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StalockSuperfan 04-21-2012 09:29 PM

So, shall we begin? Armchair GM thread
 
Alright peeps, the fun begins. How do we fix our team for next year?

ScottyDont 04-21-2012 09:31 PM

Trade for McGinn, Setoguchi, and Ehrhoff :sarcasm:

Lee Van Cleef* 04-21-2012 09:32 PM

Too soon, Executus.

Eighth Fret 04-21-2012 09:32 PM

too soon. can we agree to a two week moratorium on armchair gm threads? gives us a chance to recover, buy a new tv, fix the holes in our walls, etc.

Barrie22 04-21-2012 09:35 PM

Trade both marleau and pavs. Give in to the bluejackets demands and trade pavs for nash, atleast nash would try in the playoffs just for the reason he would finally have the chance to do some damage there.

Trade marleau for a bag of pucks for all I care, just get him off this team. Granted a bag of pucks might be overpayment for the other team so throw in the sharks 2nd round pick to even up the trade a bit.

Broomout 04-21-2012 09:37 PM

Give Edmonton everyone for the 1st and then have Yakupov be our only player

Graveland 04-21-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie22 (Post 48550071)
Trade both marleau and pavs. Give in to the bluejackets demands and trade pavs for nash, atleast nash would try in the playoffs just for the reason he would finally have the chance to do some damage there.

Trade marleau for a bag of pucks for all I care, just get him off this team. Granted a bag of pucks might be overpayment for the other team so throw in the sharks 2nd round pick to even up the trade a bit.

BJ's demands was for Juicy.

Marleau for Roy!

rangerssharks414 04-21-2012 09:38 PM

Early thoughts:

-Buy out Handzus
-Trade Clowe and Murray
-Don't re-sign Mitchell, Moore, Ferriero, Winchester, Galiardi, White, Vandermeer
-Re-sign Winnik, Braun, Wingels, Desjardins and Braun
-Get more speed for the top six
-Get a left-handed offensive defenseman
-Fire Woodcroft and Shaw (give T-Mac another chance with new assistants)

Squeeven 04-21-2012 09:38 PM

To be honest I think out of the top 6 only Clowe should go and Mitchell from the bottom 6. Trade Clowe, Mitchell, a 1st and a prospect for Nash. Maybe throw in Galiardi but I think without Galiardi its a fair trade. Everyone is saying get rid of Marleau, Pavelski and Clowe but I think that some players are just not good against some teams, and thats what happened to our big guns unfortunately. Keep Mclellan but fire Woodcroft and Shaw.

ChubbChubby 04-21-2012 09:38 PM

1. New staff. IMO they played themselves out of a job during the regular season already. At the very least get new assistant coaches, but TMac is still responsible for them. I'm still completely baffled why no defensive coach was brought in after last season when it obvious where the team needed help the most.

2. Trade Murray. His lack of speed is exposed too often and it looks like he even lost a step. I love his toughness and leadership but that just isn't cutting it with the new NHL.

3. Try and shop Clowe. He's been awful all season long and there's really no defending his play. I think he'll have a bounceback season next year (really can't do much worse than this year), but his poor speed and defense is a liability. If the team wants to do a rebuild, try and get a high pick and some prospects. If not, at least try and get a struggling top-6 back who is faster.

4. Shop Niemi if we can replace him within the organization or if a better goalie is in the market. The system is definitely to blame for most of the Sharks' troubles, but they have to play the way they do because Niemi's rebound control and defensive reads are below average.

5. Would love to trade Marleau but he's not going anywhere. He's doing the little things but that's not what he's paid to do, and ultimately I don't see the team winning anything noteworthy with him as a centerpiece. Unfortunately the team is stuck with him, so hopefully he's put in a more secondary role and the other players can step up around him. Hell, maybe a new staff will kick him into gear like we all hope.

6. Shop Boyle with his limited NTC while we can get a return for him. He has maybe one good year left so it's smart to get value for him while he still is worth a lot and before he starts to decline.

7. Sharks desperately need a puck moving left-handed defenseman. Pick one up in free agency or trade some of our defensive prospects/players for one. I'd be willing to move Demers if he gets a decent return, but he'll likely get better so that's not something I would want as a first choice.

Sharks core IMO

Forwards:
Thornton, Couture, Pavelski, Havlat (and I guess Marleau since he's not going anywhere)

Defense:
Vlasic, Burns

Honestly not bad. Aside from Thornton (who is still playing at an elite level) and Marleau (who doesn't really belong here), the average age is still young enough to keep the team competing for a long time.

Nighthock 04-21-2012 09:39 PM

Too soon? I don't think so.

The only people I care to see next year:

Couture - Thornton - Havlat
xxxx - Pavelski - xxxx
xxxx - Desjardins - Wingels
xxxx - xxxx - xxxx

Vlasic - Burns
xxxx - Boyle
xxxx - xxxx

xxxx
xxxx

The rest can GTFO as far as I'm concerned ...

rangerssharks414 04-21-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeeven (Post 48550409)
To be honest I think out of the top 6 only Clowe should go and Mitchell from the bottom 6. Trade Clowe, Mitchell, a 1st and a prospect for Nash. Maybe throw in Galiardi but I think without Galiardi its a fair trade. Everyone is saying get rid of Marleau, Pavelski and Clowe but I think that some players are just not good against some teams, and thats what happened to our big guns unfortunately. Keep Mclellan but fire Woodcroft and Shaw.

