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angry_treefrog 03-18-2012 01:27 PM

Wolski (and Tallon) appreciation thread
 
Has any deadline acquisition been more important to their team than Wolski?

Off the top of my head, there are at least three points the Panthers lose in the standings without him (last night being one). He is playing first line minutes and is always getting noticed on the ice.

I sarcastically joked before the deadline about Tallon getting a productive young, top 6 forward for a throw-away pick (and having that player ride in on a pink unicorn), but the son of a gun Tallon actually pulled it off... well, minus the unicorn.

Wolski for a 3rd??? Well played, Mr Tallon. Well played. :handclap:

I May Be Wrong 03-18-2012 01:41 PM

Really liking his game. He sees the ice well and has soft hands. He gets in on the forecheck and actually goes to the net. He's been very impressive in his stint here. I just wish he would shoot more! Excellent move by Tallon. Excellent.

RainingRats 03-18-2012 01:46 PM

I feel like Wolski has a lot more offense in him. I could see him putting up more points per game than he is now. He's way more physical than I expected and he really looks like he likes it here. I noticed Ramsay talks to him a lot when he's on the bench. I bet he's going to be here next season.

A+ move. Great offensive insurance.

CaptainScrewy 03-18-2012 01:48 PM

He is a RFA this off-season, correct? Even though people warned us that he would be great early but possibly fade, I'd like to see us re-sign him. Give him a top 6 role and he thrives..he was a 65 point producer last time given top 6 minutes.

He is the kind of scoring winger an elite playmaker like Huberdeau needs. I've loved his game thus far, don't really see any other good replacements out there for him.

PanthersHockey1 03-18-2012 01:50 PM

it looks like hithcock is a lock for the adams award. Could tallon win GM of the year? There is no other team GM that has turned around his team in one season with a whole new cast of players as tallon has done.

Carlzner 03-18-2012 01:53 PM

This is what happens every time Wolski joins a new team........

Just saying...

Hope he does well though, liked him on the Avs.

RainingRats 03-18-2012 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=CaptainScrewy;46294377]He is a RFA this off-season, correct? Even though people warned us that he would be great early but possibly fade, I'd like to see us re-sign him. Give him a top 6 role and he thrives..he was a 65 point producer last time given top 6 minutes.

He is the kind of scoring winger an elite playmaker like Huberdeau needs. I've loved his game thus far, don't really see any other good replacements out there for him.[/QUOTE]

I agree. There isn't much. A one or two year deal would be fantastic.

PanthersHockey1 03-18-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braden Carlzner (Post 46294807)
This is what happens every time Wolski joins a new team........

Just saying...

Hope he does well though, liked him on the Avs.

your post is hypocritical. Its not the new team effect is the top line effect. The last time wolski was given good line mates and lots of time on the ice was the last time he produced big numbers in colorado. Given flash and weiss as linemates he could easily eclipse those numbers.

Ghoste 03-18-2012 03:26 PM

I really like his 'don't take any crap' attitude. Very refreshing.

I think we all have been wanting that J. Jokinen-type shootout specialist for quite sometime now. If Tallon re-signs him, he along with Huby should help us win more shootouts next season

-ghoste

PanthersHockey1 03-18-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoste (Post 46300561)
I really like his 'don't take any crap' attitude. Very refreshing.

I think we all have been wanting that J. Jokinen-type shootout specialist for quite sometime now. If Tallon re-signs him, he along with Huby should help us win more shootouts next season

-ghoste

Not to mention a couple more games in regulation. :naughty:

Knightmare 03-18-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braden Carlzner (Post 46294807)
This is what happens every time Wolski joins a new team........

Just saying...

Hope he does well though, liked him on the Avs.

Hater.

adam graves 03-18-2012 04:15 PM

helluva pickup. I recall LOL at people concerned we gave up a 3rd, a person who has a 12% chance of making the NHL

Tallon, god bless you.

flapanthersfan 03-18-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightmare (Post 46301999)
Hater.

more like realist. Wolski has done this before - he had 18 points in 18 games with the Coyotes when they acquired him, then was a complete dud the next season.

