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GermanNuck 04-13-2012 01:31 PM

Roster Talk '12 — Germany
 
Since nobody started it yet my fellow Germans, I thought i'd do it myself then...

Any suggestions? Still hoping that Ehrhoff will be healthy as he said that he would join the team then, while Sulzer declined for personal reasons.

I would love to see Goc and Greiss, Holzer and Müller play, but San Jose might have a good run this year, and I don't know about the Panthers and the Marlies.

Still i'll give it a shot:

Forwards:
Tripp
Gogulla
Hospelt
Olver
Greilinger
Schütz
Reimer
Rankel
Wolf
Flaake
Hager
Mauer
(Goc, Müller)

Defense:
Hördler
Schubert
N. Goc
Braun
Reiss
Lavallee
Fischer (?)
(Holzer, Ehrhoff, Krüger, Seidenberg (very unlikely))

What about our guys in the CHL? Any chance of them making the team?

Maverick41 04-13-2012 02:25 PM

The user sturmthis posted this on the Germany board:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturmthis (Post 47811771)
Christian Ehrhoff won't play for Team Germany in the World Championships due to a knee injury not allowing him to be ready.

Ehrhoff sagt WM-Teilnahme ab

So Ehrhoff is not an option. Holzer and Mueller (definitely) and Krueger (maybe) will be playing in the AHL playoffs, and thus might not join the team at all or at least not for a while.

I doubt that any of the CHL guys are even on the radar. And I don't think that even guys like Kuhnhackl, Rieder or Abeltshauser could really help this team.

sturmthis 04-14-2012 05:16 PM

Here is the total roster used vs Russia and Czech Republic + two additions for Denmark in the Euro Hockey Challenge.


Quote:

Originally Posted by sturmthis (Post 47653623)
Team for the two games against the Denmark

Tor:

Danny aus den Birken (Kölner Haie)
Dennis Endras (IFK Helsinki)
Dimitrij Kotschnew (Atlant Mytischtschi)
Dimitri Pätzold (Hannover Scorpions)

Verteidiger:

Sinan Akdag (Krefeld Pinguine)
Christopher Fischer (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Benedikt Kohl (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Kevin Lavallee (Kölner Haie)
Moritz Müller (Kölner Haie)
Florian Ondruschka (Straubing Tigers)
Felix Petermann (EHC München)
Christoph Schubert (Hamburg Freezers)
Tim Schüle (Nürnberg Ice Tigers)

Stürmer:

Alexander Barta (Malmö Redhawks)
Martin Buchwieser (EHC München)
Jerome Flaake (Kölner Haie)
Sebastian Furchner (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Philip Gogulla (Kölner Haie)
Thomas Greilinger (ERC Ingolstadt)
Kai Hospelt (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Evan Kaufmann (DEG Metro Stars)
Eduard Lewandowski (Atlant Mytischtschi)
Daniel Pietta (Krefeld Pinguine)
Patrick Reimer (DEG Metro Stars)
Felix Schütz (Kölner Haie)
John Tripp (Kölner Haie)
Alexander Weiß (Kölner Haie)

Bolded Players added for games vs. Denmark

(Charlotte Checkers) Justin Krueger - Will join the team after the games vs Denmark

Players on Roster vs Russia not named to this roster

Tobias Wörle
Alexander Oblinger
Thorsten Ankert - Injury
Patrick Hager (Krefeld Pinguine) - Family Reasons

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Extra Info
  • Rob Zepp (Eisbären Berlin) - Left open if he will play after the postseason.
  • Jochen Reimer (EHC München) and Micheal Wolf (Iserlohn Roosters) will not be available for the World Championships due to injury.
  • Alexander Sulzer (Personal), Christian Ehrhoff (Injury), Jochen Hecht (Retired from National Team) won't play
  • NHL Players (Buffalo Sabres) See above, (Florida Panthers) Marco Sturm and Marcel Goc - Playoffs, (Boston Bruins) Dennis Seidenberg - Playoffs, (San Jose Sharks) Thomas Greiss - Eliminated from Playoffs - Waiting for WC Status.
  • AHL Players - (Toronto Marlies) Korbinian Holzer and Marcel Müller - Playoffs, (Charlotte Checkers) Justin Krueger - Will play

sturmthis 04-15-2012 09:05 PM

Well the Charlotte Checkers didn't get into the playoffs, so we will see if Justin Krueger will play for Germany.

sturmthis 04-17-2012 08:12 PM

Hager won't be available due to family reasons.

http://www.eishockey-magazin.de/patr...archives/30928

TheFatOne 04-18-2012 12:03 PM

Barta is a lock?

sturmthis 04-18-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landskronala (Post 48321107)
Barta is a lock?

