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DaveG 05-21-2012 02:09 PM

Capology 2012-13
 
figured this was a good time for a new one:

Forwards:
Name2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-172017-182018-192020-212021-222022-232023-242024-25
Eric Staal8,250,0008,250,0008,250,0008,250,000UFA       
Alexander Semin7,000,0007,000,0007,000,0007,000,0007,000,0007,000,000UFA     
Tuomo Ruutu4,750,0004,750,0004,750,0004,750,000UFA       
Jordan Staal4,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,0006,000,000UFA
Chad LaRose1,700,000UFA          
Jiri Tlusty1,600,0001,600,000RFA         
Jeff Skinner1,400,0005,725,0005,725,0005,725,0005,725,0005,725,0005,725,000UFA    
Riley Nash875,000RFA          
Tim Brent750,000UFA          
Kevin Westgarth725,000725,000UFA         
Pat Dwyer625,000900,000900,000UFA        
Drayson Bowman600,000600,000RFA         
Tim Wallace367,677UFA          
Zach Boychuk315,657RFA          
Andreas Nodl221,919RFA          
Jeremy Welsh154,545850,000RFA         
Zac Dalpe151,136RFA          
Chris Terry37,121525,000RFA         
Brett Sutter27,778RFA          

Defensemen:
Name2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
Joni Pitkanen4,500,0004,500,000UFA  
Tim Gleason4,000,0004,000,0004,000,0004,000,000UFA
Joe Corvo2,000,000UFA   
Jamie McBain1,800,0001,800,000RFA  
Justin Faulk840,000840,000RFA  
Jay Harrison700,0001,500,0001,500,0001,500,000UFA
Bobby Sanguinetti700,000RFA   
Marc-Andre Bergeron262,626UFA   
Michal Jordan73,535RFA   
Ryan Murphy63,2241,344,167*1,344,167*1,344,167*RFA
Marc-Andre Gragnani16,162RFA   

Goalies:
Name2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
Cam Ward6,300,0006,300,0006,300,0006,300,000UFA
Dan Ellis800,000UFA   
Justin Peters298,611525,000UFA  

No Longer on Team:
Name2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
Jussi Jokinen2,242,424TBA   
Adam Hall111,616    
Derek Joslin75,000125,000   

Current Cap Hit: 56,835,000
Cap Floor: 54,200,000
Cap Ceiling: 70,200,000

Prospects:
Name2012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
F Victor Rask 894,167*894,167*894,167*RFA
F Brock McGinn 842,500*842,500*842,500*RFA
F AJ Jenks875,000RFA   
F Riley Nash875,000RFA   
F Zac Dalpe875,000RFA   
F Justin Shugg750,000750,000RFA  
F Luke Pither600,000RFA   
F Jerome Samson600,000RFA   
F Jared Staal566,666RFA   
F Brodie Sutter560,000560,000560,000RFA 
F Brett Sutter550,000UFA   
F Chris Terry525,000525,000RFA  
F Nicolas Blanchard525,000525,000RFA  
D Ryan Murphy1,344,1671,344,1671,344,167RFA 
D Marc-Andre Gragnani800,000RFA   
D Bobby Sanguinetti700,000RFA   
D Austin Levi608,333608,333608,333RFA 
D Michal Jordan606,666RFA   
D Justin Krueger600,000RFA   
D Rasmus Rissanen575,000575,000RFA  
D Joe Sova565,000RFA   
D Tommi Kivisto565,000565,000RFA  
D Beau Schmitz541,667541,667541,667RFA 
D Brett Bellemore525,000RFA   
G Justin Peters537,500537,500UFA  
G John Muse535,000RFA   

Unsigned Prospects: (expiring rights only)
F Gregory Hofmann
G Matt Mahalak

unsigned RFAs: (Qualifying Offer Amount)
F Evgenii Dadonov (660,000) - Donbass KHL
F Oskar Osala
G Mike Murphy (632,500) - Spartak KHL

UniverStalinGraduate* 05-21-2012 02:11 PM

Where do you expect the Canes to be in terms of salary spent next season?

DaveG 05-21-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniverStalinGraduate (Post 49961849)
Where do you expect the Canes to be in terms of salary spent next season?

