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HH 03-14-2012 02:54 PM

2007-2008 and first half 2008-2009 Canadiens
 
Watching some old games on youtube. THAT team was really exciting to watch and moving the puck flawlessly.

What happened in the second half of that season again?

Em Ancien 03-14-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryHabs (Post 46070003)
Watching some old games on youtube. THAT team was really exciting to watch and moving the puck flawlessly.

What happened in the second half of that season again?

Price injury and wasn't very good after, Lang injury (became more or less a 1-line team), bad powerplay until we got Schneider, distractions probably played some part.

Overall, we got into a downward spiral of bad performances and injuries, didn't really get out of it until Halak put together some strong performances, Schneider + big 3 (Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay) took over afterwards, but we still looked like a bad team due to lack of depth.

JGRB 03-14-2012 02:59 PM

Price got hurt, and played terrible upon his return.

Lang was our best centerman and he fell to an injury.

Tanguay was our leading scorer and he fell to an injury.

Same old same old.. Injuries, oh and we also lost Mathieu Schneider to injury at one point and also Markov during the last game of the season (one reason why Boston steam rolled us).

I believe there was other, albeit less significant, injuries as well..

habs03 03-14-2012 03:10 PM

On paper that team that 2009 was sick, but missing a top 4 D-Men.

Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
A.Kost-Plek-Kovalev
Latendresse-Lang-S.Kost
Begin-Chipchura-Kostopoulo
Laraque


Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-O'byrne/Brisebois
Bouillon-Dandenault
Gorges

Price

Habs 4 Life 03-14-2012 03:20 PM

Ya I remember both Lang and Latendresse got hurt the same weekend, was a huge blow to the team. I think it was Superbowl weekend, went downhill after that and fast

habscup 03-14-2012 03:27 PM

Depressing looking at the lineup we have now and compare it to that lineup just 3 years ago.

That year all our lines were good, not just some plugs which play on our current 2,3 and 4th lines.

speed11 03-14-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habs03 (Post 46070705)
On paper that team that 2009 was sick, but missing a top 4 D-Men.

Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
A.Kost-Plek-Kovalev
Latendresse-Lang-S.Kost
Begin-Chipchura-Kostopoulo
Laraque


Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-O'byrne/Brisebois
Bouillon-Dandenault
Gorges

Price

i remember for a decent amount of time, entire first line was hurt.

habs03 03-14-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed11 (Post 46071533)
i remember for a decent amount of time, entire first line was hurt.

ya, I don't think we ever got to see that line up in full, I remember Higgins was hurt early on, and it just kept rolling, but on paper that team was nice, expect for O'byrne/Brisebois playing with Hamrlik.

Habsolument 03-14-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habs 4 Life (Post 46071175)
Ya I remember both Lang and Latendresse got hurt the same weekend, was a huge blow to the team. I think it was Superbowl weekend, went downhill after that and fast

That team was on pace, at the halfway point of the season, to beat the 07-08 season point total by quite a lot.

HH 03-14-2012 03:41 PM

They were 27-11-6 on January 17th and on pace to have an 112 pts season (8 pts better than 07-08)

In the first 44 games they won some games by scores of 6-1, 6-2 (twice), 6-3, 4-1 (three times), 4-0, 5-2 (twice)

Carbonneau was named assistant coach in the ASG as the Habs were second best in the East at that point. (4th in conference as Boston led the division)

They scored 141 goals and on pace for 263 goals (same pace as 07-08)

Toastman 03-14-2012 03:47 PM

Hahaha Schneider !!!!!!! I remember that !

ThaDevilGirl 03-14-2012 04:02 PM

Darkest day in Habs history.

The 100th season made for way too many distractions.

LouisJCloutier 03-14-2012 04:05 PM

2008-2009 should have been an incredible season if not for injury.

We were a top team until Lang got hurt, then it was downhill. Coming into the playoff half the team was injured and Price wasn't able to win game by himself.

Em Ancien 03-14-2012 04:07 PM

Something I'll never understand is letting Kostopoulos go. I mean, you can make a case about changing culture and whatnot, but a 3rd/4th line warrior, playoff performer, wanted to be here, was a great guy in the community AND spoke french? A guy that was brought in as an FA and not a part of the long-standing Habs nor a key figure that could really take the heat for the team's bad performances?

Mind-blowing.

smon 03-14-2012 04:12 PM

Those could have been 2 very good years. 07-08 felt like it could have been our year but Gainey could not get Hossa and traded away Huet a bit early since Price was not good in the playoffs.

08-09 was poised to be so awesome. Finally a legit contender, Gainey spent the summer chasing Mats Sundin before settling on Robert Lang and got another big name forward in Alex Tanguay. But he did not replace Mark Streit on the powerplay and he erred big-time there.

