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JawandaPuck 04-13-2012 06:18 AM

G Oscar Dansk - Brynäs J20, SuperElit (2012 Draft)
 
Oscar Dansk
6'2.5" / 186
Brynäs J20, SuperElit.
Feb 28/94 , Stockholm, SWE

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mln2GeCHIg...scar%2BSWE.jpg

Stats: http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=42373

CSS 2012 Ranking Euro Goalies:
Mid: 2 | Final: 2

Bill Placzek:
Cool, quick-legged, butterfly goalie who displays strong positioning, good balance, and has size to the top of the net. The top goalie available from Sweden. Lets the play come to him, anticipates well, and is pretty agile, so he recovers well. Very sharp and in control during games and forces shooters to commit by being more patient than they are. Gives few rebounds and has great feet to reposition himself quickly. Teams are not only familiar with him because his performance at last summer's Ivan Hlinkla tourney, but also because he was a member of the Shattuck St. Mary's program before returning to Sweden to hone his skills there.
http://www.tysongibbons.com/image/dansk.jpg

Dansk with 44 saves for the Team Sweden shutout vs USA in WJAC:

joe89 04-13-2012 06:27 AM

Best Swedish goalie since Markstrom imo(not counting Lehner who came thru OHL). That scouting report pretty much sums it up. His International competition numbers this season are insane, and I project him to be our WJC starter next year.

Jepprey 04-13-2012 06:38 AM

I like him over the other Subban and Vaselevski. Still, probably the third goalie taken?

scoutman1 04-13-2012 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jepprey (Post 47888623)
I like him over the other Subban and Vaselevski. Still, probably the third goalie taken?

I agree IMO he is the best goalie for the draft and is underrated for the draft, this guy is a high end goalie and should be the 1st goalie taken in the 1st round IMO, he will probably be 2nd to 3rd goalie taken because he plays europe.

OHLFan8771 04-13-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 47888959)
I agree IMO he is the best goalie for the draft and is underrated for the draft, this guy is a high end goalie and should be the 1st goalie taken in the 1st round IMO, he will probably be 2nd to 3rd goalie taken because he plays europe.

Any chance of him entering the import draft and playing for a CHL team next season?

Franck 04-13-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 47888507)
Best Swedish goalie since Markstrom imo(not counting Lehner who came thru OHL). That scouting report pretty much sums it up. His International competition numbers this season are insane, and I project him to be our WJC starter next year.

Lehner was playing for Frölunda when he was drafted.

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Originally Posted by Ottersfan (Post 47890891)
Any chance of him entering the import draft and playing for a CHL team next season?

I think it all comes down to what happens with Niklas Svedberg and Johan Holmqvist during the off-season. If either of those two leaves Brynäs during the summer I would expect Dansk to stay as the back-up next season.

scoutman1 04-13-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ottersfan (Post 47890891)
Any chance of him entering the import draft and playing for a CHL team next season?

well with any Euro there is always a chance...im not sure 100% if he will....usually your best bet for guys coming over are Czech, Slovaks, Swiss...but latley Russians have been good for coming over too and the odd swedish player here and there but usually I find Finish and Swedish players stay home and play, but if he comes im sure there are GM's contacting his agent or him and seeing what is going on, if he says yes then he will be drafted, but there is never a list of a for sure players coming over usually the GMs of the teams make the calls and find out if there target players are going to come over or not and scouts like me have no clue who is coming over but we see the players and tell the GM who is good but he does the work in finding out, once I tell him who is good it is out of my hands. Even some other teams like Quebec might have known Grigorenko was coming but say Chicoutimi would never have a clue he was.

OHLFan8771 04-13-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 47891275)
well with any Euro there is always a chance...im not sure 100% if he will....usually your best bet for guys coming over are Czech, Slovaks, Swiss...but latley Russians have been good for coming over too and the odd swedish player here and there but usually I find Finish and Swedish players stay home and play, but if he comes im sure there are GM's contacting his agent or him and seeing what is going on, if he says yes then he will be drafted, but there is never a list of a for sure players coming over usually the GMs of the teams make the calls and find out if there target players are going to come over or not and scouts like me have no clue who is coming over but we see the players and tell the GM who is good but he does the work in finding out, once I tell him who is good it is out of my hands. Even some other teams like Quebec might have known Grigorenko was coming but say Chicoutimi would never have a clue he was.

