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End of Line 06-15-2012 07:53 PM

Fight Announcements & Rumors - Part 6
 
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CNS 06-16-2012 05:27 AM

I'm fine with Struve/Miocic as a main on a Fuel/FX card as long as it's not filled with a bunch of fights I don't care about to go along with it. As eluded to in the other thread, Hardy will be on the card all but guaranteed.

Captain_Cunney 06-16-2012 09:30 AM

That's a good fight in my books also, leaning Struve at the moment.

I do wish they would have went with original Struve/Hunt matchup from the HW card. I'd like to see hunt & Nelson now..

CNS 06-16-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Cunney (Post 50976591)
That's a good fight in my books also, leaning Struve at the moment.

I do wish they would have went with original Struve/Hunt matchup from the HW card. I'd like to see hunt & Nelson now..

Hunt/Nelson would be a great fight to add to that card. Then the winners could fight for the #1 contender spot.

m9 06-16-2012 05:09 PM

Big Nog out of Calgary now, replaced by Shawn Jordan vs Kongo.

Feel bad for the fans in Calgary, as the card is now approaching Vancouver territory in terms of dreadfulness.

End of Line 06-16-2012 05:14 PM

I feel sorry for the fans that bought tickets to that card.

Avs_19 06-16-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Line (Post 50990033)
I feel sorry for the fans that bought tickets to that card.

:cry:

Captain_Cunney 06-17-2012 08:48 AM

Man alive, I thought the last Montreal card blew, this one is the sasha grey of blowing.

Is Shawn Jordan really the best replacement they could find? Really? Is Hunt hurt?

The Faber fight was a solid replacement all things considered. The rest not so much....

Out:
Aldo Koch Shogun Thiago Nog Akiyama Alves Bisping

In:
Faber Barrao Jordan Siyar Clemments Lombard

That's a mike milbury type swap! Is this the UFC again taking advantage of the rabid Canadian mma fans? Maybe they can save the card with Struve/McKorkle II.

Having this stinker following Silva/Franklin II tells me they are going to need to grow the roster with more fighters, stop cutting guys on 2 fight losing streaks or reduce the # of events.

Ron Burgandy would call this bush league.

Fanpuck33 06-17-2012 09:02 AM

The last Montreal card ended up being on of the best events that year. Not a lot of name power, but I remember there being a lot of good fights.

Peter Griffin 06-17-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain_Cunney (Post 51004899)
Man alive, I thought the last Montreal card blew, this one is the sasha grey of blowing.

Is Shawn Jordan really the best replacement they could find? Really? Is Hunt hurt?

No, but Hunt just KO'ed Kongo.:)

Quote:

That's a mike milbury type swap! Is this the UFC again taking advantage of the rabid Canadian mma fans? Maybe they can save the card with Struve/McKorkle II.

Having this stinker following Silva/Franklin II tells me they are going to need to grow the roster with more fighters, stop cutting guys on 2 fight losing streaks or reduce the # of events.

Ron Burgandy would call this bush league.
The issue is they clearly have too many events and once injuries start piling up, they can't deal with it. The FOX/FX cards are generally already stretched to thin as it is as well.

I am the Liquor 06-17-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain_Cunney (Post 51004899)
Man alive, I thought the last Montreal card blew, this one is the sasha grey of blowing.

Is Shawn Jordan really the best replacement they could find? Really? Is Hunt hurt?

The Faber fight was a solid replacement all things considered. The rest not so much....

Out:
Aldo Koch Shogun Thiago Nog Akiyama Alves Bisping

In:
Faber Barrao Jordan Siyar Clemments Lombard

That's a mike milbury type swap! Is this the UFC again taking advantage of the rabid Canadian mma fans? Maybe they can save the card with Struve/McKorkle II.

Having this stinker following Silva/Franklin II tells me they are going to need to grow the roster with more fighters, stop cutting guys on 2 fight losing streaks or reduce the # of events.

Ron Burgandy would call this bush league.

They should be giving fans a 24hr window to refund their tickets.

What they are doing is nothing more than a bait and switch.

kurt 06-18-2012 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by I am the Liquor (Post 51025441)
They should be giving fans a 24hr window to refund their tickets.

What they are doing is nothing more than a bait and switch.

Well, I think most of the time it's genuine bad luck, but I think there were was some maniuplation happening during the Brock Lesnar Vancouver event.

I don't know why people buy tickets so far in advance. In the 8 hours before the event you're likely going to get tickets at anywhere from face value +10% to absolutely free via Twitter. Well worth the risk of taking your chances.

CNS 06-18-2012 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurt (Post 51033723)
Well, I think most of the time it's genuine bad luck, but I think there were was some maniuplation happening during the Brock Lesnar Vancouver event.

I don't know why people buy tickets so far in advance. In the 8 hours before the event you're likely going to get tickets at anywhere from face value +10% to absolutely free via Twitter. Well worth the risk of taking your chances.

