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medb31 06-20-2012 02:17 AM

asst. coaching candidates
 
Long time sharks fan, this is my first post here. I was just wondering who other sharks fans think Wilson and Mclellan will target this off season for assistant coaches or who other sharks fans would want to see behind the bench or who will fit in good in San Jose next season.

Sharksfan83 06-20-2012 02:19 AM

Mike Ricci! Or Bret Hedican, his comments throughout the year were always bang on the mark.

LadyStanley 06-20-2012 02:21 AM

May also be targetting someone on Kings or Devils staff based on comments of having to wait to talk to some of the candidates they are considering.

Marchment has also been mentioned as a possible candidate.

And "AHL coaches". However, I think that may be Cunniff rather than Sommer.

Oppa 06-20-2012 03:37 AM

vote for the Hedi-cam err Hedican

sjshark91 06-20-2012 05:21 AM

Anyone except the two morons they had.

SpinTheBlackCircle 06-20-2012 05:57 AM

Welcome to the board, OP :)

Definately need new blood here, aggressive blood, not the passive "let the game come to you" type of game they played all last year.

Speed 06-20-2012 09:33 AM

I'd say Cunniff (if they can get past the hard core Boston accent LOL)

ChompChomp 06-20-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjshark91 (Post 51123695)
Anyone except the two morons they had.

Sadly, I'm surprised nobody is talking about this, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Shaw or Woodcroft are being fired, just that one assistant is being added. Ridiculous. :shakehead

Hatrick Marleau 06-20-2012 11:37 AM

Bryan Marchment

Nighthock 06-20-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjshark91 (Post 51123695)
Anyone except the two morons they had.

or Hedican ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChompChomp
Sadly, I'm surprised nobody is talking about this, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Shaw or Woodcroft are being fired, just that one assistant is being added. Ridiculous.

and that scares the crap outta me

sharski 06-20-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChompChomp (Post 51128677)
Sadly, I'm surprised nobody is talking about this, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Shaw or Woodcroft are being fired, just that one assistant is being added. Ridiculous. :shakehead

it makes no sense to me for DW to tell the media "the PK was awful, it has to get better"... then bring back the guy who ran the PK... that kind of lack of accountability trickles down to the players, and we saw that on the ice this past year

if Woodcroft was such an amazing video guy and a crappy AC... I don't see what's wrong with just demoting him back down to video guy... if his pride won't accept that, then DW shouldn't hesitate to part ways and wish him luck elsewhere

sharkbite3 06-20-2012 01:28 PM

Hedi/Marchment
Hedi/Ricci
Ricci/Marchment

ChompChomp 06-20-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sharski (Post 51135371)
it makes no sense to me for DW to tell the media "the PK was awful, it has to get better"... then bring back the guy who ran the PK... that kind of lack of accountability trickles down to the players, and we saw that on the ice this past year
if Woodcroft was such an amazing video guy and a crappy AC... I don't see what's wrong with just demoting him back down to video guy... if his pride won't accept that, then DW shouldn't hesitate to part ways and wish him luck elsewhere

Welcome to DW's world. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he simply decides to add another coach to "solve certain issues," but neither Shaw or Woodcroft is let go. In fact, that pretty much is the official party line to date. And I too am scared at that prospect.

wtfisthis 06-20-2012 01:57 PM

If Woodcroft and Shaw are coming back, it doesn't matter who they add, they will fail once again.

sharski 06-20-2012 02:04 PM

well, since it sounds like DW's answer to the coaching problem is to throw more people behind the bench rather than get good coaches...

next year's coaching staff:

Head Coach/Goaltenders Conditioning Coach:
https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...Db30iLZgmBDwwA

Assistant Coach specializing in Defense & PK & Resident Adobe Premiere Expert:
http://cdn.nhl.com/sharks/images/upl...dcroft_Jay.jpg

Assistant Coach specializing in Offense, PP and Timeouts in Critical Situations:
http://cdn.nhl.com/sharks/images/upl..._Shaw_Matt.jpg

Positive Thinking Coordinator:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/ho...ayers/1286.jpg

Facepalming-at-Obviously-Ineffective-Systems-and-Lack-of-Communication-While-Balancing-on-a-Milk-Crate Coordinator:
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-pho...ems-0DvK1U.jpg

