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Harley83 06-09-2012 02:36 PM

Possible candidates for Mellanby's vacant position.
 
Who do you think will step in for Mellanby's position as assistant coach? I could see Davis Payne being a good candidate with his success in Peoria in the past and with his stint as the Blues head coach.

I feel if he could adapt to Hitch's style of hockey it would be an easy transition to head coach when Hitch retires.

bleedblue1223 06-09-2012 03:42 PM

Seriously, seriously doubt that you see Davis Payne behind the Blues bench. Would be way to awkward.

Randall Ritchey 06-09-2012 03:58 PM

I think Tom Renney could be a possible candidate. He, like Hitch, focus' on the defensive part of the game. Could be a decent option.

We also have to remember that both Shaw and Bennet's contracts are up this year, if my memory serves me correctly. We could see a few new bench bosses this year.

bleedblue1223 06-09-2012 04:06 PM

Yep, more than likely we will see 3 new faces behind the bench. Hopefully Hitch finds a guy to run the powerplay, we really need an offensive mind to balance everything out.

Harley83 06-09-2012 04:19 PM

I don't think it would be too awkward to have Payne behind the bench again. He had good chemistry with the players, I just think his biggest downfall was making the transition mid-season from minor league coach right into the pro-level.

Under Hitch's tutelage I think he has lot of potential. He is still with the organization and says he wants to coach again and wants to see the team do well. I could see him being a head coach over Shaw. Shaw is a good person to have at the individual level but I don't know if he is vocal enough to take on head coaching responsibilities.

Renney didn't do too well in Edmonton and is only three years younger than Hitch. I would like to see a younger coach that can grow with the team as opposed to a couple year stint then retirement. But like said Renney does run a defensive style that could blend with Hitch's.

It'll be interesting to see who fills Mellanby's spot.

bleedblue1223 06-09-2012 04:24 PM

That would be like hiring the past manager to be an hourly employee. He has to work under the person who took his job, and the players that he once had full control over, he no longer has that same control. It just won't happen.

It's nothing against Payne, it's just the way it works. He had his chance here and it didn't work out.

h22prelude93 06-09-2012 05:17 PM

Mellanby's main duties were working with the forwards and on the powerplay...so whoever replaces him will obviously have to be someone who fits that description. Edmonton had a 20% PP this season...perhaps Renney was a big part of that. :dunno:

Linus 06-09-2012 05:32 PM

I would rather not see Payne behind the bench again in St. Louis. I'm sure he will make a fine coach in the NHL some day, but it's clear that he needs experience and I'd rather him get that elsewhere.

I would be open to bringing Renney in as an assistant coach. I wonder if he'd want to be an assistant. Jeff Marek of Sportsnet has always been complimentary of Renney and has said several times that he works well with young players. Not that I put any thought into the comments about how Hitch hates young players, but maybe a "players' coach" as an assistant would give a good balance (if Renney even is one, I'm just going off of hearsay). Mellanby worked with younger players, like Berglund. If his replacement could be someone who works well with younger guys, that'd be great.

2 Minute Minor 06-09-2012 06:07 PM

The idea of Payne returning as an assistant coach to the team where he was previously a head coach is ridiculous to me. Its great that the Blues are treating him well, finding a place for him in the organization, and letting him continue his hockey career while waiting for the right coaching position to become available....that's great. That's classy. But putting him behind the bench seems like a bizarre move from the players' perspective.

Harley83 06-09-2012 06:35 PM

I don't think it's that bizarre it's just a matter of checking your ego at the door. I highly doubt he would turn down a shot at being taken under Hitch's wing in hopes of being turned back into head coach considering the years he already has within the Blues organization and knowing the players strengths and weaknesses. At age 40 he was considered very young by pro standards. Guy Boucher is age 40 but time will tell if he will continue to coach in Tampa Bay if their record doesn't improve.

Another possibility that could work out well from a past affiliate of the Blues organization is Doug Weight especially with the rumors of the New York Islanders organization facing financial ruin. The Blues have a track record of hiring people that have had previous experience within the organization and I'm sure that will apply when filling Mellanby's position.

bleedblue1223 06-09-2012 06:40 PM

If Weight does leave New York, he could be an interesting possibility. Don't know much about his situation and if he wants to move. My gut says he could help the powerplay and the playmaking abilities of some of our players.

BlueSinceBirth 06-09-2012 10:39 PM

Didn't Weight kind of leave on bad terms? If I remember right didn't the Blues kind of force him to waive his NTC and he wasn't all that happy about it?

bleedblue1223 06-09-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSinceBirth (Post 50716971)
Didn't Weight kind of leave on bad terms? If I remember right didn't the Blues kind of force him to waive his NTC and he wasn't all that happy about it?

I forgot, maybe it wouldn't work, especially after that interior design fiasco lol.

I expect Hitch to hire his guys anyway.

kimzey59 06-10-2012 06:35 AM

Three names I keep going back to are Tom Renney, Guy Carbonneau and Doug Jarvis(not sure of his contract status with Boston).

All three have history with Hitch and all three focus on working with Forwards and Special teams units.

