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TheFatOne 04-25-2012 10:18 AM

General Talk '12 — Belarus
 
Team right now http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=1674



Я люблю чэмпіянат свету.

Systemfel 04-25-2012 11:15 AM

That Pavel Chernook is a mountain of a man.

smitty10 04-25-2012 11:18 AM

Not the strongest Belarussian team talent-wise, but there are a few big guys on this team. I expect a great tournament from Grabovski. He'll likely be expected to lead this team.

Robotic 04-26-2012 01:11 PM

Will be waiting to see if Aleksei Kalyuzhny joins the team now that Avangard is done with Gagarin Cup final.

kunabai 04-26-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khlman (Post 48859161)
Will be waiting to see if Aleksei Kalyuzhny joins the team now that Avangard is done with Gagarin Cup final.

it's 100% that he joins the team

heikkila said that aleksei will join the team in finland just before the start of wc
he decided to give him some rest after tough and long post-season with his khl club while belarus national team will be playing in slovakia next two days

kunabai 04-26-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landskronala (Post 48789247)
Team right now http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=1674



Я люблю чэмпіянат свету.

nogachev, musienko, kachan from this list are cut off
those who will be there but have not mentioned - koltsov, ugarov, andrei stepanov - forwards, denisov - d-man, koval - goalie

patsbury 04-27-2012 09:07 AM

Has Raman Hrabarenka been cut from the camp?

kunabai 04-27-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsbury (Post 48919521)
Has Raman Hrabarenka been cut from the camp?

not yet
he even played today against germany in the first pairing with vladimir denisov
heikkila is giving him a chance, but he and others like gotovets, kaznadey, andrei antonov and some young forwards like drozd or pavlovich are on the bubble and those people finally can be cut from the team


by the way, tough loss 2-5 today, and our fans are not-little shocked. our goal at the wc is to get to the quaters which is announced by hockey federation so scepsis is starting to grow around here

kunabai 04-27-2012 10:22 AM

like heikkila said before he tried to go today with ugarov - grabovski (pp goal today) - andrei stepanov as the team's first line which is projected 1st line for the tourney

other lines were

drozd (pp assist) - stas - meleshko (pp assist)
kulakov - kitarov - mikhalev
andrei kolosov (1 goal) - kovyrshin - koltsov (1 assist)

d
graborenko - denisov
korobov - gotovets (1 assist)
chernook - stasenko
kaznadey - antonov

and mezin (27\32) between the pipes

tomorrow against norway there certainly will be some changes

there is possibility that not only kalyuzhny (who will be there 100%) but also artem demkov from elmira jackals of the ECHL joins the team

patsbury 04-27-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunabai (Post 48922255)
not yet
he even played today against germany in the first pairing with vladimir denisov
heikkila is giving him a chance, but he and others like gotovets, kaznadey, andrei antonov and some young forwards like drozd or pavlovich are on the bubble and those people finally can be cut from the team

Thank you very much! :)

Zine 04-28-2012 12:09 AM

Where's Demagin?

kunabai 04-28-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zine (Post 48959197)
Where's Demagin?

he is injured and though he wanted to play he is unable to
big loss for the team for sure, he really can score

kunabai 04-28-2012 10:16 AM

today against norway there were minimum changes

koval in the net
and instead of gotovets and antonov - pair of kostyuchenok-goroshko which is gonna look like this at WC
so it's a 4-0 win
koval got a shutout (25\25)

goals
ugarov (grabovski) - 39.57
kulakov (chernook, andrei kolosov) - 43.11
meleshko - 51.17
stas - 57.34 - en

ozo 04-28-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunabai (Post 48966219)
today against norway there were minimum changes

koval in the net
and instead of gotovets and antonov - pair of kostyuchenok-goroshko which is gonna look like this at WC
so it's a 4-0 win
koval got a shutout (25\25)

goals
ugarov (grabovski) - 39.57
kulakov (chernook, andrei kolosov) - 43.11
meleshko - 51.17
stas - 57.34 - en

Who are the goalies for team Belarus, could you give a depth list of say 5-6 goalies?. Koval is probably number, who are the next in the food chain?

kunabai 04-28-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozo (Post 48968549)
Who are the goalies for team Belarus, could you give a depth list of say 5-6 goalies?. Koval is probably number, who are the next in the food chain?

