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ilikeblocks 06-28-2012 12:02 PM

Should the Preds target Mueller?
 
The guy oozes talent, could be a top two line forward, but he's hampered by injuries. Could the preds take a chance on him? He screams preds reclamation project to me.

alexmanu 06-28-2012 12:17 PM

Yes I totally think we should go for him and I think there's a decent chance Poile is interested in the guy.

Top 6 Spaling 06-28-2012 12:52 PM

Absolutely, no questions asked.

AtlantaWhaler 06-28-2012 12:56 PM

IMO, If ownership is really committed to spending and bringing in big pieces, I'd rather throw cash at Doan. Otherwise, I'd rather give one of our young kids a chance. IMO, Mueller just takes up a needed roster spot.

Top 6 Spaling 06-28-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaWhaler (Post 51663401)
IMO, If ownership is really committed to spending and bringing in big pieces, I'd rather throw cash at Doan. Otherwise, I'd rather give one of our young kids a chance. IMO, Mueller just takes up a needed roster spot.

And what happens when Parise wants to stay in the East and Doan wants to play in the Pacific Division to stay close to his family.

Mueller is a textbook rehabiliation project. Low risk, high reward.

TootooTrain 06-28-2012 01:09 PM

Either him or Latendress. I think both are excellent buy low candidates.

More interested in Latendress, only because Mueller's success is in a relatively limited sample size but both have great offensive potential.

glenngineer 06-28-2012 02:11 PM

No. While I have thought that low risk high reward was a smart move in the past, this year we need to make an impact. No more being silly or hoping people pan out. We need proven commodities, ones that we know will produce. This will send a message to Suter and Weber that we are players, not hoping guys pan out.

Top 6 Spaling 06-28-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by glenngineer (Post 51668147)
No. While I have thought that low risk high reward was a smart move in the past, this year we need to make an impact. No more being silly or hoping people pan out. We need proven commodities, ones that we know will produce. This will send a message to Suter and Weber that we are players, not hoping guys pan out.

I agree we need to try as hard as possible for Doan/Parise/Ryan/Whitney/etc., but I have no problem with brining in Mueller as an extra piece.

If he is our headline signing, that wouldn't be good. If we sign/trade for a big name PLUS bring in Mueller, I'm happy.

MrJoshua 06-28-2012 02:20 PM

I'm not really interested in sending a message to Weber and Suter. This is a solid team that makes the playoffs regularly, has made the conference semi-finals two years in a row and is on the cusp of going from really good to great. If that combined with a competitive contract offer isn't enough to keep them on the team, then good riddance. They can go somewhere else and find out that the grass isn't always greener. Poile needs to be making decisions based on the needs of the team as a whole, not on what he thinks might make Suter or Weber happy.

glenngineer 06-28-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJoshua (Post 51668713)
I'm not really interested in sending a message to Weber and Suter. This is a solid team that makes the playoffs regularly, has made the conference semi-finals two years in a row and is on the cusp of going from really good to great. If that combined with a competitive contract offer isn't enough to keep them on the team, then good riddance. They can go somewhere else and find out that the grass isn't always greener. Poile needs to be making decisions based on the needs of the team as a whole, not on what he thinks might make Suter or Weber happy.

LOL. Cusp of good to great? Really? How so?

MrJoshua 06-28-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by glenngineer (Post 51668981)
LOL. Cusp of good to great? Really? How so?

They make the playoffs regularly, and are a piece or two away from being Cup contenders. How else would you describe that? How many teams would you say are definitely better? Nashville is certainly in the top third of the league, which I would call very good, and they don't need a lot of tweaking to move into the top handful of teams.

luckofirish8 06-28-2012 03:30 PM

Suter played Polie and he tried/trying to play the Nashville fan base. If he resigns with Nashville, then I'm wrong and will fully admit it to anyone and everyone. Suter is still saying the same **** he was spouting off months ago. The day Suter didn't sign would have been the day he hit the wire. Same goes for Weber this season. Smaller market teams (like ourselves) can not afford to let guys this talented just walk away without getting something worth wild in return.

Back on topic...Mueller is someone I hope they target. Like others have said, its a low risk high reward move depending on the price.

Iron Duke 06-28-2012 03:35 PM

Perhaps for a low price as a SK/Bergfors type reclamation project, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Both him and Latendresse have had injury issues, and there are questions of work ethic and laziness hanging over both players.

Iron Duke 06-28-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by luckofirish8 (Post 51673751)
Suter played Polie and he tried/trying to play the Nashville fan base. If he resigns with Nashville, then I'm wrong and will fully admit it to anyone and everyone. Suter is still saying the same **** he was spouting off months ago. The day Suter didn't sign would have been the day he hit the wire. Same goes for Weber this season. Smaller market teams (like ourselves) can not afford to let guys this talented just walk away without getting something worth wild in return.