Prussian_Blue 06-10-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kimzey59 (Post 50723867)
Three names I keep going back to are Tom Renney, Guy Carbonneau and Doug Jarvis(not sure of his contract status with Boston).

All three have history with Hitch and all three focus on working with Forwards and Special teams units.

Any of those guys would be fine as far as I'm concerned...

ChicagoBlues 06-10-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 50699823)
Seriously, seriously doubt that you see Davis Payne behind the Blues bench. Would be way to awkward.

The Devils' current situation is kind of awkward. Larry Robinson is the assistant to DeBoer. And of course that LR won a Cup with the NJ Devils not too long ago. Please don't misread this post as advocating for Payne. Payne should move on.

I think his current contract is expired or expiring soon. Didn't they keep him because he was under contract, so they used him somehow? I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong.

2 Minute Minor 06-11-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoBlues (Post 50732147)
The Devils' current situation is kind of awkward. Larry Robinson is the assistant to DeBoer. And of course that LR won a Cup with the NJ Devils not too long ago. Please don't misread this post as advocating for Payne. Payne should move on.

I think his current contract is expired or expiring soon. Didn't they keep him because he was under contract, so they used him somehow? I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong.

I may have read the situation wrong, but I think the Blues just did it as a classy move. They re-assigned him within the organization rather than firing him. That way they continued to honor his contract and allow his career to continue in some capacity. A young guy with a family who has gone through the ECHL and on with the organization, and wasn't exactly doing a horrible job as a coach...I think they threw him a bone.

Perhaps I'm understanding this incorrectly, but that's what I thought happened. They COULD have just fired him.

ChicagoBlues 06-11-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Minute Minor (Post 50760019)
I may have read the situation wrong, but I think the Blues just did it as a classy move. They re-assigned him within the organization rather than firing him. That way they continued to honor his contract and allow his career to continue in some capacity. A young guy with a family who has gone through the ECHL and on with the organization, and wasn't exactly doing a horrible job as a coach...I think they threw him a bone.

Perhaps I'm understanding this incorrectly, but that's what I thought happened. They COULD have just fired him.

I think you are accurately reading the situation.

The Note 06-11-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kimzey59 (Post 50723867)
Three names I keep going back to are Tom Renney, Guy Carbonneau and Doug Jarvis(not sure of his contract status with Boston).

All three have history with Hitch and all three focus on working with Forwards and Special teams units.

Personally I'd like to see Guy Carbonneau come and be a part of the coaching staff.

Harley83 06-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Note (Post 50774477)
Personally I'd like to see Guy Carbonneau come and be a part of the coaching staff.

Guy Carbonneau would be great to have but I feel he is probably more interested in having a head job right off the bat rather than doing the whole assistant thing again.

He could be waiting for the Nordiques to form again to give the middle finger to Montreal.

CREW99AW 06-13-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley83 (Post 50704825)
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Another possibility that could work out well from a past affiliate of the Blues organization is Doug Weight especially with the rumors of the New York Islanders organization facing financial ruin. The Blues have a track record of hiring people that have had previous experience within the organization and I'm sure that will apply when filling Mellanby's position.

Wow.Overdramtize much:sarcasm:

The isles have an awful lease that runs 3 more seasons.
Forbes says they lost $4.5m last season.

Their owner won't spend much higher the the cap floor, with no progress on a new arena.

In 2015,Wang will ..
1.Have a new arena from Nassau County
2.Move the team to Brooklyn
3.Sell to a local buyer
4.Sell to an out of state buyer

SirPaste 06-15-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 50893579)
Wow.Overdramtize much:sarcasm:

The isles have an awful lease that runs 3 more seasons.
Forbes says they lost $4.5m last season.

Their owner won't spend much higher the the cap floor, with no progress on a new arena.

In 2015,Wang will ..
1.Have a new arena from Nassau County
2.Move the team to Brooklyn
3.Sell to a local buyer
4.Sell to an out of state buyer

Cool story bro

SirPaste 06-15-2012 01:46 PM

Looks like Gary Agnew will replace Mellanby, former assistant to Hitch in Columbus and most recently head coach of the Oshawa Generals in the OHL

sdaltons 06-15-2012 02:06 PM

and Brad Shaw has been promoted to Associate Coach

Harley83 06-15-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CREW99AW (Post 50893579)
Wow.Overdramtize much:sarcasm:

The isles have an awful lease that runs 3 more seasons.
Forbes says they lost $4.5m last season.

Their owner won't spend much higher the the cap floor, with no progress on a new arena.

In 2015,Wang will ..
1.Have a new arena from Nassau County
2.Move the team to Brooklyn
3.Sell to a local buyer
4.Sell to an out of state buyer

I know that Quebec City is in the race to get a team and I really hope they get it. I think it would be cool to have the MTL vs QUE rivalry renewed. I have heard a lot of people say that Wang is the problem with the Isles along with the old arena. It's tough to say who will move first the Yotes or the Isles but I honestly would rather see it go to a Canadian team rather than another American one. If it was up to Bettman he would try to put a NHL team in Wyoming.


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