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baldrick 06-29-2012 10:44 AM

If gomez stays
 
Alot of the talk regarding lineups for next season assume that Gomez will no longer
be with the team.What if Gomez isn't traded or sent down? What is the projected lineup and possible player movement?

llamateizer 06-29-2012 10:50 AM

there is more chance seeing him back than not

Monctonscout 06-29-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewBACHa (Post 51714311)
there is more chance seeing him back than not

Maybe in a parallel universe, but not this one.

Deep Gorges 06-29-2012 10:51 AM

no chance he stays

PunkinDrublic* 06-29-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewBACHa (Post 51714311)
there is more chance seeing him back than not

And i wouldn't mind seeing him play under MT. But i must be a very lonely person aboard my boat.

EmelinHipCheck 06-29-2012 12:47 PM

Here's what i would do. This took me some time and research, but it's the way i would like it, so please, be easy :D
Bury Gomez in Hamilton, free up 7.36 M. on the cap
Sign Jim Slater, 2 years, 1.1 M, 1.1 M
Sign P.A. Parenteau, 3 years, 3 M, 2.5 M, 2 M
Sign Brandon Prust, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Travis Moen, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Alexei Emelin, 3 years, 2 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign P.K. Subban, 4 years, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M
Sign Frederic St-Denis, 1 year, 1.1 M
Sign Cory Sarich, 4 years, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M
Sign Carey Price, 6 years, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M
Bury Leblanc, Palushaj and Geoffrion in Hamilton
Trade Weber and Diaz for picks.
According to cap geek, 63.67 M on the cap.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Parenteau - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Bourque
Prust - Slater - White
Nokelainen

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Sarich
St-Denis

Price
Budaj

overlords 06-29-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLiveTheKing (Post 51720985)
Here's what i would do. This took me some time and research, but it's the way i would like it, so please, be easy :D
Bury Gomez in Hamilton, free up 7.36 M. on the cap
Sign Jim Slater, 2 years, 1.1 M, 1.1 M
Sign P.A. Parenteau, 3 years, 3 M, 2.5 M, 2 M
Sign Brandon Prust, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Travis Moen, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Alexei Emelin, 3 years, 2 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign P.K. Subban, 4 years, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M
Sign Frederic St-Denis, 1 year, 1.1 M
Sign Cory Sarich, 4 years, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M
Sign Carey Price, 6 years, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M
Bury Leblanc, Palushaj and Geoffrion in Hamilton
Trade Weber and Diaz for picks.
According to cap geek, 63.67 M on the cap.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Parenteau - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Bourque
Prust - Slater - White
Nokelainen

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Sarich
St-Denis

Price
Budaj

No way Parenteau signs for that much. No way. Also, Slater isn't a free agent, and neither is Sarich ;)

PunkinDrublic* 06-29-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLiveTheKing (Post 51720985)
Here's what i would do. This took me some time and research, but it's the way i would like it, so please, be easy :D
Bury Gomez in Hamilton, free up 7.36 M. on the cap
Sign Jim Slater, 2 years, 1.1 M, 1.1 M
Sign P.A. Parenteau, 3 years, 3 M, 2.5 M, 2 M
Sign Brandon Prust, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Travis Moen, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Alexei Emelin, 3 years, 2 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign P.K. Subban, 4 years, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M
Sign Frederic St-Denis, 1 year, 1.1 M
Sign Cory Sarich, 4 years, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M
Sign Carey Price, 6 years, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M
Bury Leblanc, Palushaj and Geoffrion in Hamilton
Trade Weber and Diaz for picks.
According to cap geek, 63.67 M on the cap.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Parenteau - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Bourque
Prust - Slater - White
Nokelainen

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Sarich
St-Denis

Price
Budaj

Sarich is playing in Calgary in 2012/2013.

EmelinHipCheck 06-29-2012 12:52 PM

Bryan Allen instead of Sarich then. And according to the UFA lists, Slater is one !

odishabs 06-29-2012 12:55 PM

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Ott - Eller - LeBlanc
Moen - McClement - White

Dharvey33 06-29-2012 01:02 PM

Parenteau will easily get 4 m on the UFA depends who will pay for him. 29 year old playmaker doesn't come by cheap i know he had a breakout season but the guy is good.

overlords 06-29-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLiveTheKing (Post 51721235)
Bryan Allen instead of Sarich then. And according to the UFA lists, Slater is one !

http://capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=350

EmelinHipCheck 06-29-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 51722037)

Ah ben ********.

