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Lafleurs Guy 03-22-2012 08:12 PM

Worst GM In Montreal's History
 
There may be others lost in the sands of time but I figured I'd stick with the last 30 years or so.

Let's see there's Irving Grundman who drafted Wickenheiser over Savard (many have defended this trade but their defense has fallen on deaf ears from those who can't forgive the sin of losing Denis Savard.)

There's Rejean Houle who's responsible for 'the Trade' and was accused of being a puppet of Ron Corey's.

Bob Gainey makes an appearance here given his half-hearted and then aborted rebuild.

And finally we have Mr. Gauthier who has guided the club to what seems like a probable last place finish in the Eastern conference as well as a Lottery Pick.

Discuss.

PricePkPatch 03-22-2012 08:17 PM

The end result might be bad for Gauthier, but at least he had some good and some bad moments (more bad than goods).

There is nothing good that came out of Houle's reign.

Lafleurs Guy 03-22-2012 08:18 PM

I think Houle is going to run away with this one. I'd be curious to see if anyone disagrees and why.

ReVeuF 03-22-2012 08:18 PM

Worst trade in Habs history : the Roy trade

Who made the trade ? Rejean Houle

He got my vote !

llamateizer 03-22-2012 08:20 PM

cant really judge on this statement
need more info

Lafleurs Guy 03-22-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewBACHa (Post 46548643)
cant really judge on this statement
need more info

Which guy would you least want as the GM of your franchise?

Habs 03-22-2012 08:21 PM

I blame Corey and Molson for the Roy trade, no way they let Houle pull that off without approving it first.

Bob Gainey has to be the worst, PG is going to steal that award if he sticks around.

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 03-22-2012 08:27 PM

If there's any time to use AINEC, it's now!

HOULE AINEC!

Monctonscout 03-22-2012 08:34 PM

Houle is on a level on his own.

Claimed Off Waivers 03-22-2012 08:36 PM

Houle is the worst GM in the history of hockey, maybe even in all of professional sports.

VAN-HAB 03-22-2012 08:37 PM

Rejean Houle is probably the worst but Gainey got my vote. I would like to take this opportunity and say again:
**** you Mr. Gainey, and **** you Mr. Gauthier.

FiveForDrawingBlood 03-22-2012 08:38 PM

I voted for Houle but in fairness he should never have been there in the first place. He had zero experience in front office and go right to running the Habs. That's quite the jump

PricePkPatch 03-22-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiveForDrawingBlood (Post 46550215)
I voted for Houle but in fairness he should never have been there in the first place. He had zero experience in front office and go right to running the Habs. That's quite the jump

the person appointing him has been extremely incompetent, that's for sure. This might absolve some of the blame off Houle.

BUT

This doesn't change the fact that, on a whole, Houle was the worse GM. This isn't the GM who should shoulder the most blame, but the single worst one :naughty:

Captain Saku 03-22-2012 08:55 PM

Houle is the worse.

Gainey improved the team but the Gomez and Ribeiro trades alone put him a close 2nd.

onice 03-22-2012 08:55 PM

I voted Gainey.

Houle had to cope with a scouting staff that became dormant under Savard, with Ronald Corey who micromanaged everything and an ownership group that demanded he shed payroll.

Gainey had Timmins - one of the best head scouts in the business - and he still manged to destroy this team. He has no excuse for his terrible moves except that he's a terrible GM.

Agnostic 03-22-2012 08:57 PM

On the trade front it's a close call.
Houle might take it on the bad drafting.

But then again he drafted Markov, Ryder, and Ribeiro and quite frankly he didn't have Timmins to rely on.

Also questionable how much power Houle actually had under Corey.

I guess Houle by a nose.


Edit: I think Gauthier could actually win this given enough time.

Harpo 03-22-2012 09:02 PM

Voted Houle, but the last two bozos have a nice curriculum of ****ey trades.

walsy37 03-22-2012 09:09 PM

really - how could anyone not vote for Houle? The man had absolutely no clue and no plan. I feel bad about the hand he was dealt but does not mean he was not the absolute worse GM in the history of the team, maybe the of any team in the last 20 years (including Mike Milbury).

donghabs98 03-22-2012 09:10 PM

i think it's Rejean Houle by a long shot

every trade he lost
he couldnt bring in big Free Agents well not most canadiens GMs can

Man can you think if Roy stayed a hab till he retired history would be very different

ChemiseBleuHonnete 03-22-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy (Post 46548063)
There may be others lost in the sands of time but I figured I'd stick with the last 30 years or so.

Let's see there's Irving Grundman who drafted Wickenheiser over Savard (many have defended this trade but their defense has fallen on deaf ears from those who can't forgive the sin of losing Denis Savard.)

There's Rejean Houle who's responsible for 'the Trade' and was accused of being a puppet of Ron Corey's.

Bob Gainey makes an appearance here given his half-hearted and then aborted rebuild.

And finally we have Mr. Gauthier who has guided the club to what seems like a probable last place finish in the Eastern conference as well as a Lottery Pick.

Discuss.

Absolutely impossible to judge. Houle had to deal with one of the worst budget possible, everytime he had a good player that was going to become a UFA (or sign for more money) he had to deal him and he never even had the chance to sign an UFA worth mentionning. The latter two worked in a cap era with equal chances to every other GM. That's not even comparable.

Mathradio 03-22-2012 09:17 PM

Gainey but then again I could have chosen Houle.

sXe 03-22-2012 09:19 PM

Voted Houle. The Franchise never truly recovered from the Houle Era !
Altough if you give the Gainey/Gauthier enough time they could manage to do just as bad.

Theosis 03-22-2012 09:22 PM

Definitely Houle.

Not The One 03-22-2012 09:27 PM

Did somebody ever come out with a book or another behind-the-scene article about the Houle era? I still can't understand on what basis he was hired. I mean, what are his major standout qualities:

- Good guy, very likable.
- Good company man.
- ???????

There were so many bad hockey decisions at a time when Molson was loosing money with the team, I think it's obvious that he was always supposed to be a fall-guy for ownership's inability to compete financially. And now once again a Molson is running the team into the ground.

Can anybody recommend anything to read about the subject?

Schooner Guy 03-22-2012 09:30 PM

Houle and it's not even close. Horrible trades, horrible drafting, and lineups full of AHL calibre players. There was no reason to be optimistic during entire Houle era. He drafted horribly and always threw a prospect away in every trade.

We've at least been competitive under Grundman, Gainey and Gauthier (other than this year).


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