I would say it is likely. He has been playing on the 1st PP unit during the warmup games + 3rd line center.

GermanNuck 04-20-2012 08:16 AM

So we'll probably ice not a single NA player while other teams maybe bring their best rosters since Vancouver?
Well i'm up to the challenge, and hoping we won't play against relegation.

zecke26 04-20-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanNuck (Post 48449753)
So we'll probably ice not a single NA player while other teams maybe bring their best rosters since Vancouver?
Well i'm up to the challenge, and hoping we won't play against relegation.

krueger will join the team. he qualifies as NA player. :D

sturmthis 04-20-2012 09:46 AM

Michael Wolf won't be playing due to a foot injury and like zecke26 said earlier Krueger will join the team after the games this weekend.

http://www.eishockey-24.de/del/14228...gt-fuer-wm-ab/

Updates on team for games vs Denmark

http://del.cms.nexum.de/index.php?id=1298&no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=10281

sturmthis 04-20-2012 01:28 PM

Updated
Quote:

Originally Posted by sturmthis (Post 47653623)
Team for the two games against the Denmark

Tor:

Dennis Endras (IFK Helsinki)
Dimitrij Kotschnew (Atlant Mytischtschi)
Dimitri Pätzold (Hannover Scorpions)

Verteidiger:

Sinan Akdag (Krefeld Pinguine)
Christopher Fischer (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Benedikt Kohl (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Moritz Müller (Kölner Haie)
Florian Ondruschka (Straubing Tigers)
Felix Petermann (EHC München)
Christoph Schubert (Hamburg Freezers)

Stürmer:

Alexander Barta (Malmö Redhawks)
Martin Buchwieser (EHC München)
Jerome Flaake (Kölner Haie)
Sebastian Furchner (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Philip Gogulla (Kölner Haie)
Thomas Greilinger (ERC Ingolstadt)
Kai Hospelt (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Evan Kaufmann (DEG Metro Stars)
Eduard Lewandowski (Atlant Mytischtschi)
Daniel Pietta (Krefeld Pinguine)
Patrick Reimer (DEG Metro Stars)
Felix Schütz (Kölner Haie)
John Tripp (Kölner Haie)

Bolded Players added for games vs. Denmark

(Charlotte Checkers) Justin Krueger - Will join the team after the games vs Denmark

Players on Roster vs Russia not on this roster

Tobias Wörle
Alexander Oblinger
Thorsten Ankert - Injury
Patrick Hager (Krefeld Pinguine) - Family Reasons
Tim Schüle (Nürnberg Ice Tigers)
Alexander Weiß (Kölner Haie)
Kevin Lavallee (Kölner Haie)
Danny aus den Birken (Kölner Haie) - Injury


GermanNuck 04-21-2012 05:34 AM

Thanks for all the updates btw :)

I think we'll get stuck somewhere in the middle this year, with the new format, we might even get a shot at playing in the "playoffs" after the preliminary round. We have Italy, Norway, Denmark and Latvia in our group, which are difficult to play against, but possible to beat though.

Anything on Greiss? I mean St. Louis leads the series 3-1, and San Jose might get eliminated soon.

sturmthis 04-21-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanNuck (Post 48496769)
Thanks for all the updates btw :)

I think we'll get stuck somewhere in the middle this year, with the new format, we might even get a shot at playing in the "playoffs" after the preliminary round. We have Italy, Norway, Denmark and Latvia in our group, which are difficult to play against, but possible to beat though.

Anything on Greiss? I mean St. Louis leads the series 3-1, and San Jose might get eliminated soon.

No problem for the updates.

Italy and Norway should be no problem, but Denmark should be a goalie battle with Frederik Andersen playing for them again this year.

