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defensehockey19 05-14-2012 06:19 PM

Graduation
 
I wanted to start a thread to see how many kids on each particular teams will be graduating to pro or due to age.. So as a Petes fan.. Ill start with Peterborough.

Age:
F- Joey West
D- Jonathon Jasper

Potential Pro:
F- Matt Puempel
Although very very unlikely, Puempel does have an very slim outside shot at cracking Ottawas lineup.

All of our other NHL draft picks are un-realistic to even debate.

Feel free to post on your team as I'm very interested to see how many kids teams like Niagara and Ottawa and others are losing.

Kingpin794 05-14-2012 07:09 PM

For the Saginaw Spirit:

Age:
F- Josh Shalla
F- Michael Fine
D- Brad Walch

Potential Pro:
F- Brandon Saad
No question he is gone next year. It will do him no good to stay in Saginaw for another season.

D- Brandon Archibald
I'd say he's got about a 60% chance he'll be in the AHL next year.

F- Garrett Ross
Although he hasn't been drafted, he did improve his offensive production almost four fold from the previous season. Add the newly aquired offense to he gritty style of play and I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign with someone in the offseason and play AHL next year.

big papa 05-14-2012 10:17 PM

Windsor Spitfires:

Age: Holden-D, McQueen-F, Cullen-G

Released or Trade: Czinder-F, Posa-D, Braithwaite-D,

i think we have enough Depth on the back end that we only need one OA Defence man and Czinder did improve alot but not enough to stay as an OA

hockeylegend11 05-15-2012 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big papa (Post 49712799)
Windsor Spitfires:

Age: Holden-D, McQueen-F, Cullen-G

Released or Trade: Czinder-F, Posa-D, Braithwaite-D,

i think we have enough Depth on the back end that we only need one OA Defence man and Czinder did improve alot but not enough to stay as an OA

Those 3 sggested for release/trade will not occur until at least Oct and I doubt it

happens to all 3

aresknights 05-15-2012 10:43 AM

London

Age- Cook, Martin

Pro- Tinordi, Watson, McKegg, Namesnitkov

Question marks pro- Harrington, Houser

Long shots for pro- Matta, Griffith

Just MO

Potential NHLPA contract issues may chnage all this. It seems every year there is a player or 3 in the O we wouldnt have guessed makes the jump so well see.

defensehockey19 05-15-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aresknights (Post 49726329)
London

Age- Cook, Martin

Pro- Tinordi, Watson, McKegg, Namesnitkov

Question marks pro- Harrington, Houser

Long shots for pro- Matta, Griffith

Just MO

Potential NHLPA contract issues may chnage all this. It seems every year there is a player or 3 in the O we wouldnt have guessed makes the jump so well see.


I agree and yes an NHL lockout would change all of this but it is fun to atleast debate on how many players teams could potentially lose.

Grant 05-15-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aresknights (Post 49726329)
London

Age- Cook, Martin

Pro- Tinordi, Watson, McKegg, Namesnitkov

Question marks pro- Harrington, Houser

Long shots for pro- Matta, Griffith

Just MO

Potential NHLPA contract issues may chnage all this. It seems every year there is a player or 3 in the O we wouldnt have guessed makes the jump so well see.

All the right players for sure. I think I would put McKegg between pro and question mark pro though, he is a tweener I think. Swap Houser into long shot (although I disagree, that's just what I think it will be) and I would put Maatta in questionable (if he does tryouts as well as he has this playoffs and depending on the team I think he could make it). I agree that we won't be seeing Tinordi, Watson or Namestnikov again on the Knights :(

BigBuck 05-15-2012 12:47 PM

For Kingston:

Age- Bobkov
- Stokes

Keep hearing a number of names that could be moved before the start of the year as they continue to rebuild.

big papa 05-15-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeylegend11 (Post 49721115)
Those 3 sggested for release/trade will not occur until at least Oct and I doubt it

happens to all 3

not to all 3 but to at least one of them

StormSurge9 05-15-2012 01:35 PM

For Guelph

Age - Kyle Peirerra
- Stephen Gaskin
- Brandon Foote

I think that will be it, the only other guys eligible to go pro would be Cody McNaughton and Francis Menard. It's unlikely either of them leaves. Matt Finn could be the only other guy that would get a chance to make an NHL roster, but as a mid-late first round pick it's likely he's back as well.

Tim Wallach 05-15-2012 02:31 PM

For Kitchener:

Age - Catenacci, Sol, Randell

Pro - Crescenzi (50/50 to make Marlies), Rieder (5% chance to make Oilers), Murphy (40% chance to make Canes), Gibson (50/50 as he's AHL eligible), Faksa (10% chance to make NHL)

Those are all my handicapped odds. In my opinion, all of the possibles should return, but I think there's a decent chance we lose at least one or two.

And Spott's only OA option is Crescenzi, so expect trades.

RayzorIsDull 05-15-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeylegend11 (Post 49721115)
Those 3 sggested for release/trade will not occur until at least Oct and I doubt it

happens to all 3

I would be very tempted just to keep Posa. Czinder improved but he's still very soft. Braithwaite I wish they never acquired him because to rationalize the acquisition they will probably keep him around and take ice time away from a young guy.

