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stalockrox 03-13-2012 06:57 PM

Sebastian Stalberg signed
 
@steffeg Viktor Stålberg's younger brother Sebastian has signed with the #SJSharks out of U of Vermont. (via @hockeysverige) Fw scored 31 pts in 31.

Gene Parmesan 03-13-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stalockrox (Post 46013235)
@steffeg Viktor Stålberg's younger brother Sebastian has signed with the #SJSharks out of U of Vermont. (via @hockeysverige) Fw scored 31 pts in 31.

If he's as fast as his brother then good.

SactoShork 03-13-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gene Parmesan (Post 46013597)
If he's as fast as his brother then good.

Sounds like he's more of the prototypical DW guy...

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sebastian is more slow of foot (when compared to viktor), doesn't have the dynamic offensive skills, is a kick-ass face-off man, and seems to be more of a in the zone type of player rather than one that plays through the zones like viktor.
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...php?p=40177727

:cry:

Janney 03-13-2012 07:12 PM

Some stats:

http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=9703

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=123532

Has decent/good numbers in college, his age (22) is a bit of a concern.



http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1042427

One poster's analysis:
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he's a lot different than Viktor, comparing their NCAA careers. Viktor dominated college hockey with his speed, his speed and body size combined, as well as his shot. sebastian is more slow of foot (when compared to viktor), doesn't have the dynamic offensive skills, is a kick-ass face-off man, and seems to be more of a in the zone type of player rather than one that plays through the zones like viktor.
From the sound of that, Sebastian is more of a responsible bottom-six type guy.

Brent Burns 03-13-2012 07:13 PM

Sounds pretty meh

210 03-13-2012 07:13 PM

San Jose is at 50 NHL contracts, and based on my understanding of the CBA they don't have an NHL contract slot available until 7/1 to sign him...

Led Zappa 03-13-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 210 (Post 46014093)
San Jose is at 50 NHL contracts, and based on my understanding of the CBA they don't have an NHL contract slot available until 7/1 to sign him...

What's the difference with Connolly and this signing, contract wise?

210 03-13-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zappa (Post 46014291)
What's the difference with Connolly and this signing, contract wise?

I don't understand the question...

Led Zappa 03-13-2012 07:19 PM

Nevermind. Brainfart.

stalockrox 03-13-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 210 (Post 46014093)
San Jose is at 50 NHL contracts, and based on my understanding of the CBA they don't have an NHL contract slot available until 7/1 to sign him...

If this is true, maybe he's signing an ATO for the rest of this season in Worcester - or, maybe there's something w/ the current contracts that fans don't know about...or, maybe this isn't true.

Led Zappa 03-13-2012 07:22 PM

OK. We got Winnik and Galiardi and shipped out Sgarbossa, Connolly and McGinn. How does that not open a contract spot?

210 03-13-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stalockrox (Post 46014495)
If this is true, maybe he's signing an ATO for the rest of this season in Worcester - or, maybe there's something w/ the current contracts that fans don't know about...or, maybe this isn't true.

He would be the type of player that would be offered an ATO to see if he's going to be worth an NHL contract, so that's certainly feasible. San Jose has gone that route before too...Dave MacDonald in 07-08 comes to mind right away.

stalockrox 03-13-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zappa (Post 46014611)
OK. We got Winnik and Galiardi and shipped out Sgarbossa, Connolly and McGinn. How does that not open a contract spot?

Sgarbossa's contract didn't count towards the 50 this season as he' was still playing in the CHL - that contract 'slides'.

210 03-13-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zappa (Post 46014611)
OK. We got Winnik and Galiardi and shipped out Sgarbossa, Connolly and McGinn. How does that not open a contract spot?

Sgarbossa's contract didn't count because he was under 20 and in Juniors...San Jose really has more than 50 but a couple (Hamilton, Anderson) don't count.

Led Zappa 03-13-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stalockrox (Post 46014723)
Sgarbossa's contract didn't count towards the 50 this season as he' was still playing in the CHL - that contract 'slides'.

OK, I had the wrong guy. So playing in College doesn't allow the same "slide". Got it.

The Nemesis 03-13-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zappa (Post 46014889)
OK, I had the wrong guy. So playing in College doesn't allow the same "slide". Got it.

There's no slide because they can't have contracts until they leave college. The moment you put your signature on a contract, you forfeit NCAA eligibility and can no longer play collegiate hockey. That's why NCAA players have a longer draft rights window than their CHL counterparts (collegiate draftees, or those headed to college after being drafted out of Jr B get until their college class graduates, so at most 4 years. CHL players get 2 years I believe). In essence, CHL contracts having that sliding nature is to essentially to give them a similar rights window and amateur development period as their NCAA counterparts (since CHL player contracts slide as long as the player remains in the CHL, which they can do until the season where they come to camp at 20 years old). Otherwise you draft a CHL kid at 17 and don't sign him, he goes back into the draft at 19.

210 03-13-2012 07:36 PM

I posted this in the prospect's thread a few days ago, so for those that may have missed it...from the definitions section of the CBA concerning "reserve list":

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"Reserve List" means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:
(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players
and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to
Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from
inclusion in the 50 Player limit.

Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as
determined by the Commissioner.
(b) Unsigned Draft Choices.


LadyStanley 03-13-2012 07:38 PM

AIUI, even though he (has allegedly) signed today, the contract does not count until next season, so the Sharks are not going above the 50.

(They would have to have space in their 80-player reserve list going forward. Although my copy of the CBA says that it's a 90-player reserve list. YMMV)

Gene Parmesan 03-13-2012 07:41 PM

Of course the Sharks get the slow brother.

210 03-13-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 46015757)
AIUI, even though he (has allegedly) signed today, the contract does not count until next season, so the Sharks are not going above the 50.

(They would have to have space in their 80-player reserve list going forward. Although my copy of the CBA says that it's a 90-player reserve list. YMMV)

It counts the second he signs it. There are no exceptions anywhere in the CBA that I can find that prevents that contract from counting. If you can show somewhere in the CBA where this contract wouldn't count I'd love to see it.

LadyStanley 03-13-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 210 (Post 46016053)
It counts the second he signs it. There are no exceptions anywhere in the CBA that I can find that prevents that contract from counting. If you can show somewhere in the CBA where this contract wouldn't count I'd love to see it.

Contract starts for 12-13 season (new deals for undrafted free agents can sign as soon as 3/1), not 11-12 season.

sjshark91 03-13-2012 07:43 PM

Slow, no offense. He'll fit right in.

210 03-13-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 46016243)
Contract starts for 12-13 season (new deals for undrafted free agents can sign as soon as 3/1), not 11-12 season.

Please post the section, page number, anything from the CBA that shows this contract would not count.

Woodhouse 03-13-2012 07:52 PM

The report says it's a 2yr ELC:
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*Google translated*

After three successful seasons in the U.S. takes 22-year-old once again the same steps as his older brother and replacing the NCAA against an NHL contract. As hockeysverige.se experience comes from Gothenburg on Wednesday to sign a two-year two-way contract with the San Jose Sharks and immediately connect to the club farmarlag Worcester Sharks of the AHL. Sebastian Stålberg Vermont has had a heavy season in the U.S. college hockey and finished last in Hockey East after only having taken six wins all season.

Link: http://www.hockeysverige.se/article/...r-nhl-kontrakt (Swedish)

Nighthock 03-13-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sjshark91 (Post 46016287)
Slow, no offense. He'll fit right in.

none taken


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