I have not heard anything about Greiss for a few weeks. The last time he was mentioned in an article it was only to say that they would talk to him and Zepp once they were knocked out of the playoffs. I would think the Sharks wouldn't have a problem with it since he only played in 19 games this season.

sturmthis 04-22-2012 12:56 PM

Update on Greiss

Quote:

Für Thomas Greiss ist die Saison bereits vorbei. Der Ersatztorwart kassierte mit seinen San Jose Sharks bei den St. Louis Blues mit 1:3 die vierte Niederlage. Ob Greiss nun zum deutschen Team für die WM vom 4. bis 20. Mai in Finnland und Schweden stößt, ist noch offen.

"Ich habe diesbezüglich noch keinen Kontakt zu Trainer Jakob Kölliker gehabt, würde mich aber über einen Anruf freuen", so Greiss. Der 26-Jährige hatte zuletzt bei den Winterspielen 2010 in Vancouver im deutschen Tor gestanden und war damals die Nummer eins.
Basically it is still open if he will come over to play for Germany in the WC.

Greiss hasn't had any contact with Head Coach Jakob Kölliker. He would be happy about a phone call from him. He was last in net for the Germans at the Winter Olympics in Vancouver.

http://www.stern.de/sport/sportwelt/...s-1816909.html

GermanNuck 04-22-2012 01:38 PM

We have a lot of good goalies, but Greiss in the net would be awesome, hopefully Kölliker calls him, the games he played this season were great an made me wonder why he didn't see more icetime in SJ.

just dreaming a bit, but what about Seidenberg?;)

sturmthis 04-22-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanNuck (Post 48586725)
We have a lot of good goalies, but Greiss in the net would be awesome, hopefully Kölliker calls him, the games he played this season were great an made me wonder why he didn't see more icetime in SJ.

just dreaming a bit, but what about Seidenberg?;)

It would be great to have Greiss since Germany is always splitting the time for goalies. I think it would look like this with Greiss.

Greiss
Endras
Pätzold/Zepp

If Greiss comes I would rather have a young goalie like Treutle come in as the #3 though.

Seidenberg is a small chance. Boston still has a chance as of now and he has played a ton of games the last two seasons (almost 200) + he knows he is a lock for the Olympics.

croAVSfan* 04-22-2012 05:29 PM

What about Kuhnhackl or Rieder ? If their teams lose in OHL of course...Do they have a chance or are they still few years away?

EDIT: I see that Maverick answered my question few posts above


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sturmthis 04-22-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croAVSfan (Post 48610931)
What about Kuhnhackl or Rieder ? If their teams lose in OHL of course...Do they have a chance or are they still few years away?

EDIT: I see that Maverick answered my question few posts above


...

I agree with Maverick that they are probably not on the radar, but I would at least put Rieder on the roster if his team is eliminated and let him play some minutes against Italy and Norway. He has dominated the OHL playoffs and should get rewarded for it.

Just saw this tweet about the Kitchener game.

Kitchener Rangers ‏ @OHLRangers
Tobias Rieder scores 2 SHG in :39 seconds and the Rangers are up 3-2 at the halfway point. #ourhouse #gorangersgo

sturmthis 04-23-2012 12:41 AM

Updates

Eduard Lewandowski injured his knee and will be out at least a few weeks. Won't play in the WC.

http://www.eishockey-24.de/deb/14373...en-daenemark/?

Greiss will be contacted and has shown interest in playing for Germany at the WC.

http://www.europeonline-magazine.eu/...ng_205277.html

Maverick41 04-23-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sturmthis (Post 48618947)
I agree with Maverick that they are probably not on the radar, but I would at least put Rieder on the roster if his team is eliminated and let him play some minutes against Italy and Norway. He has dominated the OHL playoffs and should get rewarded for it.

Just saw this tweet about the Kitchener game.

Kitchener Rangers ‏ @OHLRangers
Tobias Rieder scores 2 SHG in :39 seconds and the Rangers are up 3-2 at the halfway point. #ourhouse #gorangersgo

I would love to see Rieder on the roster, at least for a friendly, I just have a hard time believing that it will happen.

Would be very interesting though to see how a player who is really strong in the OHL does compared to players from the DEL.