Not sure, there have indications that the new partial ownership group will allow for increased spending to be "green lit". But the question remains as to where the cap will end up when this new CBA is agreed to. If it increases (and there's some speculation that the current way of calculating would have the cap floor around 54 million) the Canes will have to spend to keep up with the floor, if it doesn't the Canes will have more to spend then many other teams. It's worth noting that the Canes always try to spend at least 4-5 million over the floor to have some flexibility come the deadline in either direction. Basically, right now it's good to be us when going after free agents... but it would be even better if we're one of the few that has a ton of money to chuck around (IE: cap stays where it is now under new CBA). We have at least 8-10 million more to spend and not a whole lot to spend it on.

DaveG 06-07-2012 10:32 AM

added Brodie Sutter and Krueger.

something's gotta be up because there's no way we'll have 11 dmen in the various minor league systems.

Chrispy 06-07-2012 10:36 AM

Ryan Murphy is still AHL ineligible, right? So that's "only" 10 for the AHL and ECHL, although Murphy could bump someone to the AHL (Joslin?).

DaveG 06-07-2012 10:46 AM

right forgot that he only has played 3 seasons in juniors so far. but yeah even 10 seems like a bit of a stretch, have to think that one of them (Sangs?) is going to be in the NHL as either the #6 or #7 guy.

Chrispy 06-07-2012 11:07 AM

Sanguinetti makes sense; he would have to pass through waivers to go back to Charlotte. After last season, I think that would be questionable.

But that also assumes Murphy and Dumoulin don't make the team.

Vagrant 06-07-2012 11:48 AM

Dumoulin would have to really beat the doors down to make the club. JR is probably going to want to take the same developmental approach with him as he did with Faulk and Murphy. If he does make the roster, he'll only be there briefly and will then play some time in Charlotte depending upon how quickly he picks it up.

The locks for Charlotte include Krueger, Jordan, Bellemore, and Dumoulin.

I could see Kivisto, Rissanen, Levi, Schmitz and Sova being options for the remaining two spots in Charlotte.

I feel that Sova and Schmitz will almost certainly start in Florida. I don't anticipate Kivisto being anything of note either. Rissanen likely takes a spot in Charlotte by virtue of familiarity if nothing else. I think Levi also commands a place in Charlotte. That would give them six in Charlotte.

The battle between Bobby Sanguinetti and Derek Joslin for who becomes the "veteran defender" for Charlotte to step in for whatever kid is rotated out of the lineup will be decided in camp. Charlotte likely carries eight defenders most of the season due to being able to have different looks at different players. The shuttle between Florida and Charlotte for the defense will be active. I don't think Carolina fears losing either Sanguinetti or Joslin to waivers especially at the start of the season when teams annually shuttle their overage prospects down to the AHL and in what amounts to near collusion, everybody agrees not to poach the veteran prospects for the most part due to the risk reward being so razor thin.

bleedgreen 06-07-2012 02:17 PM

Interesting to see how good second round picks do on their elc's. Dumo, dalpe and rask make some good coin when they play with the big boys.

bleedgreen 06-07-2012 02:23 PM

Murphy isn't going back to juniors, I heard someone say something about how he doesn't have much left to prove there. We have a lot of d to work with, no doubt. I can't see jr allowing more than one youngster to play up with the canes with Faulk taking a top 6 spot. Likely the kids will rotate in and out, and I can't help but think jr picks up a vet for "stability" if Allen and spacek leave.

Vagrant 06-07-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedgreen (Post 50632307)
Murphy isn't going back to juniors, I heard someone say something about how he doesn't have much left to prove there. We have a lot of d to work with, no doubt. I can't see jr allowing more than one youngster to play up with the canes with Faulk taking a top 6 spot. Likely the kids will rotate in and out, and I can't help but think jr picks up a vet for "stability" if Allen and spacek leave.

I believe it was the man himself, JR, making that statement. I tend to agree with him for the most part but the only thing is that the choice that has to be made is CHL or NHL and that is a tough one to make. Especially when our current group tends to already lean towards soft and offensive. I just don't know if at the end of the day we're going to have any better choices than sending him back to the OHL, letting him play a big part in the WJC, and hoping that he can fine tune the rest of his game.

I mean, the possibility of a 9 game stint is certainly there and would probably make sense to have a look-see. I just don't know if the direct leap is the best choice for Murphy. Of course, I was skeptical of Faulk last year at this time too. More than skeptical actually. I wanted him to spend a full year in the A.

