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JayQueensNY88* 03-29-2012 06:57 AM

Mitchell
 
I can not stand this guy..he is an AHL'er..Torts is obsessed with the guy...

What I would give to have Avery in his spot.This guys sucks. last few weeks all im see'ing is how he is hurting more than helping.

maybe its just me,but there has to be a better replacement.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!

x BEUKEBOOM x 03-29-2012 07:22 AM

Just a cheap line up plug till one of our highly touted prospects makes the jump next season.

Just gotta weather the storm for now. No biggie, he ain't the worst thing to wear a blueshirt.

Giacomin 03-29-2012 07:36 AM

I was a big Avery supporter but I finally came to the realization that his team has passed. Talent wise he is much better than Mitchell but Torts seems to be pushing the right buttons this year. Mitchell has played decent at times and is a typical 12th forward.

Rangers Fail 03-29-2012 07:41 AM

Last night, he was along the boards. Had Staal wide open with a clear shooting lane. Instead, he holds onto the puck for an hour, and only passes it to Staal once the Winnipeg winger already covered him. Just one example of his stupidity with the puck.

haohmaru 03-29-2012 07:42 AM

Forty nine - twenty one - seven

pld459666 03-29-2012 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayQueensNY88 (Post 46909723)
I can not stand this guy..he is an AHL'er..Torts is obsessed with the guy...

What I would give to have Avery in his spot.This guys sucks. last few weeks all im see'ing is how he is hurting more than helping.

maybe its just me,but there has to be a better replacement.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!

I'm as big an avery fan as there is, but that ship has sailed.

This team WITH Johnny Malkin has 49 wins.

There's no arguing that fact.

I think I'd prefer to have Newbury or Yogan before Avery at this point.

Levitate 03-29-2012 08:11 AM

Mitchell is more reliable than Avery defensively and in the neutral zone, and doesn't turn the puck over as much in the offensive zone as Avery.

He's an offensive black hole but *most* of the time he can at least control the puck and cycle it well without dangerous turnovers

When Tortorella tried to put him on the top two lines, however, it was ugly

Dangleberry 03-29-2012 08:11 AM

It could be worse. Based on what I've read on the Toronto boards, he likes to dangle against with 4 defenders in front of him. So far, I haven't seen any of that.

lbrowne 03-29-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Henriks Broadway Hat (Post 46910369)
Last night, he was along the boards. Had Staal wide open with a clear shooting lane. Instead, he holds onto the puck for an hour, and only passes it to Staal once the Winnipeg winger already covered him. Just one example of his stupidity with the puck.

I usually give players the benefit of the doubt but he's after doing this enough here and there over the last few games and it's now drove me bonkers. I actually yelled at the TV last night on that exact play.

People can hate Avery all they want, he would have made that pass. Along with 95% of other NHL players.

Not sure if people got a short memory either but Avery was really strong down low and on the half boards in the offensive zone. But I admit defensively Mitchell is better.

As much as I liked Avery on the team I'm not clamoring to get him back at the expense of Mitchell - but Torts really needs to sit him down and replay the tape over and over of missed play to Staal last night and recently the missed play to a pinching Del Zotto. There's been a couple others too. All in the last stretch of games.

Stugots 03-29-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TooLinePass (Post 46910967)
It could be worse. Based on what I've read on the Toronto boards, he likes to dangle against with 4 defenders in front of him. So far, I haven't seen any of that.

That's pretty much what he did in the instance that Henriks Broadway Hat is referring to. He had Staal wide open at the point and was trying to stickhandle around like 3 guys along the boards.

silverfish 03-29-2012 08:49 AM

He's like Nylander, except after the 5th spin in the offensive zone he just shoots wide or turns it over, not pass to Jagr :naughty:

ogie 03-29-2012 08:53 AM

News flash ...Sean Avery will never play for the Rangers ever again. It's like the sopranos ...it's over time to find a new show.

Stepan Razor 03-29-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayQueensNY88 (Post 46909723)
I can not stand this guy..he is an AHL'er..Torts is obsessed with the guy...

What I would give to have Avery in his spot.This guys sucks. last few weeks all im see'ing is how he is hurting more than helping.

Torts loves Mitchell because in the defensive and neutral zones...he plays a solid NHL game. As soon as the guy gets into the offensive zone, though, he loses any vision whatsoever. It looks like he panics into forcing plays which often lead to everything coming the other way.

Rupp plays a very similar game, albeit a bit slower, but when you watch him in the offensive zone - he doesn't force anything. He knows his offensive limitations and tries to hold the puck against the boards instead of trying to make a play that he isn't capable of making.

Crease 03-29-2012 09:00 AM

Talent =/= effectiveness.

Mitchell > Avery.

Crease = awesome.

Sticky Fingers 03-29-2012 09:13 AM

Dah. He's doing what can be expected for <1million/year on 4th line. Other players underperformances on this team bothers me more.

EEDAWGZ 03-29-2012 09:30 AM

Oh how quickly we forget, Mitchell played some good hockey for us when he was called up, I thought he was solid his first couple of weeks with the team, but his game gone south , IMO I think he has got some potential , at this point I trust Torts and whatever decision he makes

The Beezer 03-29-2012 09:50 AM

No problem with Mitchell, with exception to the Buffalo game (which was a little bad luck mixed in), I feel like he's been solid and not liability that most of the people thought he was going to be. But for the most part, I really don't expect him seeing much ice time in the playoffs. And by some miracle Zuccs makes it back for the playoffs, Mitchell will probably find himself as the odd man out as Torts will probably go with his man Fedotenko.

OverTheCap 03-29-2012 10:12 AM

I can live with him if he's just there and doesn't contribute much, but his overhandling of the puck often leads to turnovers and there's no reason for a 4th liner to be putting himself in a position where it's easier for him to lose the puck. Turnovers killed us in the playoffs last year so he has to be a lot more careful with the puck and not hold on to it so long. It shouldn't be such a difficult thing for him to do but this is clearly something that has plagued "Johnny Malkin" throughout his career.

Inferno 03-29-2012 12:14 PM

i like him, i just think he tries to do too much out there and thats when he has problems.

BlueshirtBlitz 03-29-2012 01:50 PM

Mitchell could be a very good third liner with his size and skill.

He's not, though.

Hope he's not on the roster next season. Let him do radio commentary whenever Kenny Albert can't though, he has a golden voice.

Jabroni 03-29-2012 01:54 PM

If he played within his skillset, he'd be a very good player.

The problem is, he thinks that he's Jaromir Jagr out there.

CM Lundqvist 03-29-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by haohmaru (Post 46910389)
Forty nine - twenty one - seven

John Mitchell.

Not the New York Rangers, but John Mitchell.

CM Lundqvist 03-29-2012 02:34 PM

Mitchell is a joke offensively and not because he's not the most talented player the world, it's because he plays like an assclown with the puck.

Dumbass needs to pass the puck instead of thinking that he's Gretzky and can stickhandle through 5 guys before passing.

BlueshirtBlitz 03-29-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haohmaru (Post 46910389)
Forty nine - twenty one - seven

Brett Lebda won a ring with the Wings, does that make him good?

bernmeister 03-29-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabroni1994 (Post 46926749)
If he played within his skillset, he'd be a very good player.

The problem is, he thinks that he's Jaromir Jagr out there.

Agree he can contribute, positively, noticeably and certainly.
Wouldn't say "very good" just yet.
Is willing to do dirty work in corners which has me overlook to partial degree some of the justified criticism, although I'd keep that in perspective.

Does he screw up constantly?
Or just have this Gretzky fantasy once in a while every 5th or 6th game?


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