koval
mezin (though it's not clear whether mezin or koval will be number 1 at wc)

milchakov (going in finland as #3 goalie)

brikun
grishukevich (maybe little too old, it looks like he'll never be given a chance - he is small stature, though he looks good at belarus league level)
malyutin
shabanov (still good at belarus league level, but he is done for nt)

+good youngsters in shelepnyov and borodulya (with shelepnyov being right behind milchakov, i suppose, he had already been invited to the national camp and signed with dinamo)

Rantsi 04-28-2012 03:36 PM

According to Elite Prospects Sergei Kolosov would be in the team but he has not been in the camp. What is his situation? I also wonder why Mikhail Stefanovich is not in the team. He just wasn't selected? Apparently he was in the camp for a period replacing Koltsov who was little hurt.

edit: Or is Sergei Kolosov just messed with Andrei Kolosov at Elite Prospects?

kunabai 04-28-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rantsi (Post 48978613)
According to Elite Prospects Sergei Kolosov would be in the team but he has not been in the camp. What is his situation? I also wonder why Mikhail Stefanovich is not in the team. He just wasn't selected? Apparently he was in the camp for a period replacing Koltsov who was little hurt.

edit: Or is Sergei Kolosov just messed with Andrei Kolosov at Elite Prospects?

Or is Sergei Kolosov just messed with Andrei Kolosov at Elite Prospects? - you are right
it is andrei kolosov from gomel who is in the camp and maybe he will make the final cut and play at wc
sergei kolosov playing decent game in belarus league' for now-powerhouse neman (grodno) and that's it, nothing special. it looks like those years in ahl have hurt him a little, but we'll see. he's good in belarus league, but one time we all hoped that he'll make it as a 5-6 d-man in nhl

stefanovich just not using his potential fully, he's still soft and horrible defensively and not so much progressing offensively. he couldn't show anything at the khl level. he is good for top-6 role in belarusian league, but we have better guys there in national team
but there is still some hope that one day he will live up to our expectations of being him a first line scorer

croAVSfan* 04-28-2012 05:01 PM

Is there open place at roster for Kostitsyn brothers in case that Nashville lose against PHX ?

kunabai 04-28-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croAVSfan (Post 48984871)
Is there open place at roster for Kostitsyn brothers in case that Nashville lose against PHX ?

Quote:

Teams can register up to 25 players (22 skaters and 3 goalkeepers) for the tournament of which 20+2 can be on the game roster. Teams have to register a minimum of 15+2 players on 3rd May and can add players until two hours before each game throughout the tournament until the roster is full.
so, i think there will be additional two spots as always before the elimination round
i think heikkila will start with standard 20+3-set and will see how it goes, maybe kostitsyns maybe someone else would be added

edit: oh, it looks like there are some changes in player registration, this ability to add before each game, i can't remember if this was earlier, though it makes all even more simple
we'll see at 3rd may whether heikkila hopes to see brothers or not :D

Rantsi 04-29-2012 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunabai (Post 48980455)
sergei kolosov playing decent game in belarus league' for now-powerhouse neman (grodno) and that's it, nothing special. it looks like those years in ahl have hurt him a little, but we'll see. he's good in belarus league, but one time we all hoped that he'll make it as a 5-6 d-man in nhl

So Sergei Kolosov won't be in the team this year?

kunabai 04-29-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rantsi (Post 49004167)
So Sergei Kolosov won't be in the team this year?

yes, he won't

Phion Keneuf 04-29-2012 11:48 AM

is Grabo on the team?

kunabai 04-29-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 49010937)
is Grabo on the team?

if you have read this thread you didn't ask that :D:D:D
yes, he is
posted 2 assists in 2 exhibition games playing in the first line
actually, he is supposed to be the leader of the team

BalticWarrior 04-29-2012 12:10 PM

I want ask belarussian fans,what are your expectations in this wc?
Is it possible that maybe,just maybe belarus makes it to QF?

croAVSfan* 04-29-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunabai (Post 49011023)
if you have read this thread you didn't ask that :D:D:D
yes, he is
posted 2 assists in 2 exhibition games playing in the first line
actually, he is supposed to be the leader of the team

I like Grabovski very much as a player but as a person as well. In one of his interview he said that he is never too "tired" to play for his country and that will always join Belarus when it is possible. That is atitude.

And he is almost ppg player at Elite division, in 37 games has 33 points.


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