Coach Brisebois* 06-29-2012 01:17 PM

Gomez will be a good top9 LW

Halifaxhab* 06-29-2012 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Brisebois (Post 51722685)
Gomez will be a good top9 LW

for the Alaska Aces

UniverStalinGraduate* 06-29-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongLiveTheKing (Post 51720985)
Here's what i would do. This took me some time and research, but it's the way i would like it, so please, be easy :D
Bury Gomez in Hamilton, free up 7.36 M. on the cap
Sign Jim Slater, 2 years, 1.1 M, 1.1 M
Sign P.A. Parenteau, 3 years, 3 M, 2.5 M, 2 M
Sign Brandon Prust, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Travis Moen, 3 years, 2.5 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign Alexei Emelin, 3 years, 2 M, 2 M, 2 M
Sign P.K. Subban, 4 years, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M, 3.5 M
Sign Frederic St-Denis, 1 year, 1.1 M
Sign Cory Sarich, 4 years, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M, 4.5 M
Sign Carey Price, 6 years, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M, 6 M
Bury Leblanc, Palushaj and Geoffrion in Hamilton
Trade Weber and Diaz for picks.
According to cap geek, 63.67 M on the cap.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Parenteau - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Eller - Bourque
Prust - Slater - White
Nokelainen

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle - Sarich
St-Denis

Price
Budaj

Why do people even goto the trouble of making posts like this when their numbers are so unbelievably wrong? Parenteau is going to get 2.5 million a year for 3 years? In what world?

As for Corey Sarich...forgetting the fact that he just re-signed...did you actually propose giving him 4 years and 4.5 per year?

Have you ever seen him play? In what world is he worth anywhere remotely close to that?

Coach Brisebois* 06-29-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halifaxhab (Post 51729389)
for the Alaska Aces

in the NHL, for the Montreal Canadiens.

PunkinDrublic* 06-29-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Brisebois (Post 51730045)
in the NHL, for the Montreal Canadiens.

This ! Join me on my lonely boat.

Zorba 06-29-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YourBuddy (Post 51731261)
This ! Join me on my lonely boat.

C mon guys. Gomez has ZERO chance of returning. The franchise will be ridiculed for being cheap and not wanting to win if they bring him back. He was the old regimes biggest mistake , the new regime has to cut bait.
Most of the fans and media will turn quickly on Bergevin and CO if they keep Gomez and doesnt produce, which he wont because the guys skill set has diminished over the last 4 years. His point total have gone down consistently over those years. He has little to offer any team offensively

UniverStalinGraduate* 06-29-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 51731713)
C mon guys. Gomez has ZERO chance of returning. The franchise will be ridiculed for being cheap and not wanting to win if they bring him back. He was the old regimes biggest mistake , the new regime has to cut bait.
Most of the fans and media will turn quickly on Bergevin and CO if they keep Gomez and doesnt produce, which he wont because the guys skill set has diminished over the last 4 years. His point total have gone down consistently over those years. He has little to offer any team offensively

Unless the Habs make 1 or 2 big ticket UFA acquisitions or trades than they will have lots of cap space. Why send Gomez down just because?

Now if Doan and Latendresse sign...that's one thing.

I think it's 50/50 whether Gomez is with the Habs or not next year.

Monctonscout 06-29-2012 05:05 PM

Here is how the forwards look for next year at this point...

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Gionta-Plekanec-XXXXX
Bourque-Eller-Moen/XXXXX
White-Nokelainen-Moen/XXXXX plus XXXXX(13th)

Internal Candidates for the XXXXX spots...Geoffrion, Plaushaj(out of options), Dumont, LeBlanc(prefer him starting AHL)

Staubitz or another enforcer will probably get the 13th forward spot. 1 to 3 more NHL forwards to add.

Zorba 06-29-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniverStalinGraduate (Post 51734869)
Unless the Habs make 1 or 2 big ticket UFA acquisitions or trades than they will have lots of cap space. Why send Gomez down just because?

Now if Doan and Latendresse sign...that's one thing.

I think it's 50/50 whether Gomez is with the Habs or not next year.

Just because? two years ago he had an awful year and people said it was an anomaly and would bounce back. Then last year was even worse. Its not just because, its because he cant produce anymore and really has no position on this team. Where do you propose they fit him in? Please dont say move Eller to wing. Lets not hurt Ellers progression for Gomez. IMO he is done in Montreal and has ZERO percent chance of being back. If he is, this team is going backwards

UniverStalinGraduate* 06-29-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 51736239)
Just because? two years ago he had an awful year and people said it was an anomaly and would bounce back. Then last year was even worse. Its not just because, its because he cant produce anymore and really has no position on this team. Where do you propose they fit him in? Please dont say move Eller to wing. Lets not hurt Ellers progression for Gomez. IMO he is done in Montreal and has ZERO percent chance of being back. If he is, this team is going backwards

Again, they won't send him down/away "just because"

Even if Gomez is healthy for most of the year and puts up 35 points for the season that's contributions which need to be made from another player.

Given the option of playing Leblanc on Eller's wing or Gomez on Eller's wing for me personally it's easy. At least for the time being let LL play in the AHL and gain valuable experience.

The Habs won't allow Gomez' albatross contract to hinder them from making additions to the team, but if they dont' make any big time pick ups than the cap space will be there and then some.

Halifaxhab* 06-29-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorba (Post 51736239)
Just because? two years ago he had an awful year and people said it was an anomaly and would bounce back. Then last year was even worse. Its not just because, its because he cant produce anymore and really has no position on this team. Where do you propose they fit him in? Please dont say move Eller to wing. Lets not hurt Ellers progression for Gomez. IMO he is done in Montreal and has ZERO percent chance of being back. If he is, this team is going backwards

he's gone if there are reasonable players filling the top 9.

UniverStalinGraduate* 06-29-2012 05:25 PM

Staubitz won't be back next year according to Renaud Levoie


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