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Evgeni Giroux 05-22-2012 01:29 PM

Off-Season Game Plan: Buffalo Sabres
 
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=396554

New Sabres Captain 05-22-2012 01:42 PM

Cullen's only move was re-signing Ennis/Kaleta and adding Jay McClement.

Vanek-Roy-Pominville
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Leino-Hodgson-Gerbe
McCormick-McClement-Kaleta
Ellis, Tropp

Myers-Regehr
Ehrhoff-Leopold
Sekera-Sulzer
Weber

Miller
Enroth

(His pairings are all wrong, but that's an easy matter to fix).

WhoIsJimBob 05-22-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Needs: First line centre, checking centre, top-four defenceman.

What I said the Sabres needed last year: Depth forwards, one top four defenceman, another defenceman.

They added: Ville Leino, Luke Adam, Christian Ehrhoff, Robyn Regehr, Marc-Andre Gragnani.
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...4038173150.jpg

Jame 05-22-2012 02:46 PM

Id love to sign McClement... but if more major changes aren't made to how soft the forward core is especially among the skill players... then I see nothing other then a 1st round exit at best.

Ness 05-23-2012 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 50005173)
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...4038173150.jpg

Ehrhoff AND Regehr. If they sign another top 4 D (Suter :sarcasm:), it will be awfully hard for all those D prospects to make the jump to the NHL, because none of them would out-seat Myers, Ehrhoff, Leo, Regehr, Sekera, or Sulzer. If Buffalo signs another top 4 D, a trade almost HAS to be made, shipping out one of their D prospects.

BackGroundMusic 05-23-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 50005173)
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...4038173150.jpg

Yeah, kind of a disappointing article.

Myllz 05-23-2012 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 50005173)
So last year he said the Sabres need one more top 4 D, they signed Ehrhoff, and they need a top 4 D again this year despite not losing a top 4 D in the past 12 months.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...4038173150.jpg

He didn't specify how many they needed last year, just said we need top 4 defenseman. Now he's saying we still need one more.

Sabresfansince1980 05-23-2012 09:50 AM

I don't think Regehr panned out as a top four d-man. He's looking like a slightly better version of Rivet, without also badly injuring his shoulder right after becoming a Sabre.

Besides needing a center (or two), I'm also not real avid about the RW position either. Pominville is good, Stafford is the definition of inconsistent, and then it's Tropp and Kaleta (who can't play a full season anyway). Vanek, Foligno, Leino, and Gerbe could be alright at LW, but RW isn't very strong anymore (not that really ever was).

WhoIsJimBob 05-23-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myllz (Post 50039421)
He didn't specify how many they needed last year, just said we need top 4 defenseman. Now he's saying we still need one more.

Quote:

What I said the Sabres needed last year: Depth forwards, one top four defenceman, another defenceman.
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......

Myllz 05-23-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 50040011)
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......

Oops, read it wrong. I thought the second line was what he was saying they need now.

Sabretip 05-23-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords (Post 50003565)
Cullen's only move was re-signing Ennis/Kaleta and adding Jay McClement.

Vanek-Roy-Pominville
Foligno-Ennis-Stafford
Leino-Hodgson-Gerbe
McCormick-McClement-Kaleta
Ellis, Tropp

Myers-Regehr
Ehrhoff-Leopold
Sekera-Sulzer
Weber

Miller
Enroth

He apparently thinks either that the roster is fine as is as long as it stays healthy or that the Sabres will stand pat and won't make any required changes.
:shakehead

Quote:

Originally Posted by iciclesonapapershelf (Post 50035951)
Yeah, kind of a disappointing article.

I can't think of too many pieces (including those weekly power rankings) written by Cullen that weren't.

heartsabres* 05-23-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob (Post 50040011)
I think he did.

Now if he thinks that Ehrhoff isn't a top 4 D......

So what your saying is, he has come to the conclusion that The Buffalo Sabres missed the playoffs and now can use another top 4 defenceman is wrong?

So what your saying is this team didn't make the play-offs this year and we dont need a top four defenceman?

To be honest I dont even know what your complaint is. I agree we could use another top 4 defenceman

Dubi Doo 05-23-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartsabres (Post 50058273)
So what your saying is, he has come to the conclusion that The Buffalo Sabres missed the playoffs and now can use another top 4 defenceman is wrong?

So what your saying is this team didn't make the play-offs this year and we dont need a top four defenceman?

To be honest I dont even know what your complaint is. I agree we could use another top 4 defenceman

The sabres 'D' was dominant when healthy. It's no coincidence that Miller played lights out when the defense was healthy. The defense is the least of my concerns. Our top 6 on the other hand...

Play4Miracles* 05-23-2012 06:31 PM

I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?

Dubi Doo 05-23-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 50060933)
I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?

Sounds like gaustad 2.0

littletonhockeycoach 05-23-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 50060933)
I did not know who McClement was, so I looked up his nhl.com profile, and I think he's a PK specialist who is good at draws and willing to sacrifice the body. Any objections?

