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BVicious 07-04-2012 04:28 PM

Flames sign Aliu and Byron
 
Yay Abby Heat.

Go get'm guys. Each got 1 yr 2-way contracts

Calculon 07-04-2012 04:35 PM

Paul Byron: One year two way contract with an AAV of $585,000 / $105,000.

Akim Aliu: One-year two way contract with an AAV of $695,000 / $105,000.

Also of importance,
Quote:

Ryan Holmer ‏@RyanHolmerNHL
As stated before, Backlunds' agent has said that the #Flames have yet to begin contract talks. That was yesterday, will update later today.

InfinityIggy 07-04-2012 04:36 PM

Good signings. No risk.

Wonder what the hell is going on with Backlund though.

Calculon 07-04-2012 04:39 PM

The lack of discussion with Backlund lends some credence to the idea that they're shopping him and possibly others in a package for an upgrade.

Sean Monahan 07-04-2012 04:40 PM

Seems a bit early to give up on Backlund already

BUT, if we can get that elusive #1 center in a package with him, by all means!

InfinityIggy 07-04-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calculon (Post 52119479)
The lack of discussion with Backlund lends some credence to the idea that they're shopping him and possibly others in a package for an upgrade.

I guess, but wouldn't he hold more value signed?

Its not like he is going to have a big cap it or something.

BVicious 07-04-2012 04:48 PM

Funny houw Aliu is making more than Byron.

tyflames 07-04-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVicious (Post 52120117)
Funny houw Aliu is making more than Byron.

I thought this too. I guess Aliu's 2 games of experience is better than Byron's 22 games..

CGYPUKSUX 07-04-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinityIggy (Post 52119329)
Good signings. No risk.

Wonder what the hell is going on with Backlund though.

I think Backlund is heading out of town with a blueliner for a center. The lack of talk from the front office about him is deafening.

This is a breath of life for Aliu but probably the end of the line for Byron. Aliu gets a contract that will give him another life with a NHL club. Good for him. Bad news for Byron though. If the Flames were serious about Byron they would have given him a longer term. This is a put-up-or-shut-up year for him and based on the current makeup of the lineup it just doesn't look like he'll get much of a chance for a call up. We're awfully small and need some more beef on the wings.

Volica 07-04-2012 05:29 PM

Backlund and Bouw otm? Maybe, please let it be a legit first center. Make it happen feaster!

ImNotPoorImPoirier 07-04-2012 05:35 PM

Jbo and backlund to nashville for wilson and josi or ellis cant wait for it to happen

BVicious 07-04-2012 05:37 PM

I've been thinking for a long time that it's Berglund. I also have a feeling NJ will also be in on JBo. But I called the Cammy/Bourque deal 3 months before it happened. I just feel its happening. I also think u see Aliu in the flames line up opening night

InfinityIggy 07-04-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVicious (Post 52122921)
I've been thinking for a long time that it's Berglund. I also have a feeling NJ will also be in on JBo. But I called the Cammy/Bourque deal 3 months before it happened. I just feel its happening. I also think u see Aliu in the flames line up opening night

I agree with everything here.

Flames Fanatic 07-04-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVicious (Post 52122921)
I've been thinking for a long time that it's Berglund. I also have a feeling NJ will also be in on JBo. But I called the Cammy/Bourque deal 3 months before it happened. I just feel its happening. I also think u see Aliu in the flames line up opening night

That's my gut feeling as well. With all the talk of Bouwmeester to St. Louis, we really only have one option for a top six center coming back, since we don't want McDonald, and Backes isn't moving. I don't see NJ in the mix at all though, with financial issues and lack of centers to trade.

My only concern is that adding Berglund only makes our top six softer. I do like him as a player though.

Would be awesome if it was something like:

To STL:
Bouwmeester
Backlund

To Calgary:
Berglund
Rattie
Cole

Add or subtract as see fit to make it work.

The other option that comes to mind is Giordano for Krecji, with some tweaking for balance.

InfinityIggy 07-04-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flames Fanatic (Post 52123329)
That's my gut feeling as well. With all the talk of Bouwmeester to St. Louis, we really only have one option for a top six center coming back, since we don't want McDonald, and Backes isn't moving.

My only concern is that adding Berglund only makes our top six softer. I do like him as a player though.

Would be awesome if it was something like:

To STL:
Bouwmeester
Backlund

To Calgary:
Berglund
Rattie
Cole

Add or subtract as see fit to make it work.

The other option that comes to mind is Giordano for Krecji, with some tweaking for balance.

