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BlueBaron 06-23-2012 08:02 PM

Cap and free agency
 
Just went to CapGeek and they already have our trades factored out. Leafs have $12,946,667 in cap space needing to sign

Kuleman (RFA)
Frattin (RFA)
Crabb (UFA)
Rosehill (UFA)

Franson (RFA)

Currently under contract is 11 forward, 5 D, and 1 goalie.

I think the only one above we let walk is Rosehill. I'm thinking we can sign everyone for under 6 mil. If so that would leave us a big chunk of change for either Luongo or a FA or even both if we send salery back to Vancouver or send Lombardi to the Marlies. I'm curious how much money people see the above going for and what we would do with the remaining space ? I don;t think there is anything at center available is there ? Maybe an elite penalty kill/leader type with size ?

Grant 06-23-2012 08:06 PM

Kuleman (RFA) 2.5 - 3
Frattin (RFA) 2
Crabb (UFA) 1.5
Rosehill (UFA) 1

Franson (RFA) 1.5 but I'm not convinced he will be with the leafs this coming season.

Kessely Snipes 06-23-2012 08:53 PM

We need to wait and see what happens via trade before we start crunching numbers. I have a feeling prices are going to be so high July 1st, that we don't do very much in terms of ufas.

Brown Dog 06-23-2012 08:59 PM

I'm usually a believer in being active in UFA--for the obvious reason that it allows you to acquire players for nothing more than money (not mine) and cap space.

But this seems like a good year not to get involved. It's a pretty thin crop, we aren't likely to improve significantly with one or two UFA additions, and after next season we'll have all kinds of contracts coming off the books to take a run at some of the more enticing free agents of the 2013 crop. Better off sitting on the sidelines this time around.

cup67 06-23-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant123 (Post 51422511)
Kuleman (RFA) 2.5 - 3
Frattin (RFA) 2
Crabb (UFA) 1.5
Rosehill (UFA) 1

Franson (RFA) 1.5 but I'm not convinced he will be with the leafs this coming season.

kulimun is worth more than JVR, 4.25 MIL

Calacatz 06-23-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant123 (Post 51422511)
Kuleman (RFA) 2.5 - 3
Frattin (RFA) 2
Crabb (UFA) 1.5
Rosehill (UFA) 1

Franson (RFA) 1.5 but I'm not convinced he will be with the leafs this coming season.

LMFAO! Dude Rosehill 500k or hes prob not even gonna get an offer. Frattin 1 mil and he would cream. Crabb 800k

You are soo off man. Kuli will prob get 3 because of the off season. If I were Burke I would do a 3 yr/9mil

Hero 06-23-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kessely Snipes (Post 51424813)
We need to wait and see what happens via trade before we start crunching numbers. I have a feeling prices are going to be so high July 1st, that we don't do very much in terms of ufas.

Schultz, Suter, Parros/Prust, Gaustad

Lupul - ____ - Kessel
JVR - Grabo - Kulie
Kadri - Gaustad - Frattin
Brown - Steckle - Parros/Prust

Suter - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Schultz
Gunnarsson - Holzer

Drop....

Liles/Komisarek/Franson
Bozak/MacArthur/Connolly/Lombardi/Armstrong/Rosehill/Crabb

Liles, Franson, TyBo, MacA all have value though.

Boom!

smoke meat pete* 06-23-2012 10:53 PM

You can go 10% over in the offseason, so no concerns. The only guys to target are Suter, Parise and Schultz.

FTR: Capgeek and hockeydb did a great job updating information quickly through the draft.

ALine 06-23-2012 11:10 PM

No way Parros gets signed with Orr still in the organization. Huge slap in the face to bring in another fighter, especially considering how much Burke respects Orr. Still one of the best HW in the league. I have a suspicion Carlyle will make use of him much more than Wilson ever did. Although Burke should target some good, big, energy guys (among other things)

I think it will be something like:
Kulimen - 5.5 million (2.75 X 2yr)
Frattin - 2.4 Million (1.2 X 2yr)
Crabb - 1 million (1 x 1yr) *one way, i think he has shown managment he dererves it
Rosehill - 800k NHL Salary, will be two way
Franson 4 million (2 X 2yr)

Blaylock38 06-24-2012 12:12 PM

I do like how crabb played this season, is he a factor or do the leafs let him walk?

Im Old Gregggg 06-24-2012 12:27 PM

Kuleman (RFA) 2.5m short term "prove yourself" contract, allows him to get a 4m contract if his offense rebounds
Frattin (RFA) 1.5m 3yr contract
Crabb (UFA) see ya
Rosehill (UFA) see ya

Franson (RFA) maybe sign him to a 1.75m 1yr, and prob trade sometime this season

Dr Swag 06-24-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cup67 (Post 51429931)
kulimun is worth more than JVR, 4.25 MIL

oh cup67 u so crazy

Maximum Cheddar 06-24-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALine (Post 51431075)
No way Parros gets signed with Orr still in the organization. Huge slap in the face to bring in another fighter, especially considering how much Burke respects Orr. Still one of the best HW in the league. I have a suspicion Carlyle will make use of him much more than Wilson ever did. Although Burke should target some good, big, energy guys (among other things)

I think it will be something like:
Kulimen - 5.5 million (2.75 X 2yr)
Frattin - 2.4 Million (1.2 X 2yr)
Crabb - 1 million (1 x 1yr) *one way, i think he has shown managment he dererves it
Rosehill - 800k NHL Salary, will be two way
Franson 4 million (2 X 2yr)

Speaking of Orr I wonder if the new skating coach can get him back to the NHL. Everyone said the big knock against him was that he was to slow.

Ricky Bobby 06-24-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brown Dog (Post 51425077)
I'm usually a believer in being active in UFA--for the obvious reason that it allows you to acquire players for nothing more than money (not mine) and cap space.

But this seems like a good year not to get involved. It's a pretty thin crop, we aren't likely to improve significantly with one or two UFA additions, and after next season we'll have all kinds of contracts coming off the books to take a run at some of the more enticing free agents of the 2013 crop. Better off sitting on the sidelines this time around.

Sounds to me like someone gets why signing Beauchemin, Connolly, CMac, Connolly, Armstrong, Bozak and Komisarek all made sense as well as trading for Lombardi.

Capspace can't ever be carried forward from a previous year and the Leafs are a team that should always spend to the cap.

hullsy47 06-24-2012 01:01 PM

isnt shultz a free agent before jult 1st? just curious

diceman934 06-24-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALine (Post 51431075)
No way Parros gets signed with Orr still in the organization. Huge slap in the face to bring in another fighter, especially considering how much Burke respects Orr. Still one of the best HW in the league. I have a suspicion Carlyle will make use of him much more than Wilson ever did. Although Burke should target some good, big, energy guys (among other things)

I think it will be something like:
Kulimen - 5.5 million (2.75 X 2yr)
Frattin - 2.4 Million (1.2 X 2yr)
Crabb - 1 million (1 x 1yr) *one way, i think he has shown managment he dererves it
Rosehill - 800k NHL Salary, will be two way
Franson 4 million (2 X 2yr)


I can not see Rosehill being resigned.

I like the other numbers.

Erza Scarlet 06-24-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hullsy47 (Post 51450447)
isnt shultz a free agent before jult 1st? just curious

we can negotiate, but we can't sign him.


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