I've watched him regularly via his play with the Avalanche. I see him as a plug and play 3rd line utility Center. Yes to the PK which was pretty good for the Avs this season but Landeskog has something to do with that.

Jay is pretty much as you describe with very little in the way of hands and finishing skills to his game. Gaustad w/o the size or the fight in him. He does play a physical fore checking game but is usually late to the play as a F1 forward. Could be a lack of speed or could be the system Sacco plays here.

He's never excited me much but a lot of people on this board seem to like him. It's probably not comparable (he may not be even available since I'm too lazy to look up the data) but I'd rather have Hanzal.

struckbyaparkedcar 05-23-2012 06:49 PM

McClement is much better defensively (he was St Louis' checking center before Backes blew up), but is worse at the dot and doesn't have the physical facets to the game Goose has.

I think I'd rather have Greg Campbell or Jim Slater because of their respective physical games, but I like McClement as well.

LGB24 05-23-2012 08:56 PM

Yeah Im hoping for Jim Slater over McClement was well if were to obtain a #3/4 C.

Play4Miracles* 05-23-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littletonhockeycoach (Post 50061607)
I've watched him regularly via his play with the Avalanche. I see him as a plug and play 3rd line utility Center. Yes to the PK which was pretty good for the Avs this season but Landeskog has something to do with that.

Jay is pretty much as you describe with very little in the way of hands and finishing skills to his game. Gaustad w/o the size or the fight in him. He does play a physical fore checking game but is usually late to the play as a F1 forward. Could be a lack of speed or could be the system Sacco plays here.

He's never excited me much but a lot of people on this board seem to like him. It's probably not comparable (he may not be even available since I'm too lazy to look up the data) but I'd rather have Hanzal.

Who's that? I never heard of him either. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol

Luceni 05-23-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 50072201)
Who's that? I never heard of him either. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol

Have you never heard about that "Stall" guy? Should be pretty good too..... :sarcasm:

littletonhockeycoach 05-23-2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 50072201)
Who's that? I never heard of him either. :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

Oh wait, is he the guy I keep saying the Sabres need to get like every day? lol

Yeah, either you or Jame clued me into taking a closer look at him this past season... around the time Sabres played Phoenix - who I said at the time was a pretty good team. Anyways, he's impressed me since I started watching him and he's been a force during the playoff run. So thanks for the tip!:nod:

And yes, that "Stall" (Staal) guy is pretty good too but I don't think he's reachable and all the discussion about a 3rd line center (admittedly on the Pens) wanting 1st line minutes leaves me a little skeptical.

I guess this is the wrong thread for this discussion so the moderators can shoot me now.........:laugh:

heartsabres* 05-24-2012 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubi Doo (Post 50060637)
The sabres 'D' was dominant when healthy. It's no coincidence that Miller played lights out when the defense was healthy. The defense is the least of my concerns. Our top 6 on the other hand...


Myers
Ehrhoff Sulzer
Sekera Regher
Weber, Leopold, McNabb

Your happy with that? That didnt even get us to the playoffs. Who is out number 2 with Myers?

Blitz 05-24-2012 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartsabres (Post 50086835)
Myers
Ehrhoff Sulzer
Sekera Regher
Weber, Leopold, McNabb

Your happy with that? That didnt even get us to the playoffs. Who is out number 2 with Myers?

Keeping in mind everyone of those guys except Leopold missed significant time - and we didn't get Alex until the deadline... Injury time is the only way the d-men can be blamed for missing the playoffs - certainly not for the quality of players (exception Weber & Grags)

The only change I would make is to maybe deal Leopold for a pick(s) for the cap space - no other reason than $$$...

Myers-Sekera
Ehrhoff-Sulzer
Regehr-McNabb
X. Brennan, Weber, Finley, Pysyk, JGL

That is one of the better defense corps in the league hands down.

TCRF 05-24-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 50087859)
Keeping in mind everyone of those guys except Leopold missed significant time - and we didn't get Alex until the deadline... Injury time is the only way the d-men can be blamed for missing the playoffs - certainly not for the quality of players (exception Weber & Grags)

The only change I would make is to maybe deal Leopold for a pick(s) for the cap space - no other reason than $$$...

Myers-Sekera
Ehrhoff-Sulzer
Regehr-McNabb
X. Brennan, Weber, Finley, Pysyk, JGL

That is one of the better defense corps in the league hands down.

I liked Myers Ehrhoff when that was going. They all were hurt superbly bad though. Was Sekera paired with myers ever? Individually it looked like this year sekera was the best dman. He wasnt injured as mich

Jame 05-24-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatCrazyRangerFan (Post 50088277)
I liked Myers Ehrhoff when that was going. They all were hurt superbly bad though. Was Sekera paired with myers ever? Individually it looked like this year sekera was the best dman. He wasnt injured as mich

he was... by a mile


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