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Eberle2Hall2Net* 06-10-2012 03:13 PM

Sj/edm
 
EDM Gets: MARC-EDOUARD VLASIC

SJ Gets: MPS + 32nd Overall pick

close? maybe? no ? :help:

sjshark91 06-10-2012 03:14 PM

Sure, might want to get his knee replaced tho.

Eberle2Hall2Net* 06-10-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sjshark91 (Post 50735143)
Sure, might want to get his knee replaced tho.

what if it was a swap mps for vlasic and a conditional 2nd if he re signs with us ? he only has 1 Year left on his contract .

Arrch 06-10-2012 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50735229)
what if it was a swap mps for vlasic and a conditional 2nd if he re signs with us ? he only has 1 Year left on his contract .

You're severely undervaluing Vlasic.

Eberle2Hall2Net* 06-10-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrch (Post 50735363)
You're severely undervaluing Vlasic.

he could easily walk in 1 year.

Arrch 06-10-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50735465)
he could easily walk in 1 year.

Same with Burns, but look what we gave up for him...

And why would we sell him for scraps because he "could walk in 1 year" when we can just keep him and re-sign him? He's one of our best defenseman.

Eberle2Hall2Net* 06-10-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrch (Post 50735543)
Same with Burns, but look what we gave up for him...

And why would we sell him for scraps because he "could walk in 1 year" when we can just keep him and re-sign him? He's one of our best defenseman.

Boyle -Stuart
Burns- Murray
Vandermeer- Demers

Tbh i dont know your exact Defensive lineups but that looks solid too me.. so if "one year of vlasic" could get you a 10th overall pick who has size and could fit in your top 6 with some of your players aging and on top of that a 32nd overall pick.. i dont see how that could hurt your team.:handclap:

Pinkfloyd 06-10-2012 03:33 PM

The only way that this trade is considered is if the brass feels like Vlasic will not re-sign and will test the market. If so, you do this trade. If not, you work to sign him and you play him with Burns like how it worked last year the first half.

drumzan 06-10-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd (Post 50735893)
The only way that this trade is considered is if the brass feels like Vlasic will not re-sign and will test the market. If so, you do this trade. If not, you work to sign him and you play him with Burns like how it worked last year the first half.

This.

Vlasic is a guy I want to build around, so I sure hope the Sharks don't deal him unless he wants out.

TheJuxtaposer 06-10-2012 03:55 PM

I'm not giving up Vlasic unless a legit young top-6 winger is coming back. And MPS has a long way to go before that happens.

DuckEatinShark 06-10-2012 03:56 PM

So the Sharks are going to roll with just Brad Stuart as our only left-handed defenseman, right?

LHD:
Stuart (unsigned for now)
Vlasic
Murray (trying to trade him)
White (won't be re-signed)
Vandermeer (won't be re-signed)

Vlasic was the most impressive defenseman for us last year. He won't be traded to Edmonton unless he is packaged with something else for Eberle

Nighthock 06-10-2012 04:00 PM

give up what we need the most when we need to win the most ... yeah, no

Le Rosbeef 06-10-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50735123)
EDM Gets: MARC-EDOUARD VLASIC

SJ Gets: MPS + 32nd Overall pick

close? maybe? no ? :help:

Borderline insulting, IMO.

TheJuxtaposer 06-10-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Rosbeef (Post 50737945)
Borderline insulting, IMO.

For sure. I've talked to Blues fans tentatively willing to part with Perron for Pickles. MPS and #32 isn't close.

BigDmitriy 06-10-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer (Post 50738015)
For sure. I've talked to Blues fans tentatively willing to part with Perron for Pickles. MPS and #32 isn't close.

Perron for Pickles eh? That's veryyyyyyyyyy tempting >_>

Le Rosbeef 06-10-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDmitriy (Post 50738039)
Perron for Pickles eh? That's veryyyyyyyyyy tempting >_>

Odds on him playing on Thornton's wing? ;)

TheJuxtaposer 06-10-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDmitriy (Post 50738039)
Perron for Pickles eh? That's veryyyyyyyyyy tempting >_>

Some of them were against it, but a couple recognized Pickles' ability. The point is that I asked for Oshie and they didn't laugh. Pickles is a valuable player. He's a 25 year old #2 defenseman. We'd need a top-6 and potentially top-3 winger of about the same age.

Pinkfloyd 06-10-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer (Post 50738111)
Some of them were against it, but a couple recognized Pickles' ability. The point is that I asked for Oshie and they didn't laugh. Pickles is a valuable player. He's a 25 year old #2 defenseman. We'd need a top-6 and potentially top-3 winger of about the same age.

Chances are that we won't have to worry about dangling Pickles for a trade. I don't see why he'd want to sign somewhere else. As long as DW continues to be generous with his contracts, Vlasic should be staying. I would only entertain the idea of trading him if he has some reason to depart via free agency.

TheJuxtaposer 06-10-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd (Post 50738239)
Chances are that we won't have to worry about dangling Pickles for a trade. I don't see why he'd want to sign somewhere else. As long as DW continues to be generous with his contracts, Vlasic should be staying. I would only entertain the idea of trading him if he has some reason to depart via free agency.

Precisely. I'd hope to see an extension for Vlasic in August-October this year like we saw with Burns and Couture last season and Jumbo the season before.

Inub0i 06-10-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50735123)
EDM Gets: MARC-EDOUARD VLASIC

SJ Gets: MPS + 32nd Overall pick

close? maybe? no ? :help:

How about no.

BigDmitriy 06-10-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer (Post 50738111)
Some of them were against it, but a couple recognized Pickles' ability. The point is that I asked for Oshie and they didn't laugh. Pickles is a valuable player. He's a 25 year old #2 defenseman. We'd need a top-6 and potentially top-3 winger of about the same age.

Vlasic has a lot of value as he should. Oshie or Perron would be a fantastic return for him if we ever decide to go that route.

Eberle2Hall2Net* 06-10-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Rosbeef (Post 50737945)
Borderline insulting, IMO.

im just saying... if you guys might not be able to re-sign him its not that bad of a deal.. not like hes helped you win anything but the "regular season champs trophy" the last couple years.

Spacemania 06-10-2012 05:46 PM

I wouldn't trade pickles for anything. I don't see this team having much of a leg to stand on once his contract expiers anyway. I'm somewhat in an "all in" state of mind

Pinkfloyd 06-10-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50740017)
im just saying... if you guys might not be able to re-sign him its not that bad of a deal.. not like hes helped you win anything but the "regular season champs trophy" the last couple years.

The team's accomplishments don't reflect individual value completely or even in the majority.

TheJuxtaposer 06-10-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RNH2YAK (Post 50740017)
im just saying... if you guys might not be able to re-sign him its not that bad of a deal.. not like hes helped you win anything but the "regular season champs trophy" the last couple years.

He won't go anywhere unless he says he doesn't want to sign. And even then, we'd get better return than that.

And yeah, it's all Vlasic's fault that the Sharks haven't won a Cup, obviously Paajarvi and a 2nd round pick instead of a top-10 defensive defenseman in the league will put us over the edge. :laugh:


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