A million tears of joy if this happens. "Rebuild" over.

tyflames 07-04-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flames Fanatic (Post 52123329)
That's my gut feeling as well. With all the talk of Bouwmeester to St. Louis, we really only have one option for a top six center coming back, since we don't want McDonald, and Backes isn't moving. I don't see NJ in the mix at all though, with financial issues and lack of centers to trade.

My only concern is that adding Berglund only makes our top six softer. I do like him as a player though.

Would be awesome if it was something like:

To STL:
Bouwmeester
Backlund

To Calgary:
Berglund
Rattie
Cole

Add or subtract as see fit to make it work.

The other option that comes to mind is Giordano for Krecji, with some tweaking for balance.

We would be lucky to get Berglund and cole let alone add in Rattie.
It would have to be like
To St. Louis:
Boumeester
Backlund
3rd round pick

To Calgary:
Berglund
Cole

And I don't even know if that gets St. Louis thinking

Flames Fanatic 07-04-2012 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyflames (Post 52123681)
We would be lucky to get Berglund and cole let alone add in Rattie.
It would have to be like
To St. Louis:
Boumeester
Backlund
3rd round pick

To Calgary:
Berglund
Cole

And I don't even know if that gets St. Louis thinking

Depends on how they rate Bouwmeester. I'm perfectly okay with trading him, I am NOT okay with trading him away for scraps. He has more value than a lot of fans on this board give him imo.

CGYPUKSUX 07-04-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinityIggy (Post 52123413)
A million tears of joy if this happens. "Rebuild" over.

Rebuild would be just beginning. Make that move and you might as well move Kipper and Iggy when opportunity arises and really stock up. I think that would be the best thing possible for the franchise and for the fans. Of course the fans would have to develop some patience and not run our players out of town when they develop slowly or slower than expected. You're likely to see a lot more Backlunds than you are Iginlas as players develop.

TheHudlinator 07-04-2012 07:02 PM

I don't know how we got onto trading Jbo in this thread but I am excited both Byron and Aliu are back both are a shot at the Flames lineup this year imo, I am excited to see what they bring.

Ace Rimmer 07-04-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyflames (Post 52123681)
We would be lucky to get Berglund and cole let alone add in Rattie.
It would have to be like
To St. Louis:
Boumeester
Backlund
3rd round pick

To Calgary:
Berglund
Cole

And I don't even know if that gets St. Louis thinking

From what I understand from Blues fans, Berglund is involved only if Giordano is on the table - even then it's a stretch.

Volica 07-04-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin (Post 52131047)
From what I understand from Blues fans, Berglund is involved only if Giordano is on the table - even then it's a stretch.

Hf fans know about as much as people watching a game at home. No one knows what the gm is thinking, what his scouts are saying etc.

Every fan over values their talent crazy. Gms have a different view than fanboys

BVicious 07-04-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flames Fanatic (Post 52123329)

My only concern is that adding Berglund only makes our top six softer. I do like him as a player though.

Would be awesome if it was something like:

To STL:
Bouwmeester
Backlund

To Calgary:
Berglund
Rattie
Cole

Add or subtract as see fit to make it work.

The other option that comes to mind is Giordano for Krecji, with some tweaking for balance.

Soft? He's like 6'4" and 215 lbs.

I would do JBo straight up. And sign another Dman. I'd even take Hannan back if I had to.

Johnny Hoxville 07-04-2012 08:39 PM

Jbo and Backlund may land Berglund, and I say "may". And if that was offered we take that deal and run.

Berglund has tremendous upside and is in no way soft. A deal I see as much more plausible is Bouwmeester and Backlund for Schwartz and Cole. I'd actually prefer this deal as we would get a good young dman back.

Also congrats to Aliu to Byron, hopefully they make they most of their opportunities when they are called up in light of injuries. I was hoping one of these guys would get a chance at a roster spot, but I think Feaster had to sign other vet players to sell to Iginla that we are going to be competitive.

Flames Fanatic 07-04-2012 08:42 PM

As per Jeremy Rutherford, Blues Beat Writer:

Quote:

If Carle signs in Tampa, a deal Dreger says is close, Blues may be forced to trade for a top-4 Dman.
Edited slightly simply because I'm transposing via my phone.

Volica 07-04-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVW (Post 52133811)
Berglund has tremendous upside and is in no way soft. A deal I see as much more plausible is Bouwmeester and Backlund for Schwartz and Cole. I'd actually prefer this deal as we would get a good young dman back.

Have to disagree. Gotta get that guy that can be our #1 c. Hopefully flames could add for Cole on the Berglund deal... Schwartz is an amazing talent, but I want that thing that's plagued this organization for almost two decades.


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