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Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:20 PM

Dallas Stars Firesale
 
I have accepted that Dallas will not win the Cup in 2012, and have instead come to the conclusion that everything must go! (Note this does not include Jamie Benn or Loui Eriksson!)

Players available:
Lehtonen-papers over a ton of cracks in Dallas with great goal tending and would be a good option for teams that need a goalie. Cheaper and younger than other goalies that may be traded.

Ott-2 years of a great 3rd liner ideal for a contender that needs grit. Can also play 2nd line in a pinch.

Ribeiro-one of the best playmaking 2nd line centers out there.

Ryder-35 goals last year playing in an offensive role on a team with zero powerplay.

Robidas-tough as nails RHD for 2nd pairing role.

Morrow-still has grit and leadership to offer, and should bounce back after last season's injuries.

Fistric-big hitting RFA defenseman. Not a ton of value, but some teams might be interested.

Other players like Daley, Larsen, and Goligoski I don't expect to get really solid offers for in relation to their value to the team, so they will be retained as part of the post-rebuild core. Picks this season can only be used to trade up in packages for picks this draft (Morrow+Dallas pick for higher pick for example) and include the LAK 2nd rounder.

Once stripped down, the team needs in no particular order with suggestions:
Top 5 pick in 2012
1st round picks in 2012
Defensive specialist defenseman
Offensive specialist defenseman (Martin?)
Solid 3rd line C who can play the 2013 tank season as a 2C (Bozak?)
NHL ready or nearly ready top 6 C prospects (Spooner or Pirri?)
NHL ready or nearly ready top 6 Wing prospects and top 4 Defense prospects (less important)
Young roster players stuck behind more established players on depth charts that would ideally be in their primes starting around fall 2013
High salary roster players to reach the floor in the tank season, preferably ones with 1 year remaining on their contracts, keeping in mind these players should not be the centerpiece of offers (Armstrong or Lombardi?)

The team will tank in 2013, then make a serious run at UFAs as prospects get NHL ready.

The team doesn't need (but can take with enough incentive):
Goalies-will roll Bachman and Nihlstorp/journeyman backup in goal
Old players that will be declining by 2013-4
Players with long bad contracts
Undersized, jack of all trades defensemen-the team has 4 already

The team as constructed isn't going anywhere, so how about a hypothetical step back in 2012-3 in preparation for a great leap forward! :sarcasm:

This pre-draft boredom is killing me, so make your best offers, no overpayment is too high!

Kessely Snipes 06-14-2012 11:24 PM

I was thinking Steve Ott to Toronto,

Something along the lines of Cody Franson, and maybe a mid round draft pick? Not really sure how much the Stars value him.

Ampersand 06-14-2012 11:24 PM

Oh great, now everyone is going to think Eriksson is available.

TheHudlinator 06-14-2012 11:26 PM

Anything that calgary has that interests you for Ribeiro?

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampersand (Post 50931979)
Oh great, now everyone is going to think Eriksson is available.

I knew this would be the most controversial part. It wouldn't hurt to get some serious offers though

CarvinSigX 06-14-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Misty (Post 50932047)
I knew this would be the most controversial part. It wouldn't hurt to get some serious offers though

How serious are we talking?

Perron
Stewart
Rattie

Rivet52 06-14-2012 11:31 PM

Ott + Fistric for Leopold + Adam + 2nd?

Morozov 06-14-2012 11:31 PM

Martin for Morrow.

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarvinSigX (Post 50932075)
How serious are we talking?

Perron
Stewart
Rattie

I would expect your top prospect, a young roster player, and a pick.

Flat Stanley 06-14-2012 11:33 PM

No Dallas Stars firesale lol.

Those players are all good players to build around. You gotta add not subtract. ;)

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivet52 (Post 50932149)
Ott + Fistric for Leopold + Adam + 2nd?

Done

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morozov (Post 50932173)
Martin for Morrow.

Done

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 50932025)
Anything that calgary has that interests you for Ribeiro?

Baertschi, Giordano, Bowmeester :sarcasm:

CarvinSigX 06-14-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Misty (Post 50932181)
I would expect your top prospect, a young roster player, and a pick.

Make an offer without Tarasenko in it. The Blues have the pieces to get a big deal done.

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyes of Orpik (Post 50932219)
No Dallas Stars firesale lol.

Those players are all good players to build around. You gotta add not subtract. ;)

Add what? We will be lucky to get a 2nd tier UFA IMO, and the best 3rd/4th line guys are all resigning with their current teams.

taylord22 06-14-2012 11:35 PM

Duplicate

taylord22 06-14-2012 11:36 PM

What about Ribeiro?

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylord22 (Post 50932321)
What about Ribiero?

See, he is there in the OP, and so is the list of needs? You could make an offer from which I could figure out the team you are a fan of.

Flat Stanley 06-14-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Misty (Post 50932287)
Add what? We will be lucky to get a 2nd tier UFA IMO, and the best 3rd/4th line guys are all resigning with their current teams.

You guys got Ryder last year, I don't know. What are you looking for and I can give some possible suggestions.

TheHudlinator 06-14-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Misty (Post 50932255)
Baertschi, Giordano, Bowmeester :sarcasm:

Pfft you would have to take Iginla too :sarcasm:

something around Jbo (offensive defenseman only 28 has been misused by Sutter) + Backlund (young #3 that can play second line center) for Ribeiro + Fistric?

Ogi1Kenobi 06-14-2012 11:42 PM

Dallas is not trading Eriksson as he`s part of the core moving forward and it would take ridiculous overpayment to move his cap friendly contract. The same can be said of Lehtonen (at least not at the moment).

Ogi1Kenobi 06-14-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 50932025)
Anything that calgary has that interests you for Ribeiro?

Backlund? Jamie Benn played a season in Kelowna with Backlund a couple years back. I'd think they would be familiar with each other.

I'm not sure what Calgary is willing to part with.

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eyes of Orpik (Post 50932381)
You guys got Ryder last year, I don't know. What are you looking for and I can give some possible suggestions.

Not to get too far off topic, but the team needs 2 top 6 wings (maybe 1 can come from the farm system), a 3C, and a top pairing D. UFA options aren't really there, and there isn't any hope we can land Parise or Suter. The organization has been publicly saying they won't overpay for guys who aren't top talent, and they will really have to fleece a team in a trade to get the kind of assets needed.

CarvinSigX 06-14-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogi1Kenobi (Post 50932501)
Dallas is not trading Eriksson as he`s part of the core moving forward and it would take ridiculous overpayment to move his cap friendly contract. The same can be said of Lehtonen (at least not at the moment).

Is this enough of an overpayment?

Perron
Stewart
Rattie
1st

Eriksson
2nd

Mr Misty 06-14-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 50932457)
Pfft you would have to take Iginla too :sarcasm:

something around Jbo (offensive defenseman only 28 has been misused by Sutter) + Backlund (young #3 that can play second line center) for Ribeiro + Fistric?

Done.

TheHudlinator 06-14-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogi1Kenobi (Post 50932515)
Backlund?

Straight up or package?

SEALBound 06-14-2012 11:45 PM

I would love to get Staal resigned for $5.5-6mil for a couple years.

Then make a Staal + Tangradi + 1st 2013 offer for Eriksson.


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