Mitchell is a UFA on July 1st. Galiardi is an RFA.

hockeyball 04-21-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerssharks414 (Post 48550393)
Early thoughts:

-Buy out Handzus
-Trade Clowe and Murray
-Don't re-sign Mitchell, Moore, Ferriero, Winchester, Galiardi, White, Vandermeer
-Re-sign Winnik, Braun, Wingels, Desjardins and Braun
-Get more speed for the top six
-Get a left-handed offensive defenseman
-Fire Woodcroft and Shaw (give T-Mac another chance with new assistants)

Galiardi is an RFA, it would be idiotic not to re-sign him.

do0glas 04-21-2012 09:41 PM

Marleau-Thornton-
-couture-havlat
-winnik-pavelski-wingels
Galiardi-desjardins-

Burns-vlasic
Boyle-stuart
Demers-Braun
Murray

This is what I would build on

Nighthock 04-21-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerssharks414 (Post 48550393)
-Fire Woodcroft and Shaw (give T-Mac another chance with new assistants)

NO

what's the point of watching next year if we'll just see the same ****?

Graveland 04-21-2012 09:42 PM

I'm telling you the Sharks should hire this guy

http://lightning.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=626893

Why the **** not, its not like Summer is going to come up and be awesome.

BCShark 04-21-2012 09:43 PM

get rid of gutless patty. good bye to clowe, murray and boyle. todd can leave also

hockeyball 04-21-2012 09:43 PM

In a perfect world, if anyone asked will waive:

I'd still only trade Handzus.

If Marleau is traded, it better be for a #1 draft pick. Anything less than that would be a mistake. We need MORE fast players, not less, and we literally won't be able to replace his talent, no chance.

Boyle I only trade for the right deal. Murray gone, Clowe gone, Pavelski if a fast player is brought in to replace him.

Of course you bid on Parise and Suter, but don't get your hopes up.

OnTheFence 04-21-2012 09:44 PM

I want exciting players on this team. This past season just seemed so boring.

Either bring in some danglers and snipers, or change the system to be a run-and-gun team. Screw the dump and chase, grinding it out mentality.

CommanderShepard15 04-21-2012 09:45 PM

bring in
nash
j.staal
bolland
JVR
asham
b.stuart
vokoun

ship out
clowe
pavs
marleau
murray
niemi

dont care what else we need to ship out to get the needed players i outlined. run lines of

couture-thornton-nash
JVR-Staal-Havlat
Galliardi-Bolland-Winnik
asham-desjardins-wingels

vlasic-burns
stuart-boyle
braun-demers
fa dman, doesnt matter

vokoun
greiss

roll that. the MOST IMPORTANT thing to playoff and regular season success is having 3 lines that have 1 #1 center, and 2 second line centers.

Nighthock 04-21-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFence (Post 48551029)
I want exciting players on this team. This past season just seemed so boring.

Of all the series in this year's PO's, this one has been by far the most boring. Most of it can be credited to Hitchcock ... McLellan too for sucking as usual.

Graveland 04-21-2012 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyball (Post 48550981)
In a perfect world, if anyone asked will waive:

I'd still only trade Handzus.

If Marleau is traded, it better be for a #1 draft pick. Anything less than that would be a mistake. We need MORE fast players, not less, and we literally won't be able to replace his talent, no chance.

Boyle I only trade for the right deal. Murray gone, Clowe gone, Pavelski if a fast player is brought in to replace him.

Of course you bid on Parise and Suter, but don't get your hopes up.

That's the main issue with Marleau which team will want to exchange speedy forwards? I could see Buffalo with Roy but we would be taken to town in the trade if it was straight up.

Broomout 04-21-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oso Blanca (Post 48550901)
I'm telling you the Sharks should hire this guy

http://lightning.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=626893

Why the **** not, its not like Summer is going to come up and be awesome.

Use to live in Virginia, went to a bunch of Admirals games unfortunately they sucked then but, ya they've won what like 25 games in a row now?He probably will get a shot in the NHL next year

ChubbChubby 04-21-2012 09:52 PM

I hope DW doesn't do any knee-jerk moves and makes the team even more top-heavy. Boyle/Marleau/Thornton is enough as it is, and really the only one among them that I wouldn't get rid of is Thornton.

Also new contracts are coming up soon. Burns is on a new contract next year, Couture and Pavelski and due for a raise, and Demers/Braun will be making more than 1.2 million in the near future.

do0glas 04-21-2012 09:56 PM

We need to get younger in the top six, peppered with experience.

Bid for parise, but don't get your hopes up.

Grab Stuart, Boyle at 35 was playing 30 min a game. Limit his minutes. He's still valuable.

Try for
Parise-Thornton-XXX
XXX-marleau-havlat
Winnik-pavelski-XXX
Wingels-desi-XXX

Burns-vlasic
Boyle-Stuart
Demers-Braun
Murray

Try to trade clowe. Figure out the best spot for galiardi/Mitchell

Look into UFA


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