I have always liked Wolski ever since he was on Colorado, and he's doing very well for us right now. The key is just to continue to play this way and not regress. hopefully his stint with the Rangers was a wake-up call for him and he doesn't take his talent for granted anymore.

CatscratchFever 03-18-2012 04:37 PM

Shrewd move. A good feeling to have the fate of my favorite hockey club in capable hands again. It's been a LONG time, brothers!

SoundwaveIsCharisma 03-18-2012 04:45 PM

Avs fan here. Hope Wolski can keep this up for you guys, he has tremendous physical gifts and has some insane hockey skills. His problem has always been that he is not always motivated to go to the difficult areas, and isn't always invested in playing a complete game. When he does he is a bonafide impact player. Maybe the Rangers stint really woke him up and got him to realize that he has to play with intensity all the time.

adam graves 03-18-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundwaveIsCharisma (Post 46303589)
Avs fan here. Hope Wolski can keep this up for you guys, he has tremendous physical gifts and has some insane hockey skills. His problem has always been that he is not always motivated to go to the difficult areas, and isn't always invested in playing a complete game. When he does he is a bonafide impact player. Maybe the Rangers stint really woke him up and got him to realize that he has to play with intensity all the time.

So far he has...and then some...

FlaPnthrsPunk 03-18-2012 09:11 PM

I can definitely see why Tallon was eyeing him as he's a great fit for the roster and what he can bring to the table with intensity in his game and shootout percentage. I'm hoping he's re-signed at some point for next season for sure.

LUUUUUIS 03-18-2012 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundwaveIsCharisma (Post 46303589)
Avs fan here. Hope Wolski can keep this up for you guys, he has tremendous physical gifts and has some insane hockey skills. His problem has always been that he is not always motivated to go to the difficult areas, and isn't always invested in playing a complete game. When he does he is a bonafide impact player. Maybe the Rangers stint really woke him up and got him to realize that he has to play with intensity all the time.

Oh man! Soundwave! Glad you don't post here often, your username and avatar are distracting to my inner-child.

We all know (I'm hoping this includes Tallon and Santos) that Wolski has a tendency to drop in performance after the newness wears off. I'm a fan of the short-term contract idea. Let him stay for next season and maybe the next. A placeholder while our prospects develop. If he did in fact get a reality-check in New York and continues to play well, then we can only benefit.

SufferingCatFan 03-19-2012 06:54 AM

Would love to resign him to a reasonable, 2 year contract in the $1.8-2 million range.

I am pretty much reconciled to letting the rest of our UFA's go, including Garrison, who is not worth (to us) the contract he is apparently demanding, but will no doubt get the money elsewhere.

jakethesnake23 03-19-2012 07:49 AM

Judging by the posts so far im sure my opinion will be unpopular. But remember when we tried to predict next years line-ups? We already have a huge amount of guys signed for next year. Not counting UFA's and RFA's theres something like 12-14 legitimate NHL forwards ALREADY looking to be on the team next year (including rookies). My point being that theres not alot of spots available for an upgrade to the teams below average offense. Samuelsson is 1 spot (and i hope Hubs will take that) and Wolski is another. I seriously believe we should be looking to upgrade that spot.

Wolski has contributed directly to a few wins, no disputing that whatsover. We needed some scoring depth and he has provided that. To only get him for a 3rd was good as well. I honestly have no problem with him as an acquisition for this years team.

But his impact HASN'T been enormous and I would really prefer to get someone better in there for next years team. His salary is way over priced for his impact as well.

Especially since our offense hasn't been great this year (only 180 goals), I don't wanna go into next year with basically the same group of forwards. I would like an upgrade.

But, yes, a good acquisition for this team thus far!