Public Relations Badass in Charge of Challenging Members of the Media to a Fight Coordinator:
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/im...YL5jEPqppEwOWA

Motivational Speaker (contractor):
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...myiV354AzmM0uw

one2gamble 06-20-2012 02:07 PM

this honestly has fail written all over it

bob330i 06-20-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharski (Post 51135371)
if Woodcroft was such an amazing video guy and a crappy AC... I don't see what's wrong with just demoting him back down to video guy... if his pride won't accept that, then DW shouldn't hesitate to part ways and wish him luck elsewhere

QFT. I thought it was a mistake promoting Woodcroft to a behind the bench position.

Pass on Hedi, Ricci yes, Mush is a maybe.

210 06-20-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed (Post 51126641)
I'd say Cunniff (if they can get past the hard core Boston accent LOL)

There are times when I can hardly understand him his accent is so thick :laugh:

Pinkfloyd 06-20-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChompChomp (Post 51128677)
Sadly, I'm surprised nobody is talking about this, I haven't seen anything to suggest that Shaw or Woodcroft are being fired, just that one assistant is being added. Ridiculous. :shakehead

There's really no reason to fire any of them. Shaw isn't responsible for the PK. Woodcroft was. He can go back to the video room where he was successful prior to this promotion. There's nothing wrong with that and based on what is the responsibility of Matt Shaw, he didn't warrant a firing or a demotion.

ChompChomp 06-20-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd (Post 51145317)
There's really no reason to fire any of them. Shaw isn't responsible for the PK. Woodcroft was. He can go back to the video room where he was successful prior to this promotion. There's nothing wrong with that and based on what is the responsibility of Matt Shaw, he didn't warrant a firing or a demotion.

Well we can debate that of course, but I don't think we've even seen anything to suggest that Woodcroft is being sent back to his old videojob. All that we've been told is that one assistant is being added, that's it.

Karl with a C 06-20-2012 06:49 PM

I haven't been following things that closely this offseason so far: is it confirmed at all that our assistants are/are not returning? Are their contracts up? What phase is the process in? Thanks.

Oppa 06-20-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper Archetype (Post 51150037)
I haven't been following things that closely this offseason so far: is it confirmed at all that our assistants are/are not returning? Are their contracts up? What phase is the process in? Thanks.

no official word yet

TealManV 06-20-2012 07:00 PM

They were the best the first season with Todd, Richards, Yawn and Wood in the video role. They haven't been the same since. Wood needs to return to video. Shaw couldn't make proper adjustments and fill Richards' shoes. He is there because of his prior relationship with Todd.

I know we would all like to see Ricci or Marchment back but there are a few other guys with Sharks ties that I could see as options. I feel like DW is waiting to see what happens with Granato in Pitt. I would also talk with Vinny Damphousse, simply because of his hockey IQ, similar to Adam Oats' role with NJD. Also Mike Grier could be an interesting consideration because he comes from a background of coaches (his father and brother in the NFL) and has that work ethic we all feel the team has been missing.

I think the Devils staff that lead them to the finals is a great staff to mimic. A smart, young coach (Deboer - Todd). A crafty offensive minded coach (Oats - Vinny/Granato). And a classic defensive minded, gritty ex player (Larry Robinson - ?)

Also Ricci has said that he likes his position in the past because of the lack of travel and staying close to his family. I love Marchment but I don't think he has the right tools to improve our PK and inspire solid defensive play.

Thoughts?

Karl with a C 06-20-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kawaii (Post 51150137)
no official word yet

Thanks

sharski 06-20-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper Archetype (Post 51150037)
I haven't been following things that closely this offseason so far: is it confirmed at all that our assistants are/are not returning? Are their contracts up? What phase is the process in? Thanks.

my guess is that DW's got a list of AC candidates in mind, but can't talk to them until after July 1... I think he's got at least one AC in mind that will make Woodcroft/Shaw redundant, but if he doesn't land him, then Plan B is to keep Woodcroft+Shaw and just add another AC

either way, I think we'll find out in early July, once other teams' coachess contracts are up and there is a run on free agent coaches


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