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odishabs 06-23-2012 06:01 PM

'the future'
 
Quite Simple, in 2-5 years how does our lineup project? Certainly much brighter after today, opinions may vary, however I think we can all agree that our future is bright.


Max Pacioretty 'A' - Alex Galchenyuk - Brendan Gallagher

Louis LeBlanc - Tomas Plekanec 'A' - Sebastian Collberg

Tim Bozon - Lars Eller - (big body prospect)

(Big Body Prospect) - Michael Bournival - Ryan White

Josh Gorges 'C' - P.K. Subban

Nathan Beaulieu - Jared Tinordi

Dalton Thrower - Morgan Ellis

Carey Price

Joe Blow

MJG 06-23-2012 06:07 PM

I'm quite high on Joe Blow

MJG 06-23-2012 06:08 PM

Reverse him and Price and I'm a fan

Kobe Armstrong 06-23-2012 06:11 PM

Wow those lines look way better today than a week ago.:amazed: But I assume that you don't think that Emelin and Kristo are in our long term plans?

Coramoor 06-23-2012 06:15 PM

really, getting rid of desharnies, that guy has a great future

odishabs 06-23-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habsfan2772 (Post 51416457)
Wow those lines look way better today than a week ago.:amazed: But I assume that you don't think that Emelin and Kristo are in our long term plans?

i agree they do! Actually no, i just wasn't sure, Emelin is someone i would like to see having a future here, im just not sure where, with Thrower and Tinordi eventually in a habs uniform, i just see it as the changing of the guard, especially since they play similar games. As for Kristo, i believe guys like him and Holland will be in a competition with Collberg for a top 6 spot, bc i dont think either have the style to play on a third line.

odishabs 06-23-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coramoor (Post 51416685)
really, getting rid of desharnies, that guy has a great future

he just becomes expendable, with smaller players; Collberg and Gallagher on the wing it becomes harder to fit a 5'8 center in the mix. You never know though.

Dan K 06-23-2012 06:32 PM

I don't think this team is very good. Louis Leblanc to me is a third line player (but a good one there). Brendan Gallagher has a long way to go before playing on a team's first line.

Josh Gorges isn't a first pairing defenseman. Your D is also missing Alexei Emelin who I don't expect gone in "2-5 years."

There are some good prospects in the system, but it still needs outside help to be a competitive team.

googlymoogly 06-23-2012 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odishabs (Post 51415865)
Quite Simple, in 2-5 years how does our lineup project? Certainly much brighter after today, opinions may vary, however I think we can all agree that our future is bright.


Max Pacioretty 'A' - Alex Galchenyuk - Brendan Gallagher

Louis LeBlanc - Tomas Plekanec 'A' - Sebastian Collberg

Tim Bozon - Lars Eller - (big body prospect)Steve Quailer

Max Domi(Small Body Prospect) - Michael Bournival - Ryan White

Josh Gorges 'C' - P.K. Subban

Nathan Beaulieu - Jared Tinordi

Dalton Thrower - Morgan Ellis

Carey Price

Joe Blow

I got you covered

Coramoor 06-23-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odishabs (Post 51416987)
he just becomes expendable, with smaller players; Collberg and Gallagher on the wing it becomes harder to fit a 5'8 center in the mix. You never know though.

people care too much about size, and i know the canadiens have been undersized for a while, but you're looking at a player with potential upside of a martin st louis, him and pacioretty could be a tandem for years to come

SouthernHab 06-23-2012 06:38 PM

Bournival is not a 4th line player.

We tried that with Martin. Doesnt work just fitting in random guys on the 4th line.

Dan K 06-23-2012 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 51418069)
Bournival is not a 4th line player.

We tried that with Martin. Doesnt work just fitting in random guys on the 4th line.

What kind of player are you suggesting Bournival is? He projects as a third liner, but wouldn't be out of place on a fourth line which isn't based on gooning. If it's a hard-working, forechecking, cycling fourth line, then that's his game.

Valois 06-23-2012 06:45 PM

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Desharnais-Plekanec-Collberg
Bozon-Eller-Leblanc
Gorges-Enqvist-Subban

Weber-Campoli
Kaberle-Dame Malka
Fischer-Weak UFA

Jonas Gustavsson
Hal Gill


Sorry guys, I got bored halfway through and started tanking.

WeThreeKings 06-23-2012 07:20 PM

Joe Blow instead of Jean LeBleau?

#57 06-23-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your Canadiens (Post 51417731)
I don't think this team is very good. Louis Leblanc to me is a third line player (but a good one there). Brendan Gallagher has a long way to go before playing on a team's first line.

Josh Gorges isn't a first pairing defenseman. Your D is also missing Alexei Emelin who I don't expect gone in "2-5 years."

There are some good prospects in the system, but it still needs outside help to be a competitive team.

It always make me laugh when we make ''dream'' lineups and project these kids 5 years into the future and someone comes in and says ''this team sucks''

Seriously, those kids of 18-20 years old, of course this team looks bad. If everyone team in the NHL did this exercise, we'd have one of the deepest club on paper. The problem, as always, is a lack of a Crosby/Toews/Kopitar/Giroux superstar up front. Whether or not Galchenyuk becomes that guy is unknown yet.