LUUUUUIS 03-19-2012 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakethesnake23 (Post 46329753)
Judging by the posts so far im sure my opinion will be unpopular. But remember when we tried to predict next years line-ups? We already have a huge amount of guys signed for next year. Not counting UFA's and RFA's theres something like 12-14 legitimate NHL forwards ALREADY looking to be on the team next year (including rookies). My point being that theres not alot of spots available for an upgrade to the teams below average offense. Samuelsson is 1 spot (and i hope Hubs will take that) and Wolski is another. I seriously believe we should be looking to upgrade that spot.

Wolski has contributed directly to a few wins, no disputing that whatsover. We needed some scoring depth and he has provided that. To only get him for a 3rd was good as well. I honestly have no problem with him as an acquisition for this years team.

But his impact HASN'T been enormous and I would really prefer to get someone better in there for next years team. His salary is way over priced for his impact as well.

Especially since our offense hasn't been great this year (only 180 goals), I don't wanna go into next year with basically the same group of forwards. I would like an upgrade.

But, yes, a good acquisition for this team thus far!

I don't think Dale will blow up the roster like he did last year. As it stands, we have 6 UFAs and 4 RFAs. Some of them will get signed up, and I think Wolski's chances at this point are 50/50 of being one of them.

I May Be Wrong 03-19-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakethesnake23 (Post 46329753)
Judging by the posts so far im sure my opinion will be unpopular. But remember when we tried to predict next years line-ups? We already have a huge amount of guys signed for next year. Not counting UFA's and RFA's theres something like 12-14 legitimate NHL forwards ALREADY looking to be on the team next year (including rookies). My point being that theres not alot of spots available for an upgrade to the teams below average offense. Samuelsson is 1 spot (and i hope Hubs will take that) and Wolski is another. I seriously believe we should be looking to upgrade that spot.

Wolski has contributed directly to a few wins, no disputing that whatsover. We needed some scoring depth and he has provided that. To only get him for a 3rd was good as well. I honestly have no problem with him as an acquisition for this years team.

But his impact HASN'T been enormous and I would really prefer to get someone better in there for next years team. His salary is way over priced for his impact as well.

Especially since our offense hasn't been great this year (only 180 goals), I don't wanna go into next year with basically the same group of forwards. I would like an upgrade.

But, yes, a good acquisition for this team thus far!

UFA pool looks shallow, I don't know the likelihood that we get a real good upgrade over Wolski. To be quite honest, I don't think we've seen what Wolski is truly capable of. Sure he's done well enough for a rental, but I know he has more to give offensively.

RainingRats 03-19-2012 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakethesnake23 (Post 46329753)
Judging by the posts so far im sure my opinion will be unpopular. But remember when we tried to predict next years line-ups? We already have a huge amount of guys signed for next year. Not counting UFA's and RFA's theres something like 12-14 legitimate NHL forwards ALREADY looking to be on the team next year (including rookies). My point being that theres not alot of spots available for an upgrade to the teams below average offense. Samuelsson is 1 spot (and i hope Hubs will take that) and Wolski is another. I seriously believe we should be looking to upgrade that spot.

Wolski has contributed directly to a few wins, no disputing that whatsover. We needed some scoring depth and he has provided that. To only get him for a 3rd was good as well. I honestly have no problem with him as an acquisition for this years team.

But his impact HASN'T been enormous and I would really prefer to get someone better in there for next years team. His salary is way over priced for his impact as well.

Especially since our offense hasn't been great this year (only 180 goals), I don't wanna go into next year with basically the same group of forwards. I would like an upgrade.

But, yes, a good acquisition for this team thus far!

Wolski could put up 40-50 points which would be good as a second liner. The issue again is that the UFA market is weak. If we can sign him to a good deal, we should do it.

Short of a blockbuster trade to get a superstar, I don't think our lineup will be much different going into next season. Hubs and Markstrom are the only two obvious differences. We may or may not lose Garrison (I think he's as good as gone) as well but that's up in the air at this point.

harv3317 03-20-2012 08:03 AM

i think wolfski has more to give. he's been good, but i believe we've only scratched the surface. the guy needs to shoot more, otherwise i'm very satisfied and would like to see him back at a reasonable price.


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