See, with the UFC, I'd be the total opposite. If they were coming back to San Jose or SF (not Oakland. **** Oakland) and there was a rumored main event I liked, I'd buy tickets day one. You gotta remember for a place like Calgary, this is the first time ever for the UFC to be there, or in Alberta for that matter I'm pretty sure (Wasn't it WEC who did an event in Edmonton?). When you get something like the UFC that doesn't come to town very often, people like to book it in advance. It's a pretty big part of the UFC's business model. Obviously everything in Vegas will do well but if you only go to other places every 6 months, a year, two years, 3 years, etc, people are going to want to go the next time you come because who knows when they'll be back. And especially a place like Calgary. I don't really foresee Calgary getting a lot of visits from Dana and co. so most people wanna guarantee they can go when they have the chance.

But I am with you on hockey tix. I've actually won a pair to a Kings game via twitter and I live 6 hrs away from LA. Game was the next day at noon no less. Booked a hotel and drove literally right after I won to go.

Captain_Cunney 06-18-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am the Liquor (Post 51025441)
They should be giving fans a 24hr window to refund their tickets.

Absolutely.

I almost purchased tickets for this but our family in Alberta is coming home in July so that fell through. Thank god, tickets/flights/meals to see that card would have had me heading to the buffalo jump for a plunge.

Quote:

No, but Hunt just KO'ed Kongo.
My bad, I just threw a name out who we haven't saw, didn't really put much thought into it.

The point still remains though, I think either Nelson or Struve would have stepped in for the right$$$. They both had a quick fight recently & came out virtually unscathed (I think).

Even a Kongo/Del'Rosario fight would have been awesome. Jordan is a good wrestler but he got tagged a lot in his last fight, against a guy who had rudimentary striking in comparison to Cheick. I really have little interest in that fight, especially as a
co-headliner in a debuting city.

I am the Liquor 06-18-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurt (Post 51033723)
Well, I think most of the time it's genuine bad luck, but I think there were was some maniuplation happening during the Brock Lesnar Vancouver event.

I don't know why people buy tickets so far in advance. In the 8 hours before the event you're likely going to get tickets at anywhere from face value +10% to absolutely free via Twitter. Well worth the risk of taking your chances.

I agree on waiting, especially with what we have seen on some of these cards. The Vancouver one you are referring to and this one being probably the two worst examples.

Offering a refund window would be the classy thing to do. As others have stated, some of these people are coming from a ways away to see this, it would be a shame to have to see what amounts to an undercard when you were expecting Shogun/Aldo/Big Nog. That's a bunch of crap man.

I would assume most people would still keep their tickets and go anyway, and really, I would bet a large percentage of the tickets were bought up buy ticket agencies and scalpers, so in a way, this is a good thing.

m9 06-18-2012 12:43 PM

Yeah last time the UFC was in Vancouver I just waited for the card to fall apart and got the tickets for 1/2 of face value. Although that card was bad to begin with and it didn't take much for that one to fall off.

For whatever reason it seems like the Vegas shows fall apart less. I am likely going to the September one and I'm not worried about buying tickets in advance.

AndyPipkin 06-18-2012 12:52 PM

What a year is has been for MMA injuries...

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UFC fights lost to injury in 2012

The UFC has experienced a unprecedented run of fight-cancelling injuries in 2012, detailed below.
Heavyweight

Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve
Hunt out, Lavar Johnson in, loses.

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Cheick Kongo
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira out, Shawn Jordan in (pending).

Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Roy Nelson
Gonzaga out, Dave Herman in, loses.

Rob Broughton vs. Ednaldo Oliveira
Broughton out, Gonzaga in, wins.

Light Heavyweight

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Alexander Gustafsson
Little Nog nog out with knee injury, Thiago Silva in, loses.

Thiago Silva vs. Mauricio Rua
Silva out, Brandon Vera in (pending).

Chad Griggs vs. Phil Davis
Griggs out, Wagner Prado in (pending).

Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva (rematch after first bout declared NC due to Silva's failed PED test)
Vera out, Igor Pokrajac in
Silva out (to replace Nogueira against Gustafsson, where he lost).

Jorgen Kruth vs. Cyrille Diabate
Kruth out, Tom DeBlass in, loses.

Fabio Maldonado vs. Caio Magalhaes
Caio Magalhaes in after visa problems force Stanislav Nedkov out due to visa issues
Maldonado out, fight scrapped.

Middleweight

Mark Munoz vs. Chael Sonnen
Munoz out, Michael Bisping in, loses close decision.

Michael Bisping vs. Tim Boetsch
Bisping out, Hector Lombard in (pending).

Brian Stann vs. Hector Lombard
Stann out, and Lombard pulled to Tim Boetsch at UFC 149.

Vitor Belfort vs. Wanderlei Silva
Belfort out, Rich Franklin in (pending)
Wih Franklin moved, Patrick Cote in vs Cung Le.

