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illpucks 05-10-2012 09:50 PM

LA Kings are heavy favourites to win cup
 
Los Angeles Kings
2/1


New Jersey Devils
10/3

Phoenix Coyotes
7/2

New York Rangers
4/1

Washington Capitals
13/2

courtesy of bodog

DocWest 05-10-2012 09:52 PM

http://i48.tinypic.com/14ugmpw.jpg

nevermore 05-10-2012 09:55 PM

EDIT: Nevermind me, I looked at odds from Tuesday.
Still, from what I see they're slight favourites. And if the Rangers win Game 7 they won't be favourites at all.

Blue Seat Spartan 05-10-2012 09:59 PM

They're a powerhouse team masquerading as the #8 seed out of the West!

Hitchhiking the bandwagon for the I-10 Series and hoping for a Stanley Cup Final between the two biggest media markets in the US!!! I'll be getting off, but until then... GO KINGS GO!

KINGS17 05-10-2012 10:03 PM

Everyone needs to remember that the odds change based on how much money is being bet on a team. With Las Vegas being so close to Southern California the current odds shouldn't be too shocking.

The odds for Phoenix are just a little over 3:1. How close is Vegas to Arizona? That's why.

amjay13 05-10-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 49562089)
Everyone needs to remember that the odds change based on how much money is being bet on a team. With Las Vegas being so close to Southern California the current odds shouldn't be too shocking.

The odds for Phoenix are just a little over 3:1. How close is Vegas to Arizona? That's why.

lol, no

those odds are from bodog aka an online site

Marns 05-10-2012 10:14 PM

That'll change after Phoenix takes games one and two.

irishlaxburger2 05-10-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amjay13 (Post 49562447)
lol, no

those odds are from bodog aka an online site

And Bodog relies heavily on numbers from Vegas, the betting capital of the world. The good majority of the best linesmakers in the world are based out of Vegas.

That said, I agree with your overall point. I highly doubt LA's proximity to Vegas has much to do with the actual line. Has more so to do with the Kings looking unstoppable through 2 rounds.

Claude28Giroux 05-10-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marns (Post 49562501)
That'll change after Phoenix takes games one and two.

I don' think so. LA has something the preds don't. Offense.

Osprey 05-10-2012 10:15 PM

It looks like the OP is right. Though there are lots of different bookies, nearly all seem to agree on roughly 2:1 odds for the Kings:

http://www.oddschecker.com/ice-hocke...ley-cup/winner

That's a little surprising. I wouldn't have expected that, especially since the Kings started out the playoffs with, I think, 36:1 odds. I guess that one team has to have the better odds, though, and the Kings are as good of a bet as anyone.

As nevermore said, though, we'll see how the Rangers stack up if they manage to beat the Capitals on Saturday. Surely, the fact that they're 1 game away from elimination is impacting their odds at the moment. When the final four teams are determined, though, the odds will be a little more interesting and insightful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 49562089)
Everyone needs to remember that the odds change based on how much money is being bet on a team. With Las Vegas being so close to Southern California the current odds shouldn't be too shocking.

The odds for Phoenix are just a little over 3:1. How close is Vegas to Arizona? That's why.

I'm not sure that that really has much impact. The Devils have the 2nd-best odds and how far is Las Vegas from New Jersey? With the Rangers and Capitals not even guaranteed to make the semi-finals, the top 3 bets were almost sure to be some combination of LA, NJ and PHO, anyways.

KINGS17 05-10-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishlaxburger2 (Post 49562527)
And Bodog relies heavily on numbers from Vegas, the betting capital of the world. The good majority of the best linesmakers in the world are based out of Vegas.

That said, I agree with your overall point. I highly doubt LA's proximity to Vegas has much to do with the actual line. Has more so to do with the Kings looking unstoppable through 2 rounds.

Fair enough. It still has a lot to do with the amount of money that is being laid on a team to win.

bambamcam4ever 05-10-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claude28Giroux (Post 49562537)
I don' think so. LA has something the preds don't. Offense.

You know the Preds finished like 20 spots higher in offense right?

irishlaxburger2 05-10-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 49562591)
It still has a lot to do with the amount of money that is being laid on a team to win.

It has everything to do with that. That's how betting lines are formed. Vegas doesn't try to pick one way or other. They just want equal action on both sides so they can cash in on the vig.

Stephen 05-10-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambamcam4ever (Post 49562703)
You know the Preds finished like 20 spots higher in offense right?

Kings kind of look like they were playing possum for most of the season at this point.

TGOTC 05-10-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claude28Giroux (Post 49562537)
I don' think so. LA has something the preds don't. Offense.

G/F: Los Angeles, 2.29, 29th
Nashville, 2.83, 8th


wut

Marns 05-10-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGOTC (Post 49562859)
G/F: Los Angeles, 2.29, 29th
Nashville, 2.83, 8th


wut

Exactly. No doubt the Kings look like a different team now, but to say the Preds don't have any offense is ignorant.

Boba Fettuccine 05-10-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KINGS17 (Post 49562089)
why.

Chicken thigh

Oil Change 05-10-2012 10:30 PM

Odds don't seem to mean **** this year. Cup favourites have been knocked out in each of the first two rounds. Nothing will surprise me now.

Hoopdreams 05-10-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGOTC (Post 49562859)
G/F: Los Angeles, 2.29, 29th
Nashville, 2.83, 8th


wut

Look at the GF after the trade deadline, and in the playoffs.

TGOTC 05-10-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopdreams (Post 49563017)
Look at the GF after the trade deadline, and in the playoffs.

3.00 GF in March and April, but that doesn't take into account empty netters, which could influence a lot since it was only about a month of games.

LA has 3 empty net goals in so far in the playoffs. Take away those, and their real GF is 2.66, just about the same as the Coyotes who are at 2.64

:: Just checked. LA had 5 empty net goals in March and April. Take those out, and their GF falls to 2.72 after the Trade Deadline.

Plowevelski 05-10-2012 11:07 PM

Kings heavy favorites to win the cup?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...90a8014829.png

haseoke39 05-10-2012 11:13 PM

Okay, but really the story here is that Phoenix's odds are better than New York's. Who'd have predicted that at the start of the playoffs?

Ziggy Stardust 05-10-2012 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haseoke39 (Post 49564227)
Okay, but really the story here is that Phoenix's odds are better than New York's. Who'd have predicted that at the start of the playoffs?

That's probably because they are a game away from either being eliminated or advancing.

SLang 05-10-2012 11:28 PM

Obvious attempt by Ducks fan to jinx the Kings.

Scottkmlps 05-10-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGOTC (Post 49563331)
3.00 GF in March and April, but that doesn't take into account empty netters, which could influence a lot since it was only about a month of games.

LA has 3 empty net goals in so far in the playoffs. Take away those, and their real GF is 2.66, just about the same as the Coyotes who are at 2.64

:: Just checked. LA had 5 empty net goals in March and April. Take those out, and their GF falls to 2.72 after the Trade Deadline.

Hey, there's some straws, may I reach for them? So empty net goals don't count as goals for anymore?


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