Aside from the PP, unfortunately, the team just imploded around the ASG. Lunatic fans voted in gems such as Mike Komisarek to the starting lineup. Price went, injured himself, then sucked the rest of the year. Lang went on the shelf around Super Bowl weekend and then that was that. Higgins, Koivu and Tanguay missed a heck of a lot of time. Everyone else, excepting General Markov, just played worse than the year before - the Kovalev-Kostitsyn-Plekanec line was healthy but Kovalev just wasn't as good as 07-08 and the other two were just not very good. Komisarek missed some time and generally sucked after getting beat down by Milan Lucic.

Before Carbonneau got fired there was also a lot of media furore over players such as Price, Komisarek, Gorges and Higgins partying too much. And the media created some scandal of Hamrlik and the Kostitsyns knowing a mob-connected person. It couldn't have helped the team much.

It was actually depressing watching them stumble into the playoffs. They qualified by losing in OT, Markov injured himself a few games prior (!) and the writing was on the wall- painful to watch. The D was horrible minus Markov and Schneider playing injured...Coach Gainey put Laraque on a top line for a game with Koivu and Kovalev, and the brooms were out. Tanguay apparently wrote his ticket out of town by not playing hurt.

I still remember watching the final painful game. And the CBC guys were just going, well Koivu has to do something now...and I remember thinking the team was horrible. Quite the fall from the start of the year, only 5 or 6 goals scored all series by the Habs. And being behind the bench I guess made Gainey blow up the team which I question.

Go Habs Go 03-14-2012 04:53 PM

I think pressure was a big reason on top of the injuries. Nobody ever said it outright but everybody wanted a cup that year (media, fans and the team itself). When was the last time we saw the Habs pursue players of Sundin's calibre so aggressively? It would've been an incredible fairy tale story. But eventually with all the injuries, the pressure was too much for the rest of the team.

People poopoo on Gainey but he tried his best to assemble a fantastic team for the centennial but only to watch it fall apart because of injuries and pressure.

The Russian General 03-14-2012 05:16 PM

That year and half was the best hockey the Canadiens played since the 93 cup. Exciting, dominating transition game, good possession, lethal PP, etc.

Em Ancien 03-14-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Habs Go (Post 46075113)
I think pressure was a big reason on top of the injuries. Nobody ever said it outright but everybody wanted a cup that year (media, fans and the team itself). When was the last time we saw the Habs pursue players of Sundin's calibre so aggressively? It would've been an incredible fairy tale story. But eventually with all the injuries, the pressure was too much for the rest of the team.

People poopoo on Gainey but he tried his best to assemble a fantastic team for the centennial but only to watch it fall apart because of injuries and pressure.

He was doing fine until that summer. That was just...ugh...

Stradale 03-14-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habs03 (Post 46070705)
On paper that team that 2009 was sick, but missing a top 4 D-Men.

Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
A.Kost-Plek-Kovalev
Latendresse-Lang-S.Kost
Begin-Chipchura-Kostopoulo
Laraque


Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-O'byrne/Brisebois
Bouillon-Dandenault
Gorges

Price

3 years later, we only have Plek, Gorges, Markov and Price left.

FlyingKostitsyn 03-14-2012 05:31 PM

Compared to 07-08 Plekanec had a disappointing year offensively. Kovalev also to an extent even tho he managed to get back on track eventually, mostly on the PP (I think).

In the playoffs the team had so many injuries and morale was visibly shaken.

Le Tricolore 03-14-2012 05:35 PM

So much hope heading into the season, but so much went wrong.

Myron Gaines* 03-14-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Tricolore (Post 46076835)
So much hope heading into the season, but so much went wrong.

I remember going into the season with high hopes of winning the cup.

We finally had a legit reason to believe.

Mrb1p 03-14-2012 05:44 PM

Injuries, injuries, injuries and inuries.
Tanguay, Lang, Latendresse, Price, Koivu(I think), Higgins, Schneider, markov heeeeeeeh....

that team was better than any other team aligned in the NHL.

HH 03-14-2012 05:57 PM

The first half of the season was great too. Just fell apart after the ASG.

swimmer77 03-14-2012 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habs03 (Post 46070705)
On paper that team that 2009 was sick, but missing a top 4 D-Men.

Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
A.Kost-Plek-Kovalev
Latendresse-Lang-S.Kost
Begin-Chipchura-Kostopoulo
Laraque


Markov-Komi
Hamrlik-O'byrne/Brisebois
Bouillon-Dandenault
Gorges

Price

Liked this team a lot. Liked "The Cube" dropping the gloves. Komi was a terror. Kovalev on the half boards. Hamr was hammering. Lang was smooth. The K bros were progressing.

Always wondered what caused that team to just implode or maybe it was just a culmination of things already mentioned. Was very sad to see that team ripped apart. I miss Saku.

And they owned Boston.


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