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AZCOYOT 06-06-2012 03:18 PM

IF we get new uniforms - What would you like them to look like?
 
I love our current logo but our uniforms have been very dull to me.. I definitely think we need to add some black and sand accents plus I love the old logo, and know this logo was used on a few Zephyr hats in the past.

I would buy this!

http://i.imgur.com/Bm0qM.png or http://i.imgur.com/JTJwX.png

Naych_PHX 06-06-2012 04:08 PM

I've said it before, I don't want new uniforms and especially not a new logo. Not because I think we have the best logo ever, but because we need it to have recognition. I know a lot of people are desperately bored on our bland design, but having another makeover is the last thing this team needs. I'm finally going around and when I have a Coyotes shirt on, or something with the logo.. random people are making mention of it. THAT is what we need, brand recognition, and some people here wanna mess with that just for purely aesthetic reasons.

Naurutger 06-06-2012 04:11 PM

I am not a fan of the 3rd jersey so I wouldn't mind that one getting an upgrade. Other than taking the PHX out of the Arizona patch, I am not sure we will see a major upgrade this year. Cant wait to buy an Arizona Coyotes t-shirt though.

PhoPhan 06-06-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Naych_PHX (Post 50589787)
I've said it before, I don't want new uniforms and especially not a new logo. Not because I think we have the best logo ever, but because we need it to have recognition. I know a lot of people are desperately bored on our bland design, but having another makeover is the last thing this team needs. I'm finally going around and when I have a Coyotes shirt on, or something with the logo.. random people are making mention of it. THAT is what we need, brand recognition, and some people here wanna mess with that just for purely aesthetic reasons.

I'm fine with the current color scheme but the logo is dreck. Worst in the league. How would a makeover hurt, exactly?

If we're looking long term, branding is one element of marketing, and I'd argue it's the most important. The logo is a big part of that. Starting from scratch re: recognition might be a setback, but it'll be offset in the long run, and probably pretty quickly. Win a playoff round or two in new uniforms and toss up a few billboards with the logo on it, and all of a sudden anybody who might care will know what's what. There are lots of things more important than "tradition" or recognition of whatever.

gulfcoastdawg 06-06-2012 04:49 PM

Old logo as 3rd jersey
 
Always thought the old kachina style log was pretty cool. Why not bring it back? Why exactly did we dump it?

PhoPhan 06-06-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulfcoastdawg (Post 50591577)
Always thought the old kachina style log was pretty cool. Why not bring it back? Why exactly did we dump it?

I loved it and always will, but it was polarizing to say the least.

rt 06-06-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoPhan (Post 50591621)
I loved it and always will, but it was polarizing to say the least.

I want a happy medium. Something somewhat southwestern but in a subtle way, not a club you over the head with a cactus kind of way, like the original kachina peyote nightmare, but not so sterile and generic as the current dentist office, vanilla kit.

I like that the original logo had a little face paint and a couple of feathers. I like the new set because it's simple. Can't we have something that's not busy but not plain? Something that hints at the southwest without looking like cheeseball tourist trash?

triplej 06-06-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gulfcoastdawg (Post 50591577)
Always thought the old kachina style log was pretty cool. Why not bring it back? Why exactly did we dump it?

I believe new arena= new unis. I like the old ones too and feel like the new one is a "red wing" wanna be color scheme. The players, however, hated the collars on the old ones b/c it rubbed their necks, or so I am told.

PhoPhan 06-06-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 50592469)
I want a happy medium. Something somewhat southwestern but in a subtle way, not a club you over the head with a cactus kind of way, like the original kachina peyote nightmare, but not so sterile and generic as the current dentist office, vanilla kit.

I like that the original logo had a little face paint and a couple of feathers. I like the new set because it's simple. Can't we have something that's not busy but not plain? Something that hints at the southwest without looking like cheeseball tourist trash?

What I liked about the old one was just how far beyond the touristy Kachina stuff I thought it went. It was extreme, but not in the cheesy way you'd expect a mid-'90s "extreme" logo to be. It was jarring and abrasive, which is what you want your hockey team to be.

But I realize not everyone likes things so jarring and abrasive. I also listen to Metal Machine Music regularly, unironically, and while completely sober. So I'm willing to concede I'm in the minority. But I do think a logo for a hockey team called the Coyotes needs some, well, teeth.

rt 06-06-2012 05:26 PM

I like the color scheme and I do not support purple, at all. My main issue is that we try to be two tone,but actually have four colors. Brick, Sand, Black and White, yet we only try to use Brick and White in the uniforms. It looks unfinished. Also, the lettering is pretty generic. I think the letters and numbers would be a quick and easy way to cleanly tip the hat at the southwest without going over the top.

Imagine the Color scheme from the top set, with the numbers from the bottom set, and lets think of a logo that's not so cartoony and awful as the bottom one, but still shows a little more southwest flair than the one we have now that could just as easily be the Kansas Coyotes or the Kitchener Coyotes.

