.

As for dangles, that's more what you practice, however a mid-toe curve will be better for pulling off those nasty toe-drags but you sacrifice backhand. As for medium to long reach, I just want to say if youre a guy who likes to dangle a lot then a shorter stick will give you more puck control. By shorter stick I mean cutting it down, most sticks are going to be relatively the same height off the shelf. Finally, for good wrist shots and snap shots you want a stick with a low kickpoint.

With all that being said I would recommend 6K/8K/9K/11K from rbk in the p38 (datsyuk) pattern. From bauer use the vapor line (supreme is midkick) so either the X 4.0, X 7.0 or apX in the kane or backstrom curves. From easton you would probably want the stealth line so either 65s, s14, s17, s19, RS in the sakic/hall pattern or a heatley or iginla. I'm not as familar with the CCM sticks, but I know the you would probably be looking for a Tavares pattern from them. Hope this helps.

thedonger 03-12-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VerySuperFamous (Post 45962303)
Nope I have just never bought my own sticks. Either bought them from a friend/borrowed or gotten them as gifts.

I've been playing casually for about eight years and am sixteen. Hockey's pretty serious where I'm from though(Kelowna). Lots of stars played junior here or live here in the summer.

sounds like even though cost isn't an issue, you still want a decent bang for the buck, correct?

if that's the case, i wholeheartedly recommend the sherwood nexon n12, which is their new pro level stick. great stick for the money. about as light as any of the other top line sticks out there but much cheaper. i believe they are the same price canadian as they are for the US market...which makes them that much of a better deal for the canadian market...still an excellent value in the US though at $189 compared to $230+(US) for other brands' top line sticks.

if it's true that the vapor x7.0 is pretty much an updated x60, then that is also a very good suggestion. shoots rockets, particularly for wristers/snappers and is quite light. wasn't too fond of the feel though on my x60...not sure if the blade is any different on the x7.0. found it tricky receiving passes as the blade was so lively on my x60.

AIREAYE 03-12-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedonger (Post 45969649)
sounds like even though cost isn't an issue, you still want a decent bang for the buck, correct?

if that's the case, i wholeheartedly recommend the sherwood nexon n12, which is their new pro level stick. great stick for the money. about as light as any of the other top line sticks out there but much cheaper. i believe they are the same price canadian as they are for the US market...which makes them that much of a better deal for the canadian market...still an excellent value in the US though at $189 compared to $230+(US) for other brands' top line sticks.

if it's true that the vapor x7.0 is pretty much an updated x60, then that is also a very good suggestion. shoots rockets, particularly for wristers/snappers and is quite light. wasn't too fond of the feel though on my x60...not sure if the blade is any different on the x7.0. found it tricky receiving passes as the blade was so lively on my x60.

The 7.0 is actually a down spec'd X:60. The 60 featured Bauer's best carbon weave, the TeXtreme, while if you look at the 7.0, the carbon weave is much smaller and presumably of lower quality. Same blade core though, but you might or might not notice a different puck feel between the two due to the weave.

hyster110 03-12-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loyal2TheOil (Post 45965911)
It depends on your price point. The more you spend on your stick the lighter it will be, as well as more responsive. You get a more consistent kickpoint and consistent shot with higher price sticks due to better energy transfer compared to the lower end, heavier, primarly fiberglass based sticks. Keep in mind an expensive stick doesnt necessarily make you a better player, it may help you but only to an extent.

As for dangles, that's more what you practice, however a mid-toe curve will be better for pulling off those nasty toe-drags but you sacrifice backhand. As for medium to long reach, I just want to say if youre a guy who likes to dangle a lot then a shorter stick will give you more puck control. By shorter stick I mean cutting it down, most sticks are going to be relatively the same height off the shelf. Finally, for good wrist shots and snap shots you want a stick with a low kickpoint.

With all that being said I would recommend 6K/8K/9K/11K from rbk in the p38 (datsyuk) pattern. From bauer use the vapor line (supreme is midkick) so either the X 4.0, X 7.0 or apX in the kane or backstrom curves. From easton you would probably want the stealth line so either 65s, s14, s17, s19, RS in the sakic/hall pattern or a heatley or iginla. I'm not as familar with the CCM sticks, but I know the you would probably be looking for a Tavares pattern from them. Hope this helps.

looking at a low end stick you wont need to worry about the flex point, cause unless your buying top of the line sticks your not going to have a decent one. as for a good snap shot, that all practice as well, as i find the low kick and the mid kick sticks preform about the same

hockeymass 03-12-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedonger (Post 45969649)
sounds like even though cost isn't an issue, you still want a decent bang for the buck, correct?

if that's the case, i wholeheartedly recommend the sherwood nexon n12, which is their new pro level stick. great stick for the money. about as light as any of the other top line sticks out there but much cheaper. i believe they are the same price canadian as they are for the US market...which makes them that much of a better deal for the canadian market...still an excellent value in the US though at $189 compared to $230+(US) for other brands' top line sticks.

if it's true that the vapor x7.0 is pretty much an updated x60, then that is also a very good suggestion. shoots rockets, particularly for wristers/snappers and is quite light. wasn't too fond of the feel though on my x60...not sure if the blade is any different on the x7.0. found it tricky receiving passes as the blade was so lively on my x60.

I think the APX is closer to the X60, with a TotalOne-ish blade.

If you're looking to come in under A THOUSAND(!!!!???) then just get an APX or a TotalOne or something. Honestly, I would recommend paying a visit to a hockey store and just seeing what's out there.


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