Back on topic...Mueller is someone I hope they target. Like others have said, its a low risk high reward move depending on the price.

While this is true, it is also the case that teams that hope to be truly competitive and aspire to a Cup do not trade away star players simply because they might lose them for nothing. Doing so only sends the message that the team lacks faith in its ability to retain quality talent, which should deter any player serious about winning from signing here.

The Infamous Tank 06-28-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Duke (Post 51674183)
Perhaps for a low price as a SK/Bergfors type reclamation project, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Both him and Latendresse have had injury issues, and there are questions of work ethic and laziness hanging over both players.

Avs fan here Mueller won't ever be confused with the Callahans of the world, but after being out for a whole year he really worked hard got into shape and bulked up to protect himself. He would be a good fourth liner in nashville and has a great point shot for the 2nd PP(if Ellis doesn't make the team outta camp).

Iron Duke 06-28-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Infamous Tank (Post 51678541)
Avs fan here Mueller won't ever be confused with the Callahans of the world, but after being out for a whole year he really worked hard got into shape and bulked up to protect himself. He would be a good fourth liner in nashville and has a great point shot for the 2nd PP(if Ellis doesn't make the team outta camp).

It's good to hear, and I hope he can stay healthy, but I just don't see him fitting here. I don't think he's physical/active enough to fill a bottom 6 role under Trotz, alongside the likes of Yip, Halischuk, Bourque and Spaling and I don't see him as a sure-enough thing to sign as a top 6 forward. Would love to be proven wrong though.

adsfan 06-28-2012 09:29 PM

I thought this tread was about Chris Mueller. Last season, 73 games, 32 G and 28 A, #18 in AHL scoring for Milwaukee. Couldn't care less about the other guy.

Paranoid Android 06-28-2012 10:01 PM

SK already fills the soft, streaky, reclamation project quota for us. No thanks. He'll be overpaid and not worth the hassle. I do love his upside though, he's just too risky for me.

If he wants to come here, and leaves money on the table then sure, sign him. But I see him either getting paid too much, or going to a proven contender as secondary (or thirdary? lol) scoring.

PredsV82 06-28-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 51696035)
SK already fills the soft, streaky, reclamation project quota for us. No thanks. He'll be overpaid and not worth the hassle. I do love his upside though, he's just too risky for me.

If he wants to come here, and leaves money on the table then sure, sign him. But I see him either getting paid too much, or going to a proven contender as secondary (or thirdary? lol) scoring.

poile signs one every summer, plus a waiver pickup in season

in 10-11, the reclamation project(SK) worked and the waiver acquisition(Svatos) didn't

this year, the reclamation project(Bergfors) didn't stick but the waiver pickup (Yip) did..


(and the term for "third level" is "tertiary":D)

Paranoid Android 06-28-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PredsV82 (Post 51698009)
poile signs one every summer, plus a waiver pickup in season

in 10-11, the reclamation project(SK) worked and the waiver acquisition(Svatos) didn't

this year, the reclamation project(Bergfors) didn't stick but the waiver pickup (Yip) did..


(and the term for "third level" is "tertiary":D)

Yeah, I fully expect to see a low salary project player brought in, like the ones you listed. But I see Mueller asking for much more than league minimum. Like upwards of $2M. That's just too rich for a project player with concussion issues. Maybe I'm way off :dunno:

And thanks, I'm terrible with words lol

luckofirish8 06-29-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Duke (Post 51674481)
While this is true, it is also the case that teams that hope to be truly competitive and aspire to a Cup do not trade away star players simply because they might lose them for nothing. Doing so only sends the message that the team lacks faith in its ability to retain quality talent, which should deter any player serious about winning from signing here.

While I get what you are saying, the truth is we really haven't retained "top" talent in the past. Albeit a very small sample size. So, the other option is to reload with young talent. Polie not being able to get Suter to resign is only part of the problem. IMO (and that's all it is), Polie has failed miserably in his handling of Suter. I could be 100% wrong, and Suter resigns at some point in the near future. I'm just not holding my breath.

Shea Weber 06-29-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJoshua (Post 51668713)
I'm not really interested in sending a message to Weber and Suter. This is a solid team that makes the playoffs regularly, has made the conference semi-finals two years in a row and is on the cusp of going from really good to great. If that combined with a competitive contract offer isn't enough to keep them on the team, then good riddance. They can go somewhere else and find out that the grass isn't always greener. Poile needs to be making decisions based on the needs of the team as a whole, not on what he thinks might make Suter or Weber happy.

well said.


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