Realistically though, if most of these prospects the OP listed reaches their potential, this club is going to be pretty good for a very long time. Louis Leblanc I find is very underrated, he's already showed he can play a role on a 3rd line in just his first stint in Montreal, how does he not project as a 2nd liner? You do know you don't need to score 80 pts to be a 2nd liner, right? Leblanc's package of speed, forechecking ability, physical tools and hands make him a great winger for a playmaking center.

As for Bournival, yes he projects as 3rd or 4th line player. His strenght is his forechecking abilities and work along the boards and below the hashmarks. He is also a tremendous PKer and a great skater. He is a strong guy with a lot of balance although not the biggest dude.

I think our future looks bright, to be honest. Most of our prospects have a lot of character and have passion as well as a great and unique skillsets. I see on our prospect list players that teams can win championships with.

JSBach 06-23-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odishabs (Post 51416987)
he just becomes expendable, with smaller players; Collberg and Gallagher on the wing it becomes harder to fit a 5'8 center in the mix. You never know though.

All I gotta say is thank God for Gallagher's size, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten him that low.

WeThreeKings 06-23-2012 08:14 PM

Is Didouche still around to do the board vote for our top prospects? If he isnt, I will gladly take over. Its a fun project that makes the summer without hockey not so long.

NotProkofievian 06-23-2012 08:20 PM

If they develop as their talent would allow, AG and Collberg I think could be a dynamite combination. Add in a guy like Patches, and that could be something. They're both such smart players with such deadly shots and great puck skills.

That's a combo that I could see being resilient against shut-down lines and top pairings, which has been a problem for us recently.

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 06-23-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeThreeKings (Post 51420457)
Joe Blow instead of Jean LeBleau?

:laugh: Awesome.

Also Leblanc won't play LW. Tinordi is a lefty as well.

SOLR 06-23-2012 08:37 PM

I'm thinking. (In 3 years, after Cole/Moen/Gionta)

In front:

Maxpac - Galchenyuk - Collberg
A - Eller - Gallagher
B - Pleks - Leblanc
C - White - D

A: Acquire or Kristo / Bournival / Bozon / Hudon (Some in unnatural position)
B: Acquire
C. Acquire or Vail / Dumont etc
D. Acquire

Quick Analysis: We need to acquire a great talent on the left wing or at least someone good to replace Moen when he's done and then hope one of the prospect will come in.

Back End

Tinordi - Subban
Beaulieu - Markov
Gorges - Thrower
Emelin - Ellis


Quick analysis: The day we have Gorges on the 3rd pairing = win. Markov can possibly play for a long time with a reduced role behind Subban.

G
Carey Price
Fucale (lol I kid I kid)

Quick analysis: We need to get some talent behind Price asap.

hogtownhabsfan* 06-23-2012 08:41 PM

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Eller-Desharnais-Collberg
Bournival-Leblanc-Holland
White-Schultz

Tinordi-Subban
Emelin-Gorges
Beaulieu-Ellis/Thrower

Price

76ftw 06-23-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeThreeKings (Post 51420457)
Joe Blow instead of Jean LeBleau?

your hatred for quebecois players is really annoying dude.

WeThreeKings 06-23-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76ftw (Post 51424819)
your hatred for quebecois players is really annoying dude.

I have a hatred for the Quebecois media. Have not one thing against the players themselves. It is not their fault they have a brain dead media who constantly berate any decision that doesn't fit their idea of an entire team of... "pure laine quebecois".

76ftw 06-23-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeThreeKings (Post 51425341)
I have a hatred for the Quebecois media. Have not one thing against the players themselves. It is not their fault they have a brain dead media who constantly berate any decision that doesn't fit their idea of an entire team of... "pure laine quebecois".

And at the same time, there's a lot of anglos who wouldn't be happy until we have an all anglo team with an all anglo coaching staff etc... Why can't we just admit that the Franco factor is important to a lot of fans in Quebec? It's part of what makes the Habs special, it's what makes the 100 years that much more special is that the Habs are so much bigger to Quebec any sports team in NA are to their hosts so to speak. If we forget about the Habs as such a huge part of Quebec's culture and society we forget about what separates the Habs from every other pro sports franchise. You judge everything the Habs do in regards to a franco and I'm sure if Scott Bowman walked through the door you would criticize the move saying "they're just pandering to the French media! He speaks French,that's the only reason he got hired!"

The act is getting REALLY tiresome, we get it you don't like the French media and the pressure they apply, deal with it. I don't really like it too much either, but I've accepted that the Habs are bigger than this and that we can't just accept them as being a business, they are more than that in Quebec.

edit: that being said, we need to love each other a lot right now because who knows how long this joyous feeling will last!

NotProkofievian 06-23-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76ftw (Post 51428253)
And at the same time, there's a lot of anglos who wouldn't be happy until we have an all anglo team with an all anglo coaching staff etc...

Like who?


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