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Leafs For Life* 06-25-2012 01:13 PM

What is our line-up for the future?
 
Basically all of LACK will be gone after the season's end so that opens up 4 spots. I see CMac getting dealt at the trade deadline also so thats 5.

Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabovski-Kadri
Kulemin-Colborne-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Komarov

Phaneuf-Gunnarsson
Gardiner-Schultz/Liles
Liles/Komisarek-Franson

Reimer
Scrivens

Upcoming Defence: Blacker, Percy, Holzer, Rielly
Upcoming Forwards
LW: Ross, Leivo, D'Amigo, Mueller
C: Colborne, McKegg, Abbot, Crescenzi
RW: Ashton, Biggs, Ryan , Scott

And how does this line-up fit Carlyle's system? If he goes for a pure checking, defensive team he is **** out of luck but I see it working if we employ a puck-posession strategy in a Detroit form.

MrLegend28 06-25-2012 01:19 PM

LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW

LD - RD
LD - RD
LD - RD

G
G

something like that

Hero 06-25-2012 01:20 PM

Look at the "Future line up threads" of last season and you'll see something completely different than now.

One of the future line up threads after the lock out had Wellwood as our consensus #1 C, Tlustly on his wing and Stajan as the lock for number 2 C.

So disclaimer aside.

If we never trade/sign and everyone devlopes in a few years

Lupul - Kadri - Kessel
JVR - Grabo - Frattin
Ashton - Colborne - Kulie
Biggs - Ross - D'Amigo/Mueller

Rielly - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Blacker
Percy - Holzer

Scrivens
Reimer

Thee Implication 06-25-2012 01:21 PM

I don't want to see Franson being scratched so often.
If we do not get a goalie I wouldn't be overly mad watching Reimer and Scrivens tag team. I feel very confident in them, I remember when I was on the tank bandwagon Scrivens kept winning us games and I was like fuuuuck play Gus

Leafs For Life* 06-25-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedsToronto (Post 51498575)
I don't want to see Franson being scratched so often.
If we do not get a goalie I wouldn't be overly mad watching Reimer and Scrivens tag team. I feel very confident in them, I remember when I was on the tank bandwagon Scrivens kept winning us games and I was like fuuuuck play Gus

I was on the temporary "Play Rynnas" bandwagon. :laugh:

JMcLeaf 06-25-2012 01:29 PM

I doubt it will be this but based on what we have in the system now:

Lupul-xxxxx-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Kadri
D'Amigo-McKegg-Frattin
Ross-xxxxx-Biggs

Rielly-Phaneuf
Gardiner-Percy
Blacker-Finn

Scrivens
Reimer/Owuya

Trades will obviously be made because I think Biggs and Ross will be better than 4th liners.

BlueBaron 06-25-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaffan16 (Post 51498157)
Basically all of LACK will be gone after the season's end so that opens up 4 spots. I see CMac getting dealt at the trade deadline also so thats 5.

Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabovski-Kadri
Kulemin-Colborne-Frattin
Brown-Steckel-Komarov

Phaneuf-Gunnarsson
Gardiner-Schultz/Liles
Liles/Komisarek-Franson

Reimer
Scrivens

Upcoming Defence: Blacker, Percy, Holzer, Rielly
Upcoming Forwards
LW: Ross, Leivo, D'Amigo, Mueller
C: Colborne, McKegg, Abbot, Crescenzi
RW: Ashton, Biggs, Ryan , Scott

And how does this line-up fit Carlyle's system? If he goes for a pure checking, defensive team he is **** out of luck but I see it working if we employ a puck-posession strategy in a Detroit form.

That looks pretty close, but I have to think Bozak gets swapped for someone with size, long term. Gunnarson probably should probabaly be upgraded too. I have to say though, I like our group, I think we are getting close.

SnipeCheeseAllDay 06-25-2012 01:36 PM

Lupul - XXX - Kessel
JVR - Grabovski - Kulemin
Frattin - Kadri - Biggs
Brown - XXX - Ross
-D'Amigo/Ashton/Colborne

Rielly - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Schultz (?)
Finn - Blacker
-Percy/Finn

Aplayaz2000 06-25-2012 01:39 PM

yeah fantasy world
our farm team plays up front!

hehe...
i mean can Kadri even make the team
FFS hope he does
what about Colborne? he failed pre-season last year

fratty has the most chance

Suntouchable13 06-25-2012 01:44 PM

If Bozak is our number 1c for the long term, oh boy.

Leafs For Life* 06-25-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suntouchable13 (Post 51499907)
If Bozak is our number 1c for the long term, oh boy.

Come on dude, we all know it's Mackinnon;)

Kessely Snipes 06-25-2012 01:55 PM

I'm not sure how I would personally predict the line up. I mean we can talk about our prospects developing, but who knows when it comes to trades, free agency etc.

Ricky Bobby 06-25-2012 01:57 PM

Gone before the 2013-14 season:

CMac (unless Kadri is traded in a package deal)
Franson

Most likely gone but slight possibility they're brought back at a reduced rate:

Connolly
Lombardi
Armstrong

Shak19 06-25-2012 01:58 PM

21 pylons

Leafs For Life* 06-25-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shak19 (Post 51500689)
21 pylons

Even though it is 20. 12+6+2

Thee Implication 06-25-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaffan16 (Post 51498717)
I was on the temporary "Play Rynnas" bandwagon. :laugh:

Ahaha forgot about that. Poor guy got lit up

MillBOT 06-25-2012 02:37 PM

In a perfect world our prospects develop well and we have some big bodies in the line-up. I can see the forward group working well under Carlyle's system, but we do have glaring holes up the middle. Eventually this problem will be addressed. Mobility from the back end is an asset, but they lack the truculence Burke preaches.

