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ericnut 06-13-2012 10:41 PM

Mike Ribeiro to Anaheim
 
I doubt Dallas traded Ribeiro within a division, but it's possible. If so, what would you realistically want from Anaheim?

Frozen Failure 06-13-2012 10:56 PM

schultz, 2nd?

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frozen Failure (Post 50893959)
schultz, 2nd?

Uhm... no. God no. I highly, highly doubt he signs here even with that extra time.

More than you'd be willing to pay, considering we're in the same division. Call me insane, but from Anaheim, I'd say 6th overall. There aren't many players I'm really interested in. DSP, maybe, but he's probably untouchable.

Eakin + 16th and Pirri + 18th were seen as good value for both sides. Take out the center prospect and I'd expect 4-5 spots up, or around there. And then make it the fact that it'll take some big overpayment to move him within the division and that's what I'd ask for.

It won't happen, though. That's too steep for Anaheim, and I doubt GMJN wants to see Ribs 6+ times next season.

Call me crazy, but that's what I'd do.

I'd be interested in if there'd be a possibility of adding to Ribs for Getzlaf, though. That'd be a big shake-up (obviously not gonna happen within the division though).

ericnut 06-13-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 50894533)
Uhm... no. God no. I highly, highly doubt he signs here even with that extra time.

More than you'd be willing to pay, considering we're in the same division. Call me insane, but from Anaheim, I'd say 6th overall. There aren't many players I'm really interested in. DSP, maybe, but he's probably untouchable.

Eakin + 16th and Pirri + 18th were seen as good value for both sides. Take out the center prospect and I'd expect 4-5 spots up, or around there. And then make it the fact that it'll take some big overpayment to move him within the division and that's what I'd ask for.

It won't happen, though. That's too steep for Anaheim, and I doubt GMJN wants to see Ribs 6+ times next season.

Call me crazy, but that's what I'd do.

I'd be interested in if there'd be a possibility of adding to Ribs for Getzlaf, though. That'd be a big shake-up (obviously not gonna happen within the division though).

I doubt the 6th overall pick would be in play for a 32 year old center. I realize he's a great player, but he might be a little old to move that high of a pick.

But I do understand your concern, and I can see why you'd ask for the pick. What are your organizational needs? We have a very good prospect pool, and a couple of NHL ready prospects.

Frozen Failure 06-13-2012 11:20 PM

We need centers more badly than you guys need centers. NHL ready talent.

glovesave_35 06-13-2012 11:28 PM

Screw the 6th overall I want Emerson Etem.

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895037)
Screw the 6th overall I want Emerson Etem.

I'm not gonna get into a debate, but I don't see his game translating to the NHL very well. Just a hunch, but I don't see him being anything more than an Alexander Giroux (if you even know who he is) type.

glovesave_35 06-13-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 50895153)
I'm not gonna get into a debate, but I don't see his game translating to the NHL very well. Just a hunch, but I don't see him being anything more than an Alexander Giroux (if you even know who he is) type.

Based on what?

piqued 06-13-2012 11:35 PM

Almost had a heart attack before I saw "Proposal" in front.

Holland + 36th overall might be a starting point.

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895261)
Based on what?

A hunch, as I said before. He'll probably prove me wrong, but I just don't see it.

ericnut 06-13-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 50895291)
Almost had a heart attack before I saw "Proposal" in front.

Ha!

Yeah, I'd feel the same way if I saw "Getzlaf to Dallas."

glovesave_35 06-13-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 50895403)
A hunch, as I said before. He'll probably prove me wrong, but I just don't see it.

Damnit I'm bored at work toss me a bone here!

I'm asking if you've seen him and noticed something in his game that won't translate or if this is the hunchiest of hunches.

ericnut 06-13-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895511)
Damnit I'm bored at work toss me a bone here!

I'm asking if you've seen him and noticed something in his game that won't translate or if this is the hunchiest of hunches.

