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zorz 04-06-2012 06:06 AM

General Talk '12 — Czech Republic
 
current state of the roster...

Goaltenders:
Jakub Kovář (HC České Budějovice)
Petr Mrázek (Ottawa 67's)
Jakub Štěpánek (SKA St. Petersburg, KHL)

Defensemen:
Miroslav Blaťák (Salavat Yulaev Ufa, KHL)
Petr Čáslava (CSKA Moskva, KHL)
Lukáš Krajíček (Dinamo Minsk, KHL)
Jakub Krejčík (HC Slavia Praha)
Zdeněk Kutlák (Ambrě-Piotta, SUI)
Tomáš Mojžíš (TPS, FIN)
Jakub Nakládal (Salavat Yulaev Ufa, KHL)
Ondřej Němec (Severstal Cherepovets, KHL)

Forwards:
Michael Frolík (Chicago Blackhawks, NHL)
Aleš Hemský (Edmonton Oilers, NHL)
Lukáš Kašpar (Barys Astana, KHL)
Petr Koukal (HC Pardubice)
Jan Kovář (HC Plzeň)
David Krejčí (Boston Bruins, NHL)
Milan Michálek (Ottawa Senators, NHL)
Petr Nedvěd (Bílí Tygři Liberec)
Jiří Novotný (Barys Astana, KHL)
Jakub Petružálek (Amur Khabarovsk, KHL)
Tomáš Plekanec (Montréal Canadiens, NHL)
Petr Průcha (SKA St. Petersburg, KHL)
Petr Tenkrát (HC Sparta Praha)
Tomáš Vincour (Dallas Stars, NHL)
Michal Vondrka (HC Slavia Praha)

zorz 04-06-2012 06:13 AM

Defense looks ok for the beginning of April, give me 1 or 2 more Dmen and we can do something with that material. Offense still needs some serious update though.

zorz 04-06-2012 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcaiBerry (Post 47410367)
nothing else needs

lol! :sarcasm:

CRSeven 04-08-2012 02:34 PM

Tomáš Vincour said he'll go if he's invited.

Mirinho 04-09-2012 04:46 AM

as goalies I'd take:

#1 Pavelec
#2 Štěpánek
#3 Mrázek

even if WSH won't beat BOS I wouldn't change it

cibtom 04-09-2012 09:59 AM

Ales Hemsky confirmed that he'd like to join the team. Ladislav Smid has some problems with his neck.

zorz 04-09-2012 10:00 AM

Hemsky confirmed, awesome! :nod:

edit: lol, you beat me by seconds cibtom :-)

Erathian 04-11-2012 03:38 AM

So, it seems that we are without Pavelec...

zorz 04-11-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erathian (Post 47714831)
So, it seems that we are without Pavelec...

if true - idiots.

joey16 04-11-2012 01:07 PM

Too bad.. two biggest losses we could´ve had - Rolinek and Pavelec. Let´s hope Neuvirth is available after first round NHL Play Off. I guess Stepanek would be OK but not great.

I´m also not sure about Nedved. He is still awesome hockey player but I don´t really like his personality, I just don´t see him leading the team to some success, maybe I´m wrong.
Straka would be much better (I know he said he woudn´t come).

What do you guys think?

zorz 04-11-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey16 (Post 47733209)
Too bad.. two biggest losses we could´ve had - Rolinek and Pavelec. Let´s hope Neuvirth is available after first round NHL Play Off. I guess Stepanek would be OK but not great.

I´m also not sure about Nedved. He is still awesome hockey player but I don´t really like his personality, I just don´t see him leading the team to some success, maybe I´m wrong.
Straka would be much better (I know he said he woudn´t come).

What do you guys think?

What do I think? Let's see...

- I'm Stepanek fan, but I agree he won't steal many games. He's not a weakness either, so I have no problem with him in the net.
- I don't mind Rolinek, but I don't think he's that big loss. I would take him if he was healthy, but I can easily live without him on the team.
- Nedved has an elite shot and experience, these to things make him valuable, so I think it's ok if he's going. But he's not very useful without the puck and can dissapear for periods or even games. I think he will be useful against some weaker teams, but in real games he won't be a factor.
- I'm glad Straka isn't going. I think he's not good enough anymore to contribute on this level. I may be wrong, but I'm happy we're not gonna find out.

Swipes 04-11-2012 01:26 PM

[QUOTE]
Quote:

Originally Posted by joey16 (Post 47733209)
Too bad.. two biggest losses we could´ve had - Rolinek and Pavelec. Let´s hope Neuvirth is available after first round NHL Play Off. I guess Stepanek would be OK but not great.

I´m also not sure about Nedved. He is still awesome hockey player but I don´t really like his personality, I just don´t see him leading the team to some success, maybe I´m wrong.
Straka would be much better (I know he said he woudn´t come).

What do you guys think?