Ok thank you for the input. The Erie Otters desperately need a goaltender for next season and Dansk or Serebryakov seem to be high end players. I hope he comes over and plays but would the NHL team that drafts him (Dansk) be able to sway him and have him come to North America?

1912 04-13-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ottersfan (Post 47892999)
Ok thank you for the input. The Erie Otters desperately need a goaltender for next season and Dansk or Serebryakov seem to be high end players. I hope he comes over and plays but would the NHL team that drafts him (Dansk) be able to sway him and have him come to North America?

It's possible they might talk him in to it as for the moment it looks like both Brynäs senior keepers, Johan Holmqvist and Niklas Svedberg, are staying with the team wich leaves little room for Dansk to play. The only scenario is if both goalies get injured or he takes a huge step this offseason.

What might hold him back is that he is currently working with(imo) Swedens best goalie coach. There have litteraly been goalies coming here for the sole reason of working with him. And i believe that was one of the reasons Dansk chose to come to Brynäs in the first place.

benzino 04-13-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Markstroms pads (Post 47895115)
It's possible they might talk him in to it as for the moment it looks like both Brynäs senior keepers, Johan Holmqvist and Niklas Svedberg, are staying with the team wich leaves little room for Dansk to play. The only scenario is if both goalies get injured or he takes a huge step this offseason.

What might hold him back is that he is currently working with(imo) Swedens best goalie coach. There have litteraly been goalies coming here for the sole reason of working with him. And i believe that was one of the reasons Dansk chose to come to Brynäs in the first place.

Not sure how eager Holmqvist is to spend another season as a backup though. And Brynäs isn't the richest team around, having a backup goalie that is one of the most well paid players doesn't fit into their policy. Brynäs usually like to give young players a chance. Honken and Brynäs at this point would probably be better off parting ways.

1912 04-13-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by benzino (Post 47895835)
Not sure how eager Holmqvist is to spend another season as a backup though. And Brynäs isn't the richest team around, having a backup goalie that is one of the most well paid players doesn't fit into their policy. Brynäs usually like to give young players a chance. Honken and Brynäs at this point would probably be better off parting ways.

Backup? They have shared the work load all year and is one of the reasons they both have looked so fresh in the playoffs. Holmqvist was our numer one going in to the playoffs byt got sick and Svedberg took over. There is no numer one in Brynäs. And both of them has contracts runing through next season. Besides Holmqvist took a big "home town" discount to play with Brynäs this season. His contract is not all that big. And Brynäs in not exactly short on money these days either. They have the third highest salary budget in the league if i remember correctly.

Johan Holmqvist, regular season, games played: 28
Niklas Svedberg, regular season, games played: 29
Johan Holmqvist, playoffs, games played: 3
Niklas Svedberg, playoffs, games played: 9

patthebest 05-03-2012 09:14 PM

Why did he played in NA and then returned to Sweden? Is it common?
http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=42373

puckfan13 05-04-2012 09:13 PM

I always wondered why he left Fairbault after his first midget year... I guess there is not much precedent for Swedish goalies succeeding in the CHL? Lehner is a recent example, but that was always weird to me, I believe he played with Miles Koules (NTDP) and Keegan Lowe in his first Bantam year at SSM.

Kulemon 05-04-2012 09:24 PM

How does he compare to Markstrom?

B Boarding 05-05-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by oilsp1ll (Post 49280421)
I always wondered why he left Fairbault after his first midget year... I guess there is not much precedent for Swedish goalies succeeding in the CHL? Lehner is a recent example, but that was always weird to me, I believe he played with Miles Koules (NTDP) and Keegan Lowe in his first Bantam year at SSM.


My guess would be that he got the chance to come to the Brynäs organization and have the opportunity to work for goalie coach Pekka Alcén. Alcén must be one the absolutely best goalie coaches of today. His track record the last couple of years are amazing: Jacob Markström, Eddie Läck, Anders Lindbäck, Joakim Eriksson. Recently also SEL-winning goalie Niklas Svedberg and Oscar Dansk of course.

