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Firestorm 07-04-2012 01:25 PM

Which D-man should we go after now?
 
J-Bo: Best on sheer talent of the three (definitely an offensive defenseman). Calgary fans want to get rid of him (possible red flags). The acquisition cost would be Blum and a pick.

Carle: 2nd best on sheer talent. He was the whipping boy of Flyers fans for the past few years. We would be in a bidding war for his services with other teams.

Martin: Played in a system similar to Trotz on the Devils. Struggled in Pittsburgh. Cheapest salary but oldest in terms of age. Could be the best fit.

101st_fan 07-04-2012 01:32 PM

Go after all three, see who we can get first. Simultaneously throw a big offer at Weber and be prepared to move him if things don't go as desired.

Everlong 07-04-2012 01:33 PM

The problem Calgary fans have is that he certainly doesn't live up to his caphit. What he is, is a 25min a game workhorse and has a good overall game. I think it's a good fit for this team and this system, not to mention the caphit would actually help us reach the floor.

Don't want any part of Carle to be honest. I hear he's a turnover machine despite his offensive ability.

Martin wouldn't be a bad guy to get, but as usual, it comes down to price. Certainly not dealing a top-tier prospect for him.

INDhockeyfan 07-04-2012 01:45 PM

JBo is the best option. If Blum and picks is all it takes then trade now. His cap hit is high but we have so much space it doesn't matter. That said I bet we end up with Martin though.

Legionnaire11 07-04-2012 01:49 PM

Grab all three... trade Weber and Blum

RaiderDoug 07-04-2012 01:50 PM

1. Carle - durable, can eat minutes. Won't replace Suter, but would probably come close as any other available player. Would only cost money, which we have plenty of to spend.

2. JBo - has been the best, but the way his play tailed off in Calgary has to be worrysome. Contract is huge and would cost more in $$$'s than Carle, plus you'd have to give up someone like Blum to get him. The upside is that if he regains the form he showed in Florida, and he's young enough to maybe do that, you've just landed a #1 Dman to go with Weber (or replace him)

3. Martin - an inferior player to both, might be cheapest to acquire though due to Pittsburgh wanting to dump his contract.

Joe T Choker 07-04-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 101st_fan (Post 52104757)
Go after all three, see who we can get first. Simultaneously throw a big offer at Weber and be prepared to move him if things don't go as desired.

I wholeheartedly agree

braindead 07-04-2012 02:01 PM

Depends on whether Weber will sign. If he will, JBo. If not, it depends on the trade of him.

JerryGigantic 07-04-2012 02:01 PM

Henrik Tallinder!

We need RW's.

Discuss.

ninetynine* 07-04-2012 03:15 PM

Jay Bo = overpayed trainwreck
Matt Carle = turnover machine

worstfaceoffmanever 07-04-2012 03:54 PM

Carle is more of an offensive specialist than the other two. Martin would be a good fit. I'd like to go after Bouwmeester, though. I'm not as down on him as a lot of people are, and I think he could be had for a pretty good deal.

psytic 07-04-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetynine (Post 52113535)
Jay Bo = overpayed trainwreck
Matt Carle = turnover machine

Hes not a train wreck hes still our best D man and our clear number 1. The reason we want him gone is the Flames are a cap team every year so we can't afford to have a guy slightly under performing his contract ( we have alot of those already). realistically if he was priced at 5 mill he would be a steal of a deal.

He just hasn't been putting up the offence he used to but he did play for a Sutter so that could be part of it too. He also isn't a physical player at all even though hes 6'3. With a different coach he could probably regain his old form. If not he is an extremely mobile and fast skater who is great playing actual defence and can get back if Weber or who ever wants to take chances with the puck, I think he would rack alot of assists on a pairing with him.

glenngineer 07-04-2012 05:47 PM

Go after J-Bo, offer up Blum plus a pick. They need the salary dump, we need a guy who can eat up minutes. The drop off from Suter to J-Bo is not that huge a leap. He would do well with Weber. If we felt Josi was ready to be paired with Weber, we can pair J-Bo with Klein and have maybe the fleetest skating second pairing in the NHL. Either way our top 4 would be solid with J-Bo.