Boom Boom Anton 06-07-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vagrant (Post 50626119)
Dumoulin would have to really beat the doors down to make the club. JR is probably going to want to take the same developmental approach with him as he did with Faulk and Murphy. If he does make the roster, he'll only be there briefly and will then play some time in Charlotte depending upon how quickly he picks it up.

I would tend to agree with this. Dumoulin is a bit different in that he was in college for 3 years vs. 1 for Faulk and will be 21 when the season starts vs. 19 for Faulk. He also has a big body that can likely handle the NHL game better than some other young guys as he is 6'3 and 220lbs.

I still think he stays in Charlotte ESPECIALLY if Murphy is on the squad, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if he is on the NHL club before mid season.

Boom Boom Anton 06-07-2012 03:16 PM

Re: Murphy, it really sucks that the rule prevents him from playing in the AHL. I would hate to see him rushed to the NHL and end up being overwhelmed or even worse, hurt. His size concerns me. Even though he is a fantastic skater, it's a lot harder for him to effectively utilize that in the NHL where all the players are bigger, stronger and faster than what he is accustomed to facing. He'll have a much tougher time skating his way out of trouble like he can in the Jrs.

bleedgreen 06-07-2012 03:25 PM

I'm still not sure what we have in Faulk. I think jr said he may keep a kid like Murphy around all season and just have him as the seventh guy in and out of the lineup, going to the wc's and that this may be better for him than juniors. I'm not fully sold.

totalkev 06-16-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedgreen (Post 50635005)
I'm still not sure what we have in Faulk. I think jr said he may keep a kid like Murphy around all season and just have him as the seventh guy in and out of the lineup, going to the wc's and that this may be better for him than juniors. I'm not fully sold.

I'm as big a fan of Murphy as anyone but given the chance to do it again, and knowing what we now know about the Canes defense, do you think we'd have been better off taking Sven Bartschi last year?

DaveG 06-16-2012 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totalkev (Post 50980059)
I'm as big a fan of Murphy as anyone but given the chance to do it again, and knowing what we now know about the Canes defense, do you think we'd have been better off taking Sven Bartschi last year?

IMO no, Murphy was the best available at that slot, and IMO at the time better then all but 5 that went ahead of him (Nuge, Landy, Larsson, Huberdeau, Couturier, Murphy). Hamilton since then has proven to be better, but IMO that's it. We knew we had something good in Faulk, just didn't know how good. Almost every single one of our defensive prospects took a turn for the positive last year. Almost every single one of our forward prospects took a turn for the negative. I don't think anyone could have predicted that. We still made the right call IMO

DaveG 06-29-2012 12:48 PM

+ Staal, Joslin Buyout
- Sutter, Dumoulin

getting ready for a few more ads over the coming week or two.

DaveG 07-13-2012 03:22 PM

added Gragnani and Terry... unsure as to whether or not Gragnani is an RFA after the contract or a UFA

Chrispy 07-13-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG (Post 52513033)
added Gragnani and Terry... unsure as to whether or not Gragnani is an RFA after the contract or a UFA

I think he's an RFA again next year. From reading the trade board, Vancouver played him enough to get him 80 games experience and avoid type VI UFA status. Then when his agent wanted to go to arbitration, they declined to make a qualifying offer.

So Gragnani will be an arbitration eligible RFA next summer.

DaveG 07-20-2012 02:41 PM

added Wallace and Samson to AHL contracts

DaveG 07-24-2012 10:30 AM

added Boychuk and Bowman, only remaining roster RFA is Welsh

DaveG 07-26-2012 03:19 PM

added Harrison extension and Semin

Roboturner913 07-26-2012 04:59 PM

Assuming that the Semin signing means that JR is going all in this season, and there's roughly 14 million in cap space to play with. Not bad, not bad at all.

DaveG 09-11-2012 04:30 PM

bump, added Dwyer and Skinner extensions, Welsh contract

Sutter16 09-16-2012 08:12 PM

Pens fan coming in peace, but the Canes are by far my second favorite team. Came to say I love the Staal trade for both sides and the Semin signing. Staal is a great player and will be missed here in Pittsburgh.And one question: What did you Canes fans think about the potental of Brian Dumoulin? The Pens are loaded with D prospects and we know the least about him, from what I've heard he sounds like the next coming of Brooks Orpik. Go Pens and Canes :yo:


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