Jared Hamman vs. Kyle Noke
Hamman out, Andrew Craig in.
Noke injured during fight, Crag wins decision.

Welterweight

Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz
GSP out, Condit in, wins Interim title.

Jon Fitch vs. Aaron Simpson
Fitch out, Kenny Robertson in (pending).

Siyar Bahadurzada vs. Erick Silva
Bahadurzada out, Carlo Prater in. Prater wins by DQ (strikes to back of head)

Thiago Alves vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Akiyama out, Bahadurzada in.
Alves out, Chris Clements in.
Fight is now Bahadurzada vs. Clements (pending).

Paulo Thiago vs. Mike Pyle
Thiago out, Ricardo Funch in, loses.

Rick Story vs. Rich Attonito
Attonito out, Papy Abedi in.
Abedi out, Brock Jardine in (pending).

Matt Riddle vs. Luis Ramos
Riddle out, Matt Brown in (pending).

Lightweight

George Sotiropoulos vs. Takanori Gomi
Sotiropoulos out, Eiji Mitsuoka in, loses.

Matt Wiman vs. Mark Bocek
Wiman out John Alessio in, loses.

Evan Dunham vs. Edson Barboza
Dunham out, Jamie Varner in, wins.

Paul Sass vs. Evan Dunham
Paul Sass, Nik Lentz in, loses FOTY.

Tony Ferguson vs. Dennis Hallman/Thiago Tavares
Dennis Hallman out, Thiago Tavares in,
Tavares out, Michael Johnson in, wins.

Yves Edwards vs. Donald Cerrone
Edwards out, Jeremy Stephens in, loses.

Paul Taylor vs. Anthony Njokuani
Taylor out, Rafael dos Anjos in (pending).

Cody McKenzie vs. Michael Johnson
McKenzie out, Shane Roller in, loses.

Aaron Riley vs. Cody McKenzie
Riley out, Marcus LeVesseur in, loses.

Featherweight

Jose Aldo vs. Erik Koch
Aldo out, Koch waiting for Aldo ot heal.

Leonard Garcia vs. Tiequan Zhang
Garcia out, Issei Tamura in, wins.

Pablo Garza vs. Josh Grispi
Garza out, Rani Yahya in (pending).

Robert Peralta vs. Mackens Semerzier
Peralta out, Daniel Pineda in, wins. Semerzier released.

Akira Corassani vs. Jason Young
Corassani out, Eric Wisely in, loses.

Bantamweight

Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber
Cruz out, Renan Barao in (pending, for interim title).

Eddie Wineland vs. Johnny Bedford
Wineland out, Mitch Gagnon in.
Gagnon out with visa issues, fight cancelled.

Mike Easton vs. Yves Jabouin
Easton out, Jeff Hougland in, loses for first time in UFC.

Jimmy Hettes vs. Steven Siler
Hettes out, Joey Gambino in (pending)

Byron Bloodworth vs. John Albert
Bloodworth out, Erik Perez in, wins controversial submission.

Johnny Bedford vs. Nick Denis
Bedford out, Roland Delorme in, wins upset.

Ken Stone vs. Edwin Figueroa/Francisco Rivera
Edwin Figueroa, Francisco Rivera in.
Rivera out, Dustin Pague in (pending; Pague will have fought twice in two weeks)

Azamat Gashimov vs. Alex Soto
Gashimov, Francisco Rivera in, wins UD.

Flyweight

Darren Uyenoyama vs. John Dodson
Uyenoyama out, Tim Elliott in, loses.

AndyPipkin 06-18-2012 12:54 PM

^ I love how Thiago Alves vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama some how turned into Bahadurzada vs. Clements lol.

End of Line 06-18-2012 06:10 PM

Palhares replaces Luiz Cane, and now faces Okami at UFC 150.

DeathFromAbove 06-19-2012 07:44 PM

That's a much better fight but I don't see Okami having problems with Palhares.

End of Line 06-19-2012 11:05 PM

Hardy vs. Sadollah scheduled for UFC in Nottingham

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...in-Nottingham/

Captain_Cunney 06-20-2012 09:32 AM

Nice, I wanted them to match those two up next. That should be a good scrap, Hardy should be able to catch him at some point.

Hopefully Okami gets back in the win column, feeling te same as DFA, Okami should be able to stuff the TD & win most the exchanges. It will probably play out similar to Hendo/Palhares.

CNS 06-23-2012 06:48 AM

Per Ariel Helwani (via a YT video he did), Aldo expected to be back in action in October. Koch fight is still on when he's back. I hope he means the fight is in October, not Aldo can start training again then.

Gene Parmesan 06-24-2012 01:42 AM

Cain/JDS rematch is no longer gonna happen at UFC 152. Just saw it on twitter. Sorry Canada :(

Live in the Now 06-27-2012 11:22 PM

Terry Etim is being replaced by Jamie Varner, who will now face Joe Lauzon at UFC on Fox 4. Good fight.

https://twitter.com/ufc/status/218178175300145152


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