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HF Article 03-18-2012 02:35 PM

Flyers top-20 features numerous NHL players
 
With a recreated roster, the Philadelphia Flyers are once again a significant competitor in the Eastern Conference.

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Flyotes 03-19-2012 10:50 PM

Very nice, Chris.

CS 03-19-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DownieFaceSoftener (Post 46381849)
Very nice, Chris.

Thanks.

And for those curious about Couturier and Read, who graduated literally right before this came out:

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Originally Posted by Chris Shafer (Post 46381871)
New Top 20 by the way for Spring 2012. It's going to change quickly though due to graduations. Read and Couturier are already gone.

(N/A) Sean Couturier - 8.5B (graduated)
1. Brayden Schenn - 8.5B (12 games until graduation)
(N/A) Matt Read - 7.0B (graduated)
2. Eric Wellwood - 6.5B (48 games until graduation)
3. Erk Gustafsson - 7.0C (35 games until graduation)
4. Marc-Andre Bourdon - 6.5B (26 games until graduation)
5. Jason Akeson - 7.0C
6. Brendan Ranford - 7.5D
7. Nick Cousins - 7.0C
8. Brandon Manning - 7.0C (61 games until graduation)
9. Ben Holmstrom - 5.5A (58 games until graduation)
10. Zac Rinaldo - 5.0A (9 games until graduation)
11. Blake Kessel - 7.0D
12. Niko Hovinen - 7.0D
13. Mike Testwuide - 6.0C
14. Oliver Lauridsen - 6.0C
15. Harry Zolnierczyk - 5.0A (29 games until graduation)
16. Tom Sestito - 5.5B (38 games until graduation)
17. Marcel Noebels - 6.0C
18. Colin Suellentrop - 6.0C
19. Micheal Parks - 6.5D
20. Tyler Brown - 5.5C


sobrien 03-19-2012 11:02 PM

Excellent job :handclap:

JohnnyOnTheSpot 03-20-2012 09:56 AM

Can anyone point me to some literature that explains what the number/letter system means? I've never seen it before and couldn't find info on the site, and I'm never really delved into this prospect stuff before.

Vikke 03-20-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyOnTheSpot (Post 46394393)
Can anyone point me to some literature that explains what the number/letter system means? I've never seen it before and couldn't find info on the site, and I'm never really delved into this prospect stuff before

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

Flyersfan1493 03-20-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyOnTheSpot (Post 46394393)
Can anyone point me to some literature that explains what the number/letter system means? I've never seen it before and couldn't find info on the site, and I'm never really delved into this prospect stuff before

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

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JohnnyOnTheSpot 03-20-2012 10:19 AM

Awesome, thanks guys! Lidstrom isn't a once in a decade player though?? Lol.

CS 03-20-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyOnTheSpot (Post 46395375)
Awesome, thanks guys! Lidstrom isn't a once in a decade player though?? Lol.

Generational talent really implies "the best" or "top two."

Lidstrom was a great defenseman and certainly a hall-of-famer, but is he up there with Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, and others? I don't believe so.

I do believe however that he's getting close. Lidstrom is absolutely incredible.

JohnnyOnTheSpot 03-20-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Shafer (Post 46395519)
Generational talent really implies "the best" or "top two."

Lidstrom was a great defenseman and certainly a hall-of-famer, but is he up there with Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, and others? I don't believe so.

I do believe however that he's getting close. Lidstrom is absolutely incredible.

Re-read it, don't know where I came up with once in a decade haha. I can't argue what you're saying, nor will I here since it's not the place, so good article and I'm glad to understand it!

mirimon 03-21-2012 05:12 PM

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Zolnierczyk displayed his speed, his forechecking, and his defensive prowess.
Scrabbles has a lot of work with his defensive game if he's ever gonna be a regular NHLer. He was pretty terrible defensively, at least imo. The fact that Couturier has such strong defensive numbers despite playing quite a lot with Zolnierczyk (and Rinaldo, though he is clearly better) is really, really impressive.

Otherwise I think it was a pretty good list. I would probably have McGinn in there somewhwere myself. From what little I've seen of the Phantoms this year, and also from the prospect camps, I really like his compete level.

CS 03-21-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mirimon (Post 46480729)
Scrabbles has a lot of work with his defensive game if he's ever gonna be a regular NHLer. He was pretty terrible defensively, at least imo. The fact that Couturier has such strong defensive numbers despite playing quite a lot with Zolnierczyk (and Rinaldo, though he is clearly better) is really, really impressive.

Otherwise I think it was a pretty good list. I would probably have McGinn in there somewhwere myself. From what little I've seen of the Phantoms this year, and also from the prospect camps, I really like his compete level.

McGinn is 21, but I just had to give Brown the nod. The organization really likes him, and I don't foresee McGinn's game ever translating to a top 9 role. He has the upside, but I'm not sure it's enough.

Where Scrabbles is concerned, I think he's solid defensively. Maybe we've been watching different things. He's not the best defensive player, but he makes up for a lot of his own lapses with speed and compete level.

FlyersFan61290 03-21-2012 05:29 PM

would love to see testwuide get some NHL games under his belt. i thought he was good in the few preseason games he played this year but was sent down after that boarding call (which went unpunished by the NHL and rightfully so). i haven't seen him all that much but when i have (outdoor classic and a few other games) he was one of the better phantoms every shift. he's a beast along the boards and is above average defensively. oh yeah and the fact that he will drop them and is pretty damn big doesn't hurt either (6'3" 216lbs). a line of testwuide-coots-talbot would be great on d.

oh and thanks chris :handclap:

mirimon 03-21-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Shafer (Post 46480809)
McGinn is 21, but I just had to give Brown the nod. The organization really likes him, and I don't foresee McGinn's game ever translating to a top 9 role. He has the upside, but I'm not sure it's enough.

Where Scrabbles is concerned, I think he's solid defensively. Maybe we've been watching different things. He's not the best defensive player, but he makes up for a lot of his own lapses with speed and compete level.

He definitely has the speed. His positional awareness is awful, however, so he often has to chase to get back in line. I'm not saying he's a lost cause, a lot of (most) rookies struggle defensively. If he can do like Nödl, who also was pretty terrible in his first stint with the Flyers, and really work on this part of the game down in the AHL for a while, he could become a pretty damn decent energy guy who is a threat on the PK as well.


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