Heck, try to sign Carle as a free agent. He's a good top 4 that would eat minutes. Could be paired with Weber or Klein.

Nothing Is New 07-04-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glenngineer (Post 52123601)
Go after J-Bo, offer up Blum plus a pick. They need the salary dump, we need a guy who can eat up minutes. The drop off from Suter to J-Bo is not that huge a leap. He would do well with Weber. If we felt Josi was ready to be paired with Weber, we can pair J-Bo with Klein and have maybe the fleetest skating second pairing in the NHL. Either way our top 4 would be solid with J-Bo.

Heck, try to sign Carle as a free agent. He's a good top 4 that would eat minutes. Could be paired with Weber or Klein.

Yep!

Proto 07-04-2012 06:23 PM

If the team could work out a deal beforehand, would Alex Edler interest the Preds? Probably a Top 15 defenseman in the NHL and still young. I think he could be a really nice return as part of a package for Weber if the Preds go that route, but I expect losing him to free agency next off-season would be the sticking point.

Tanev would also likely be available, and all his advanced stats look exceptionally strong.

kypredsfan 07-04-2012 10:33 PM

Carle is off the market so I think we need to go all in for JayBo. Blum and a pick is more than fine with me. I'd love to see how Blum turns out with us, but we need a minute eater for this season. I'm confident Josi can be a Suter replacement in the near future, but just not comfortable putting those kind of minutes on him in only his first full season in the nhl.

allan5oh 07-04-2012 11:13 PM

Does Tobias Enstrom from the Jets interest you guys at all? $3.75 cap hit, UFA next summer. He seems to be the first guy that comes up in Jets trade rumors.

PS sorry for losing Suter.

thomas magnum 07-05-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan5oh (Post 52144211)
Does Tobias Enstrom from the Jets interest you guys at all? $3.75 cap hit, UFA next summer. He seems to be the first guy that comes up in Jets trade rumors.

PS sorry for losing Suter.

I think this makes a ton of sense. Being an ex-Thrasher fan, I know Enstrom very well. He could fill Sutter's shoes just fine. He eats up minutes, is solid in his own zone and plays a smart game. Sure he's small but Weber would make up for that.

Sleazoid 07-05-2012 07:17 AM

Enstrom would be awesome. Would be my favorite player on the preds besides rinne instantly. I loved watching him play when I was a Thrashers fan.

AtlantaWhaler 07-05-2012 07:29 AM

I'd LOVE Enstrom, however, my only fear is that he's another soon-to-be UFA.

Top 6 Spaling 07-05-2012 08:02 AM

Enstrom works depending on cost and his willingness to re-sign.

RaiderDoug 07-05-2012 08:47 AM

Enstrom would probably cost a ton in prospects/players.

AtlantaWhaler 07-05-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderDoug (Post 52154221)
Enstrom would probably cost a ton in prospects/players.

There in lies our problem. IF Weber stays, IMO, our focus is a mid-D and we go all in on a trade for a top-6. We don't have enough to get a top-D to play with Weber AND a big top-6. If Weber goes, it's what we can get in return and go from there.

KevFist 07-05-2012 11:36 AM

It all depends on the start of Toby's season. If it's anything like last season, then I think he could be had on the cheap.

In all honesty, i think Enstrom is a better player than Suter. Pair him with someone good so he's not always havign to cover for someone else's mistakes (Read Bogosian and Byfuglien) then I think he really could shine.

The only downside to Toby is he typically plays bigger than his frame. That's all well and fine in the wide open Southeast Division, but I don't know how that would hold up in the Central.

If I were Poile, I'd drop some picks and prospects to get Toby

metric 07-05-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legionnaire11 (Post 52106481)
Grab all three... trade Weber and Blum

Canucks fan here. What's going on with Blum? Just not ready or is it something else?

And as someone who has seen a lot of Jaybo, you do not want him.


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