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heartsabres* 07-01-2012 10:19 AM

"No market for Roy"
 
Paul Hamilton says that there is no market for Roy, not one taker?


Believe it? Is Darcy overvaluing him or does no one want him?

I find this strange with the shortage of centers in the NHL...

BloFan4Life 07-01-2012 10:20 AM

Hamiliton needs to GTFO. He knows nothing.

Jame 07-01-2012 10:21 AM

correction:
there is a market for roy. however, the market regier expects to sell him in, and the market the buyers are shopping in... are on different sides of town.

Afino 07-01-2012 10:21 AM

Paul Gaustad: $3.25m cap hit

Derek Roy: $4m cap hit with an expiring contract.



Yeah, there's no market for Roy. :sarcasm:

joshjull 07-01-2012 10:21 AM

There is a difference between.."no market for Roy" and "no market for what Darcy wants for Roy"

I don't think Paul knows the difference

Jame 07-01-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshjull (Post 51819643)
There is a difference between.."no market for Roy" and "no market for what Darcy wants for Roy"

I don't think Paul knows the difference

exactly

Zip15 07-01-2012 10:25 AM

Paul's understanding of markets stops at Wegmans. There may be no market for the price at which Regier has attached to him. If I list my home for $500k, and I don't get any offers, that just means there's no market at that price. Regier is probably asking for more than anyone is currently willing to pay, but that doesn't mean there aren't teams who'd be happy to have him.

Rob Paxon 07-01-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartsabres (Post 51819491)
Paul Hamilton says that there is no market for Roy, not one taker?


Believe it? Is Darcy overvaluing him or does no one want him?

I find this strange with the shortage of centers in the NHL...

I don't believe it, because it's nonsense. As I said in another thread, if the Sabres offered him up for a 2nd nearly every team would have some interest.

If teams are interested, then there's a market. If Darcy is asking for too much, there's still a market, it's just below what Darcy is seeking. So I think Hamilton's a bit out there on this one, even if you throw semantics out of the window.

struckbyaparkedcar 07-01-2012 10:36 AM

He was passing off speculation as facts re: a lot of players early in the season (or at the very least, wording things in a way that blurred the line). What's the original context?

Rob Paxon 07-01-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 51819813)
Paul's understanding of markets stops at Wegmans. There may be no market for the price at which Regier has attached to him. If I list my home for $500k, and I don't get any offers, that just means there's no market at that price. Regier is probably asking for more than anyone is currently willing to pay, but that doesn't mean there aren't teams who'd be happy to have him.

Wish I read what you said first, I wouldn't have had to post anything but a ":laugh:"

Rob Paxon 07-01-2012 10:40 AM

Also, Darcy is smart to do exactly what we are inferring. See if anyone bites at the high price before lowering it, and let some teams strike out today before doing so.

Digable5 07-01-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 51819813)
Paul's understanding of markets stops at Wegmans. There may be no market for the price at which Regier has attached to him. If I list my home for $500k, and I don't get any offers, that just means there's no market at that price. Regier is probably asking for more than anyone is currently willing to pay, but that doesn't mean there aren't teams who'd be happy to have him.

And sometimes to everyone's surprise, someone will pay $500K (1st round pick) for a Motorola Razor (Gaustad) and a car charger (4th round pick).

Superhero 07-01-2012 10:49 AM

I believe Paul Hamilton is wrong.

I thought at the trade deadline Darcy Regier said that there were offers for Roy but they weren't as good of offers as they were for Gaustad.

joshjull 07-01-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superhero (Post 51821043)
I believe Paul Hamilton is wrong.

I thought at the trade deadline Darcy Regier said that there were offers for Roy but they weren't as good of offers as they were for Gaustad.

You're correct, he did say that.

SabresFanNorthPortFL 07-01-2012 10:58 AM

Let the dominos fall in the next couple of days, and then Roy will be moved. 'Can I fill my offensive hole through FA first?' 'nope, hello Darcy, what do you want for Roy again?!?!'

Rob Paxon 07-01-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabresFanNorthPortFL (Post 51821479)
Let the dominos fall in the next couple of days, and then Roy will be moved. 'Can I fill my offensive hole through FA first?' 'nope, hello Darcy, what do you want for Roy again?!?!'

"Well Jay, funny you should ask..." :naughty:

vcv 07-01-2012 11:03 AM

Can you provide context for this quote, possibly a link?

Chainshot 07-01-2012 11:18 AM

Josh Brolin as Derek Roy, Tommy Lee Jones as Darcy Regier in.... "No Market for Old Roy". In theatres this summer.

JPurp26 07-01-2012 11:23 AM

so what, we dont get maximum value. It might be addition by subtraction. Look at the run after we lose Roy to injury. We need a legit top notch defensive center and if Roy helps to acquire that, we must do it

ImpressedDAHagent 07-01-2012 11:26 AM

roy is awesome.

Zip15 07-01-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPurp26 (Post 51823233)
so what, we dont get maximum value. It might be addition by subtraction. Look at the run after we lose Roy to injury. We need a legit top notch defensive center and if Roy helps to acquire that, we must do it

Addition by subtraction. Just like Tim Connolly, right?

Clock 07-01-2012 11:36 AM

Funny that Hamilton says this after the Gaustad signing.

JPurp26 07-01-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 51824007)
Addition by subtraction. Just like Tim Connolly, right?

No, just like the season he went out after 35 games and the Sabres went on a tear and made the playoffs, remember?

Zip15 07-01-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPurp26 (Post 51824445)
No, just like the season he went out after 35 games and the Sabres went on a tear and made the playoffs, remember?

Still confusing correlation and causation, I see.

GodHatesBuffalo 07-01-2012 11:41 AM

Just keep him and exploit his contract ending year. He'll put up big numbers, and we'll all think he's turned the corner. Then when he gets his contract he'll be good but not great again.

He's no cancer as many of the nimrods on this board and around Buffalo in general, would suggest. He's merely the whipping boy. He fills the role that connolly vacated.

Once Roy is gone, the focus will shift to Leino. Sabres fans need a target at all times to loathe. It's unfortunate really.


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