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 49409483)
Mitch, I'd be shocked if it were all that different. I'd guess we stay with Brick, Sand, Black, and White. I figure they'll change the amounts of each and the placement in the jersey and logo. I figure the logo will be mostly the same, but maybe add just a touch of generic, cliche, southwestern or Native American flavor.

Like some combo of...http://www.icethetics.info/storage/c...=1334466262994

and

http://www.icethetics.info/storage/c...coyotesly2.jpg

but not totally awful. Similar color scheme, with a touch of Kachina, but not nearly as over the top as the originals. Sort of a happy medium between the uber bland we have now and the psycodelic peyote trip of the 1990s.

As far as logos go, maybe something at least inspired by Hopi artwork of Coyotes...

http://www.turquoisevillage.com/bmz_...ge.135x220.jpg

http://www.redmountaintrading.com/mm...1/MNBO-03a.jpg

http://www.redmountaintrading.com/mm...PD175-003t.jpg

http://www.turquoisevillage.com/bmz_...e.141x220.jpeg

http://rlv.zcache.com/red_jasper_coy...5bfx3i_325.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!C!0-W1!!mk~...EKZ8g~~_35.JPG

http://coyotepapers.sbs.arizona.edu/coyote.jpg

AZCOYOT 06-06-2012 05:37 PM

Hot damn! I'd love these!

http://www.icethetics.info/storage/c...=1334466262994

rt 06-06-2012 05:39 PM

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Please pretend I didn't butcher these perfectly good mock ups and imagine the uniforms are the exact same, except the numbers and letters look like the ones I pasted in and pretend the logo actually looks clean and is the correct size.

I think they'd be great like these. Unique but not over the top.

Naurutger 06-06-2012 05:42 PM

I like a lot of the uniforms being posted here.

Colt45Blast 06-06-2012 05:50 PM

I have given my feelings about uniforms of any kind in any time frame in the past. I'll wait until the team is going to get a new uniform change to give my thoughts. In the meantime the uniforms we have are fine for now. :deadhorse

goyotes 06-06-2012 05:55 PM

I would like to see the third change. Keep it black. Put on the bias the word "Arizona" ala the NYR's sweaters, or Colorado's third. But heck, I'm very traditional.

Guest 06-06-2012 06:04 PM

Count me in on those Black, Red, Sand jerseys they look really nice. I'm not sure we go back to the old Kachina head logo but the rest of it I really like. If anything, keep/use the moon logo as I've always liked that.

Magnifique 06-06-2012 07:41 PM

After looking at some of the pictures in RT's post, I don't get how we ended up with such lame jerseys. There is a lot to work with out there. Our jerseys could be badass if they spent some time working on them.

PhoPhan 06-06-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotes Persevere (Post 50597847)
After looking at some of the pictures in RT's post, I don't get how we ended up with such lame jerseys. There is a lot to work with out there. Our jerseys could be badass if they spent some time working on them.

Short answer is Gretzky is bad at more than just coaching.

RemoAZ 06-06-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotes Persevere (Post 50597847)
After looking at some of the pictures in RT's post, I don't get how we ended up with such lame jerseys. There is a lot to work with out there. Our jerseys could be badass if they spent some time working on them.

And we have Todd McFarlane, whose store is in Westgate, that could could help with design. The fact is we went from jerseys that were probably too far over the top to as bland as possible. Time to spice it up!

Rabbit 06-06-2012 10:26 PM

I'm sorry but i am a huge fan of our current jerseys. I think the more simple the better.

0point1 06-06-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbit3119 (Post 50606715)
I'm sorry but i am a huge fan of our current jerseys. I think the more simple the better.

I love the current logo and I don't want to see it change. :coyotes

But I would definitely like to see a new 3rd jersey.

Llewzaher 06-06-2012 10:57 PM

I actually like this

http://www.icethetics.info/storage/c...coyotesly2.jpg

theoriginal55 06-06-2012 11:10 PM

ditto the idea of Todd McFarlane designing new uniforms for the Yotes. I remember the logo he made for the Cardinals that was really bold. I would love to see a picture of this rejected Cardinals logo if anyone can find it.

theoriginal55 06-06-2012 11:21 PM

I actually found one. http://www.footblog.com/arizona-card...ete-009641.php (see his logo halfway down the article) Also leads to articles that said Mcfarlane would be designing uniforms for the Coyotes in 2003!

Llewzaher 06-07-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by theoriginal55 (Post 50611793)
I actually found one. http://www.footblog.com/arizona-card...ete-009641.php (see his logo halfway down the article) Also leads to articles that said Mcfarlane would be designing uniforms for the Coyotes in 2003!

so I am guessing he never designed the logo ? What year did we change from the old uniforms , 2006 ?


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