EverybodyLovesRay 05-05-2012 04:09 AM

So overrated. He's never gonna make it to NHL

puckfan13 05-05-2012 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by B Boarding (Post 49288857)
My guess would be that he got the chance to come to the Brynäs organization and have the opportunity to work for goalie coach Pekka Alcén. Alcén must be one the absolutely best goalie coaches of today. His track record the last couple of years are amazing: Jacob Markström, Eddie Läck, Anders Lindbäck, Joakim Eriksson. Recently also SEL-winning goalie Niklas Svedberg and Oscar Dansk of course.

Ah I see, that is very interesting. Thanks for the info.

Not to get too off topic but how does the Swedish developmental system work exactly? Dansk would have left when he was 13. Do they play throughout a conventional minor hockey system compared to those of Canada until then? When do they become property of the "club" teams and enter their developmental system and how does that differ from where they originally developed?

1912 05-05-2012 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilsp1ll (Post 49280421)
I always wondered why he left Fairbault after his first midget year... I guess there is not much precedent for Swedish goalies succeeding in the CHL? Lehner is a recent example, but that was always weird to me, I believe he played with Miles Koules (NTDP) and Keegan Lowe in his first Bantam year at SSM.

He left North America to work with this guy.

http://images.sportsverige.com/files...71_440x326.jpg
(Left)

Swedens best goalie coach.

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Originally Posted by Kulemon
How does he compare to Markstrom?

Both plays/played for Brynäs, both had Pekka as goalie coach so obviously their styles are very similar. Markström is, as far as i can tell, the better prospect but not by much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by B Boarding
My guess would be that he got the chance to come to the Brynäs organization and have the opportunity to work for goalie coach Pekka Alcén. Alcén must be one the absolutely best goalie coaches of today. His track record the last couple of years are amazing: Jacob Markström, Eddie Läck, Anders Lindbäck, Joakim Eriksson. Recently also SEL-winning goalie Niklas Svedberg and Oscar Dansk of course.

+1

1912 05-05-2012 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilsp1ll (Post 49289175)
Not to get too off topic but how does the Swedish developmental system work exactly? Dansk would have left when he was 13. Do they play throughout a conventional minor hockey system compared to those of Canada until then? When do they become property of the "club" teams and enter their developmental system and how does that differ from where they originally developed?

No, almost every Swedish team from Elitserien to Division 2(tier 4)boasts a number of junior teams in different age groups and divisions(it's basically just like the mens legues except the junior system is separate). they are located in the same city as the Senior team and usually play and practice in the same facilities. They either stay in their home town and play their junior years there and then play for the senior team or ,if you are from a smaller market with limited junior development, go to a better market where they have a chance to work with better coaches.

There are only a few junior-only teams in Sweden and the players usually go to one of the big teams once they are old enough or feel they should move on because they are to good.

They are property of the teams from the time they sign their first Junior contract. Until then they can move freely. Many Swedish prospects play on the same team from the day they first start playing hockey until they are NHL-bound.

Silfverberg is a good example.

http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=6562

Hockeyfrilla 05-05-2012 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Loscar (Post 49288959)
So overrated. He's never gonna make it to NHL

Dansk is not overrated.

zaluty 05-05-2012 08:04 AM

Kingston, rumour has it has a high end European goalie coming over. Now who is it and is the rumour true we will find out in late August.

Ferros 05-05-2012 10:38 AM

He was amazing in Tv-Pucken a few years ago, he got lots and lots of potential in him.

WeThreeKings 05-05-2012 03:02 PM

Really hoping the Habs nab him with one of their 2nds. Would be good to have an elite goalie prospect behind Price.

Pentothal 05-05-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferros (Post 49293247)
He was amazing in Tv-Pucken a few years ago, he got lots and lots of potential in him.

He was awesome. Remember wishing he would have scored that empty netter :D

Royal Canuck 05-09-2012 04:42 PM

I'd take Dansk over Subban and Vasilievsky.
Dansk's technical game is much better than the others, and his over composure is better as well.


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