But it would be very atypical for a German team to put someone like him on the roster. And one thing that would worry me is how much Rieder would have left in his tank after this season.

sturmthis 04-23-2012 12:44 PM

Updated
Quote:

Originally Posted by sturmthis (Post 47653623)
Slovakia Cup Roster so far

Tor:

Dennis Endras (IFK Helsinki)
Dimitrij Kotschnew (Atlant Mytischtschi)
Dimitri Pätzold (Hannover Scorpions)

Verteidiger:

Sinan Akdag (Krefeld Pinguine)
Christopher Fischer (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Justin Krueger (Charlotte Checkers)
Kevin Lavallee (Kölner Haie)
Moritz Müller (Kölner Haie)
Florian Ondruschka (Straubing Tigers)
Felix Petermann (EHC München)
Christoph Schubert (Hamburg Freezers)
Tim Schüle (Nürnberg Ice Tigers)

Stürmer:

Alexander Barta (Malmö Redhawks)
Martin Buchwieser (EHC München)
Jerome Flaake (Kölner Haie)
Sebastian Furchner (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Philip Gogulla (Kölner Haie)
Thomas Greilinger (ERC Ingolstadt)
Kai Hospelt (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg)
Evan Kaufmann (DEG Metro Stars)
Frank Mauer (Adler Mannheim)
Daniel Pietta (Krefeld Pinguine)
André Rankel (Eisbären Berlin)
Patrick Reimer (DEG Metro Stars)
Felix Schütz (Kölner Haie)
John Tripp (Kölner Haie)

Bolded Players added for games in Slovakia Cup

Players on Roster during the Euro Hockey Challenge not on this roster

Tobias Wörle - cut
Alexander Oblinger - cut
Thorsten Ankert - injury
Patrick Hager (Krefeld Pinguine) - Family Reasons
Alexander Weiß (Kölner Haie)- cut
Danny aus den Birken (Kölner Haie) - Injury (could be added)
Benedikt Kohl (Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg) - cut
Eduard Lewandowski (Atlant Mytischtschi) - injury

Players who haven't played and won't play in WC
Jochen Reimer (EHC München) - injury
Alexander Sulzer (Buffalo Sabres) - personal
Christian Ehrhoff (Buffalo Sabres) - injury
Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres) - retired from national team
Michael Wolf (Iserlohn Roosters) - injury
Thomas Greiss (San Jose Sharks) - could be recalled due to injury, but not invited for main team.
(Boston Bruins) Dennis Seidenberg -family/rest

Awaiting Response

Players still in NHL/AHL Playoffs
(Toronto Marlies) Korbinian Holzer and Marcel Müller
(Florida Panthers) Marco Sturm and Marcel Goc


Maverick41 04-24-2012 01:45 AM

Holzer and Mueller have advanced to the second round of the OHL Playoffs.
Mueller who had missed the first two games against Rochester played last night.
The way the Marlies are playing I don't think we should expect these guys on the roster for Team Germany.

Arpi3080 04-24-2012 07:50 AM

I'm not a DEL expert so who can we expect from Mannheim and Berlin to be in the roster?

Btw. It would be shame if we didn't see Holzer next year in the NHL.

sturmthis 04-24-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arpi3080 (Post 48728863)
I'm not a DEL expert so who can we expect from Mannheim and Berlin to be in the roster?

Btw. It would be shame if we didn't see Holzer next year in the NHL.

I read 6-8 players from the combined teams are getting looked at. This is just my speculation

Berlin
G - Rob Zepp (Depends on Thomas Greiss)
D - Constantin Braun
D - Frank Hördler
F - Florian Busch
F - Darin Olver
F - André Rankel (Already on team)

Mannheim
D - Nikolai Goc
D - Denis Reul
F - Marcus Kink
F - Frank Mauer
F - Christoph Ullmann

sturmthis 04-24-2012 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 48724671)
Holzer and Mueller have advanced to the second round of the OHL Playoffs.
Mueller who had missed the first two games against Rochester played last night.
The way the Marlies are playing I don't think we should expect these guys on the roster for Team Germany.

I would agree. I don't think it should be expected to get either. The series are now 7 games in the AHL playoffs.

Florida could also move on tonight, which would take any chance of Goc coming for most of the games. I don't think Sturm will come either way.


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