I actually had the exact same feeling until I saw him in the AHL. (Thank you internet!). The sample size is very small, only 6 games, but he got better every game. He scored 3 goals in 6 games, but didn't record any assist.

ericnut 06-13-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 50895291)
Almost had a heart attack before I saw "Proposal" in front.

Holland + 36th overall might be a starting point.

Ah... A realistic Dallas fan. I like this.

Holland and the 36th overall would definitely be available.

glovesave_35 06-13-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ericnut (Post 50895621)
I actually had the exact same feeling until I saw him in the AHL. (Thank you internet!). The sample size is very small, only 6 games, but he got better every game. He scored 3 goals in 6 games, but didn't record any assist.

I never got a chance to see him play but I read up on him a fair bit before his draft and liked what I heard. His big season this year didn't do anything to hurt that impression in my mind. My hunch says this kid could be good because he clearly has some level of goal scoring touch and I've heard his work ethic is top notch.

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895511)
Damnit I'm bored at work toss me a bone here!

I'm asking if you've seen him and noticed something in his game that won't translate or if this is the hunchiest of hunches.

Honestly, I've only seen him play except at the WJC. And I don't even recall much from that. It's just a weird hunch, like me liking the Campbell pick from the get go (heh).

Mr Misty 06-13-2012 11:54 PM

Sbisa please

glovesave_35 06-13-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 50895291)
Holland + 36th overall might be a starting point.

I like this too.

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:55 PM

Would I be wrong in saying Fraser is a poor man's Etem?

Not all that great skating, not very physical, doesn't do much at all but score. But man, can he score.

ericnut 06-13-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895747)
I never got a chance to see him play but I read up on him a fair bit before his draft and liked what I heard. His big season this year didn't do anything to hurt that impression in my mind. My hunch says this kid could be good because he clearly has some level of goal scoring touch and I've heard his work ethic is top notch.

He's on the record as saying he wants to be the best player from his draft class. And he's working out extremely hard this off-season -- he wants to make the team this upcoming season.

I really like his drive, and I think he will become a very good top-6 player in the NHL.

BigG44 06-13-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ericnut (Post 50895721)
Ah... A realistic Dallas fan. I like this.

Holland and the 36th overall would definitely be available.

If Dallas' pro scouts feel Holland was NHL ready, I'd say they'd jump at that deal.

They get a center, and they get another Top 50 pick.

LatvianTwist 06-13-2012 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 50895291)
Holland + 36th overall might be a starting point.

I'm okay with this too. Would like a bit more, as we've had better offers, but it's a good start.

BigG44 06-13-2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 50895939)
I'm okay with this too. Would like a bit more, as we've had better offers, but it's a good start.

I'd argue the majority of those "better" offers aren't nearly as realistic though.

Since Dallas will likely ... hopefully ... only be in the Pacific for 1 more season, the trade might not be that big of deal.

ericnut 06-14-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by glovesave_35 (Post 50895847)
I like this too.

Any other takers?

Peter Holland is 6"3 and 21 years old. He was Drafted 15th overall in 2009.

Here's his talent analysis according to Hockey's Future:

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Holland has begun to put his game together in the past couple of seasons. Where he was a player who could have been described as having all the tools but no tool box, Holland has evened out his effort and consistency. He is a big player with a soft touch. Although he is more of a shoot-first center, he has the vision and passing skills to be a respectable setup man.
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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 50895865)
Would I be wrong in saying Fraser is a poor man's Etem?

Not all that great skating, not very physical, doesn't do much at all but score. But man, can he score.

Etem is actually a pretty good skater, and he's very fast. He will either make the team as a top-6 forward or be sent back to the AHL (according to Bob Murray). The last time the Ducks said that was with Bobby Ryan, and we all know how that turned out.

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigG44 (Post 50895983)
I'd argue the majority of those "better" offers aren't nearly as realistic though.

Since Dallas will likely ... hopefully ... only be in the Pacific for 1 more season, the trade might not be that big of deal.

I hope you are right, but I also hope you aren't planning on holding your breath about realignment.


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