Torts 05-15-2012 04:54 PM

Majors,

Age:

Jamie Wise (most likely CIS)
David Corrente (most likely CIS)
Brandon Maxwell (should be signed to an amateur tryout or play in ECHL)

Pro:

No one unless Brace gets drafted and sticks in the AHL and or Percy as a hell of a training camp and makes the leafs but i don't see either happening. We should be returning pretty much our entire roster except OA's.

BenchedGuy 05-16-2012 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Wallach (Post 49735271)
For Kitchener:

Age - Catenacci, Sol, Randell

Pro - Crescenzi (50/50 to make Marlies), Rieder (5% chance to make Oilers), Murphy (40% chance to make Canes), Gibson (50/50 as he's AHL eligible), Faksa (10% chance to make NHL)

Those are all my handicapped odds. In my opinion, all of the possibles should return, but I think there's a decent chance we lose at least one or two.

And Spott's only OA option is Crescenzi, so expect trades.

I like your handicapping for the most part. I see Faksa a little higher but not much and Crescenzi being a little less. He did not overly impress this past year but was for the most part consistant.

Ward Cornell 05-16-2012 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchedGuy (Post 49768995)
I like your handicapping for the most part. I see Faksa a little higher but not much and Crescenzi being a little less. He did not overly impress this past year but was for the most part consistant.

Crescenzi turning pro will depend on other OA Leaf picks.......ie: Greg McKegg.
Not sure if the Leafs will want to have too young of a AHL team.

EvenSteven 05-16-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ward Cornell (Post 49773333)
Crescenzi turning pro will depend on other OA Leaf picks.......ie: Greg McKegg.
Not sure if the Leafs will want to have too young of a AHL team.


The only guy I'm worried may not return is Faksa. I mean, one or more of the others have a chance of moving on but in reality:


- Murphy needs defensive work (still prone to turnovers). And, he needs to come back so he can be cut at the WJC camp for a third time.

- Crescenzi is still a step behind in his skating as far as the AHL goes, IMO. Another year of junior where the Leafs will ask him to further improve his skating and offense is likely.

- Unless Gibson is the starter at the NHL or AHL level, there's no reason to have him make the jump to pro to ride the pines. He'll get most of the games next year (40-45) plus another WJC appearance.

- Rieder I'm expecting back because the Oilers already don't have room on their roster for the offensive talent they have now. The Swedes that have been up and down from the minors will get spots on the big club before Rieder.


Faksa, on the other hand, impressed more and more as the season went on and really upped his game in the playoffs. Too bad his linemates lost their mojo in the post season or he'd have even been more productive in the post season. If he goes in the top ten of the draft, anything can happen.

ImaBullsfan 05-16-2012 08:27 PM

Bulls:
Age
Luke Judson (commited Univ)
Jordan Mayer (?)
Adam Payerl (Signed Pitts-AHL)

Possible OA-Pro
Stephen Silas-possible AHL but doubt he will get signed, should be back for OA
Brenden Morris-maybe Univ, wont be back
Jason Shaw- hometown boy-might get a look at OA spot, led the team in plus-minus
Joesph Cramarrosa-drafted by Ducks but has yet to sign, most likely leaning towards coming back for OA season to play with his younger bro

Sounds like many teams are already looking at other overagers thoughout the league to fill spots! Should be many available.

memcup99 05-17-2012 11:52 AM

For Ottawa:
Gone:
Cazzola, Zanetti, Broussard

Likely gone unless there's a work stoppage in NHL:
Toffoli(signed), Prince(unsigned), Cajkowski(unsigned), Smith(signed), McFarland(signed), Mrazek(signed)

Outside chance of graduating
Graovac (unsigned, but his play in the playoffs would have garnered a lot of attention), Ceci (90% he's back but you never know, it'll depend on who drafts him)

dogfan 05-19-2012 01:00 PM

For Niagara:
OA's Gone - Aggozzino/Friesen/Pacan

Going pro - Visentin/F. Hamilton/Kuhnhackl/Oleksiak

OHL or NHL - Strome/Ritchie/D. Hamilton

Drafted but could return as OA - Beukeboom/Shipley

There is real potential to have all three OHL or NHL guys back and they will be used as trade bait as the deadline approaches.

big papa 05-19-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogfan (Post 49893921)
For Niagara:
OA's Gone - Aggozzino/Friesen/Pacan

Going pro - Visentin/F. Hamilton/Kuhnhackl/Oleksiak

OHL or NHL - Strome/Ritchie/D. Hamilton

Drafted but could return as OA - Beukeboom/Shipley

There is real potential to have all three OHL or NHL guys back and they will be used as trade bait as the deadline approaches.

IDK i think sence Kuhnhackl missed time with his Knee Surgery that Pitt might look at sending him back to the OHL instead of wasting a year on his contract in the AHL but this will depend on how he shows up at camp. i think Strome has the best chance to make the NHL while Dallas and Boston like to have there Prospect develop so Hamilton and Ritchie may play the pre season and then get sent back down


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