Van Riemsdyk Unknown Kessel
Kadri Colborne Ashton
Ross Unknown Biggs
Brown Unknown Ryan
Komarov

Rielly Phaneuf
Gardiner Unknown **Hopefully Schultz for a dynamic top 4
Percy Finn
Blacker

Unknown
Reimer **Potentially a starter goalie.

Hotlanta 06-25-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMcLeaf (Post 51499015)
I doubt it will be this but based on what we have in the system now:

Lupul-xxxxx-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Kadri
D'Amigo-McKegg-Frattin
Ross-xxxxx-Biggs

Rielly-Phaneuf
Gardiner-Percy
Blacker-Finn

Scrivens
Reimer/Owuya

Trades will obviously be made because I think Biggs and Ross will be better than 4th liners.

Two of Ross, D'amigo, McKegg & Biggs will be 3rd line material, two will most likely not make the NHL.
Where is Kulemin, Gunnarsson, and Bozak? All are serviceable players that have higher possibilities then some of these guys to be on this team long term.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel (Bozak becomes expendable or 3rd line centre if we get a first line centre)
JVR - Grabovski - Kadri/Frattin
Kulemin - Colborne - Biggs
Ross - XXXX - Brown/Ashton

Phaneuf - Reilly
Gardiner - Percy/Blacker
Gunnarsson - Franson/Holzer

Big fan of McKegg but I believe him & D'amigo will not to translate their skills to the NHL

Leafs For Life* 06-25-2012 02:43 PM

Does anyone else notice that Phaneuf looks really out of the type of D line-up we have/will have now?

Four1 Lead 06-25-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLegend28 (Post 51498445)
LW - LW - RW
C - C - RW
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW

LD - LD
LD - RD
LD - RD

G
G

something like that

Fixed.

Pyromaniac3 06-25-2012 02:46 PM

Kulemin-xxxxx-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Kadri
Biggs-Colborne-Frattin
Ross-Komarov-D'amigo

Phaneuf-Rielly
Gardiner-Percy
Gunnarsson-Franson

JMcLeaf 06-25-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotlanta (Post 51503443)
Two of Ross, D'amigo, McKegg & Biggs will be 3rd line material, two will most likely not make the NHL.
Where is Kulemin, Gunnarsson, and Bozak? All are serviceable players that have higher possibilities then some of these guys to be on this team long term.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel (Bozak becomes expendable or 3rd line centre if we get a first line centre)
JVR - Grabovski - Kadri/Frattin
Kulemin - Colborne - Biggs
Ross - XXXX - Brown/Ashton

Phaneuf - Reilly
Gardiner - Percy/Blacker
Gunnarsson - Franson/Holzer

Big fan of McKegg but I believe him & D'amigo will not to translate their skills to the NHL

If Bozak is in our long-term plans as the number 1 center then we are going to have problems. If it's as 3rd line center then fine.

I hope Kulie is still around because he's probably my 2nd favourite forward on the team, but I just have this feeling he will be traded eventually.

Same feeling on Gunnar. He is a very solid dman but we will (hopefully) have a lot of depth at the d position in the future so eventually some will have to be moved. I could see him being one of the players moved. Id be happy to keep him though.

I think D'Amigo has what it takes to make it as at least a 3rd liner. Im not sure on McKegg yet though.

Four1 Lead 06-25-2012 02:53 PM

Joffrey Lupul - Joe Colborne - Phil Kessel
James van Riemsdyk - Mikhail Grabovski - Matt Frattin
Nikolai Kulemin - Nazem Kadri - Tyler Biggs
Jerry D'Amigo - Leo Komarov - Bradley Ross
Mike Brown

Morgan Rielly - Dion Phaneuf
Jake Gardiner - Justin Schultz
Stuart Percy - Matthew Finn
Korbinian Holzer


Traded:
Clarke MacArthur
Tyler Bozak
Carter Ashton
Colby Armstrong
David Steckel
Carl Gunnarsson
J-M Liles
Cody Franson
Jesse Blacker

Free agency:
Matthew Lombardi
Tim Connolly
Mike Komisarek

smoke meat pete* 06-25-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLegend28 (Post 51498445)
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW
LW - C - RW

LD - RD
LD - RD
LD - RD

G
G

something like that

LF-RF
LF-RF
LF-RF
LF-RF

LD-CLD-CRD-RD
LD-CLD-CRD-RD
LD-CLD-CRD-RD

2 forwards, 4 defenceman, no Goalies. It's called an Italian Defence.

Hotlanta 06-25-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMcLeaf (Post 51503993)
If Bozak is in our long-term plans as the number 1 center then we are going to have problems. If it's as 3rd line center then fine.

I hope Kulie is still around because he's probably my 2nd favourite forward on the team, but I just have this feeling he will be traded eventually.

Same feeling on Gunnar. He is a very solid dman but we will (hopefully) have a lot of depth at the d position in the future so eventually some will have to be moved. I could see him being one of the players moved. Id be happy to keep him though.

I think D'Amigo has what it takes to make it as at least a 3rd liner. Im not sure on McKegg yet though.

I think Liles, Gunnarson, Franson, MacArthur, & Kadri become expendable for the right pieces if Biggs, Frattin, Ross, Holzer, Percy, Blacker & Reilly pan out.


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