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vcv 06-19-2012 03:14 PM

Sabres make bid on "Webster" property
 
The Sabres are one of 3 bids on the parking lot area (2 acres) across from First Niagara Center.

Sabres plans:
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Sources said the Sabres are proposing a multi-rink facility, with a themed sports bar/restaurant to be developed by Delaware North Cos. , for the block. The rinks would be used as a practice facility for the team as well as the home base for some of the area’s collegiate hockey teams. It would also host amateur and youth tournaments.
source: http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/n...r.html?ana=twt

Chainshot 06-19-2012 03:20 PM

If Palladino put in a bid, I take it that it's about to be used by the NY State gov't right? That's how he makes most of his money...

Edit - I see his is the hotel bid. Or are there two hotel bids? Seems the third player in this gets almost no press.

SackTastic 06-19-2012 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 51093383)
If Palladino put in a bid, I take it that it's about to be used by the NY State gov't right? That's how he makes most of his money...

I was thinking the exact same thing. What government agency needs more office space down there?

All in all I hope the Sabres get it. Not just from the hockey aspects, but also because they won't be sucking at the teet of public dollars like Uncle Carl does.

SabresBillsBuffalo 06-19-2012 03:42 PM

Carl really needs to **** off

Woodhouse 06-19-2012 07:35 PM

The Webster Block is the parking lot on Washington directly outside the Sabres Store, correct? And by local college teams, I assume the writer is alluding to Canisius College, as UB hasn't made any hockey plans, right?

joshjull 06-20-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 51107731)
The Webster Block is the parking lot on Washington directly outside the Sabres Store, correct? And by local college teams, I assume the writer is alluding to Canisius College, as UB hasn't made any hockey plans, right?

Canisius, Buff State and ECC are the likely users. Possible double headers with Canisius and Niagara.

Chainshot 06-20-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 51107731)
The Webster Block is the parking lot on Washington directly outside the Sabres Store, correct? And by local college teams, I assume the writer is alluding to Canisius College, as UB hasn't made any hockey plans, right?

Outside of UB's club team that plays over at the Northtown Ctr., there is nothing in the works there that I have heard.

gallagt01 06-20-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by joshjull (Post 51128487)
Canisius, Buff State and ECC are the likely users. Possible double headers with Canisius and Niagara.

Buff State has its own ice arena on campus. From a convenience standpoint, I can't imagine the school would stop using it.

joshjull 06-20-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Loods (Post 51128647)
Buff State has its own ice arena on campus. From a convenience standpoint, I can't imagine the school would stop using it.

I know they do. I'm thinking showcase games here and there. Or double headers with another local school

SackTastic 06-20-2012 09:45 AM

I'd expect Canisus, ECC, Buff State, and even NU take some advantage of a pair of rinks downtown. Maybe even some regional tournaments with Geneseo and RIT or something.

Plus there were rumblings late last year about UB getting back into D1 hockey. Who knows.

Either way, more rinks is more better.

Chainshot 06-20-2012 09:52 AM

I agree, more rinks is better -- might re-open the option of an OHL team too which remains a somewhat distant pipedream of mine :biglaugh: -- but three of those local schools have recent, good facilities (ECC, Buff St. and NU). A new rink could break the Northtown Ctr's. grip on many local tournaments and perhaps allow them to do something more regional in nature. Canisius and UB maybe? Not sure.

joshjull 06-20-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 51129205)
I agree, more rinks is better -- might re-open the option of an OHL team too which remains a somewhat distant pipedream of mine :biglaugh: -- but three of those local schools have recent, good facilities (ECC, Buff St. and NU). A new rink could break the Northtown Ctr's. grip on many local tournaments and perhaps allow them to do something more regional in nature. Canisius and UB maybe? Not sure.

ECC has a new rink?

joshjull 06-20-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Beechsack (Post 51128979)
I'd expect Canisus, ECC, Buff State, and even NU take some advantage of a pair of rinks downtown. Maybe even some regional tournaments with Geneseo and RIT or something.

Plus there were rumblings late last year about UB getting back into D1 hockey. Who knows.

Either way, more rinks is more better.

As a local youth hockey coach I can say there is an enormous demand for ice time. As a girls hockey coach I can also say ice time is sorely needed to help girls hockey to keep growing and not regress.

Chainshot 06-20-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joshjull (Post 51129353)
ECC has a new rink?

New-ish. :laugh: Flinkinger isn't THAT old.

Woodhouse 06-20-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Beechsack (Post 51128979)
Plus there were rumblings late last year about UB getting back into D1 hockey. Who knows.

Yeah, I didn't think those rumors progressed into anything, as I would've remembered seeing them on here.

SackTastic 06-20-2012 10:46 AM

There can't be enough rinks IMO, especially in the city.

I stopped playing because the only ice time our group could get was 10:30 on a Thursday at Tacoma or Riverside. It was too much to play for 60-90 minutes, then drive back to Niagara Falls, all on a work night. I'm too old for that crap.

joshjull 06-20-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainshot (Post 51130345)
New-ish. :laugh: Flinkinger isn't THAT old.

Are you talking about building next to the city campus? That's not a rink but it is a training facility.

vcv 06-20-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Beechsack (Post 51131209)
There can't be enough rinks IMO, especially in the city.

I stopped playing because the only ice time our group could get was 10:30 on a Thursday at Tacoma or Riverside. It was too much to play for 60-90 minutes, then drive back to Niagara Falls, all on a work night. I'm too old for that crap.

Indeed. Some coworkers try to get ice time once a week and usually it's 11:30. Next 2 months there isn't even anything available, at all.

SackTastic 06-20-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vcv (Post 51133003)
Indeed. Some coworkers try to get ice time once a week and usually it's 11:30. Next 2 months there isn't even anything available, at all.

Yeah, it sucks. I had fallen in with a really good group of guys who were more about a good hard skate and enjoying themselves more than trying to show off and be tough guys. I just couldn't hack getting 4 hours of sleep before work every Friday.

mechaphil 06-20-2012 11:05 PM

Newer Buffalo Business First story says the Sabres' bid also includes a hotel and retail space in the proposed facility http://goo.gl/BwDkb

DixonWard15 06-21-2012 12:07 AM

another rink is never a bad thing

Taro Tsujimoto 06-21-2012 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mechaphil (Post 51167695)
Newer Buffalo Business First story says the Sabres' bid also includes a hotel and retail space in the proposed facility http://goo.gl/BwDkb

An interesting nugget I found in that article:

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The NHL team may occasionally use one of the rinks if First Niagara Center is booked with a concert, lacrosse game or other special event.
Does that mean the Sabres would actually play some games at one of the two rinks if FNC is booked? I kind of find that hard to believe, unless the facility is hockey-only (which would necessitate building the rinks with the NHL's rink size in mind).

HiddenInLight 06-21-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taro Tsujimoto (Post 51172287)
An interesting nugget I found in that article:



Does that mean the Sabres would actually play some games at one of the two rinks if FNC is booked? I kind of find that hard to believe, unless the facility is hockey-only (which would necessitate building the rinks with the NHL's rink size in mind).

More likely for practices and events and the like. I doubt they will play games there.

Husko 06-21-2012 10:41 AM

That could be huge for Canisius.

I've said it before, they get their own rink, just give it 5 years and they will be a team to be reckoned with nationally.

CarlWinslow 06-21-2012 11:04 AM

Sounds like opening and operating an ice rink in the city of Buffalo would be a potentially profitable venture. Hmmm.


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