I think we finish in the quarterfinal. Call me pessimistic, but without a goaltender as good as Pavelec, I don't think we're going to get very far. :(

I agree with you joey, Nedved doesn't convince me much either, I don't think he'll get the captaincy though........Plekanec maybe.

There's still time left till the WC, let's see how this plays out, it'll be interesting.

Swipes 04-11-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorz (Post 47733977)
- I don't mind Rolinek, but I don't think he's that big loss. I would take him if he was healthy, but I can easily live without him on the team.

Rolinek is excellent on the penalty kill, I think we may end up missing him more than we think.:(

zorz 04-11-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swipes (Post 47734643)
Rolinek is excellent on the penalty kill, I think we may end up missing him more than we think.:(

This tournament will show how important he really is for sure and I'm quite curious about that tbh. And yes, you are pessimistic ;)

joey16 04-11-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorz (Post 47733977)
What do I think? Let's see...

- I'm Stepanek fan, but I agree he won't steal many games. He's not a weakness either, so I have no problem with him in the net.
- I don't mind Rolinek, but I don't think he's that big loss. I would take him if he was healthy, but I can easily live without him on the team.
- Nedved has an elite shot and experience, these to things make him valuable, so I think it's ok if he's going. But he's not very useful without the puck and can dissapear for periods or even games. I think he will be useful against some weaker teams, but in real games he won't be a factor.
- I'm glad Straka isn't going. I think he's not good enough anymore to contribute on this level. I may be wrong, but I'm happy we're not gonna find out.

Well, I meant it more like leading off the ice etc.. Nedved could be very useful on the ice, no doubt. I just don't feel like it's a person other guys would follow.
And I don't agree with you about Straka. I think he'd still be great for our team and not just on the ice. His skating is amazing for his age.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swipes (Post 47734643)
Rolinek is excellent on the penalty kill, I think we may end up missing him more than we think.:(

This.

Erathian 04-12-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey16 (Post 47733209)
Too bad.. two biggest losses we could´ve had - Rolinek and Pavelec. Let´s hope Neuvirth is available after first round NHL Play Off. I guess Stepanek would be OK but not great.

I´m also not sure about Nedved. He is still awesome hockey player but I don´t really like his personality, I just don´t see him leading the team to some success, maybe I´m wrong.
Straka would be much better (I know he said he woudn´t come).

What do you guys think?

I'm not confident in either Stepanek or Kovar. Especially after watching some SKA - Dynamo games.

Nedved can go either way. Still don't know what to think about him.

This will be tough tournament.

goodoldhockeygame 04-12-2012 04:31 AM

is vokoun out of season?

Erathian 04-12-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lassse34 (Post 47806899)
is vokoun out of season?

I don't know, but he told NT coach that he will not come.

zorz 04-14-2012 12:43 PM

Some not very important cuts were made. The notable news is that Vincour is gonna attend the camp.

zorz 04-18-2012 11:01 AM

GDT CZE-SVK! :yo: Plek's captain just as I expected.

zorz 04-18-2012 02:11 PM

what a shot by Pleks to the empty net :handclap: otherwise it was pretty average game, but the new guys were doing well and we keep winning, so it's ok.

oh and nice choreo :sarcasm:

DrunkElkCZ 04-19-2012 03:08 AM

Plekanec was elected as a capitan for the WC. I thought it'll be Novotny but Pleky is a good choice :)

Mirinho 04-19-2012 04:47 AM

any info when will join Hemsky?

and is Smid definitely out of the WCH? ... I know he had some injury

DrunkElkCZ 04-19-2012 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorz (Post 48328511)
what a shot by Pleks to the empty net :handclap: otherwise it was pretty average game, but the new guys were doing well and we keep winning, so it's ok.

oh and nice choreo :sarcasm:

Especially Tlusty. I just knew he's going to be good after this year with Canes. I would be also glad if Hadamczik make one line strictly made out of youngsters. Holik, Vincour, Hertl or someone like them but that will probably won't came true...

However I have some doubts about our defence. With players from NHL we could have a very decent 3 lines but if nobody from NHL came, our defence is pretty weak in my opinion. I personally wish to every czech player a longest possible playoff run in NHL but let's say that Kuba, Klesla, Z. Michalek, Zidlicky, (Kubina?:sarcasm:) or Polak would be a massive improvement for our defence.

zorz 04-19-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkElkCZ (Post 48391549)
Especially Tlusty. I just knew he's going to be good after this year with Canes. I would be also glad if Hadamczik make one line strictly made out of youngsters. Holik, Vincour, Hertl or someone like them but that will probably won't came true...

However I have some doubts about our defence. With players from NHL we could have a very decent 3 lines but if nobody from NHL came, our defence is pretty weak in my opinion. I personally wish to every czech player a longest possible playoff run in NHL but let's say that Kuba, Klesla, Z. Michalek, Zidlicky, (Kubina?:sarcasm:) or Polak would be a massive improvement for our defence.

I hope we get at least Kindl. There is good chance for Zidlicky too.

Mirinho: I think he will join just before EHT.


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