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pavelbure604 07-04-2012 06:29 PM

Ryan Suter overpaid?
 
Both signed 13 years contract. Would you rather have Keith at 5.5 or Suter at 7.5?

If you say Keith, then that measn Suter was overpaid. Suter is now the highest paid dmen in the league but hes not even top 10. I can name 10 dmen I would take ahead of Suter

Pierce Hawthorne 07-04-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavelbure604 (Post 52126073)
Both signed 13 years contract. Would you rather have Keith at 5.5 or Suter at 7.5?

If you say Keith, then that measn Suter was overpaid. Suter is now the highest paid dmen in the league but hes not even top 10. I can name 10 dmen I would take ahead of Suter

HAHAHAHA, I would seriously like to see your list of 10, because honestly I dont think there even 4 that are better then him.

Chara, Weber(Arguable) are the only two in the NHL right now that are better than Suter, and Weber is arguable. We'll find out this year who was picking up the others slack together.

Personally, Suter is #2 in the NHL behind Chara right now.

Someone sounds really mad cause Suter didnt sign with there team, HAHAHAHA comical to say 10 guys are better than Suter.

Ivan13 07-04-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavelbure604 (Post 52126073)
Both signed 13 years contract. Would you rather have Keith at 5.5 or Suter at 7.5?

If you say Keith, then that measn Suter was overpaid. Suter is now the highest paid dmen in the league but hes not even top 10. I can name 10 dmen I would take ahead of Suter

Then name them. And Suter is top 10 easily.

Icebreakers 07-04-2012 06:36 PM

Yes, overpaid. Highest cap hit for a defensemen with a 13 year contract who has not won one thing or have been nominated for an award.

Kloparren 07-04-2012 06:36 PM

No I guess you can justify it because some teams were willing to give more to Parise so Parise took a bit less and Suter got more.

Also I wouldn't really take too many dmen over him.....Weber/Chara/Pietrangelo/maybe Keith/maybe Letang/maybe Karlsson and maybe Myers if you wanna go on potential (size/skill combo).

Keith signed his contract 2+ yrs ago when the cap was less than 60 M iirc.

wej20 07-04-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavelbure604 (Post 52126073)
Both signed 13 years contract. Would you rather have Keith at 5.5 or Suter at 7.5?

If you say Keith, then that measn Suter was overpaid. Suter is now the highest paid dmen in the league but hes not even top 10. I can name 10 dmen I would take ahead of Suter

Did you ever consider Keith is underpaid?

Anomander Rake 07-04-2012 06:37 PM

Dmen I would take over Suter:

Weber
Karlsson
Pietrangelo


That's it right now. Chara is better but significantly older, no one else who could end up better is far enough along for me to bet on them over Suter.

jamwires 07-04-2012 06:37 PM

Karlsson, Weber, Chara...then it's probably Suter. But he's still overpaid, yes... Especially with all the extra crap and length of term.

Icebreakers 07-04-2012 06:37 PM

Chara, Karlsson, Weber, Doughty, Keith, Petro are all arguably better. (with everything considered and going forward)

Izzy 07-04-2012 06:51 PM

Overpaid, but definitely in the top 10 dmen in the league...

Rhaego 07-04-2012 06:58 PM

Too many years.

Chris Hansen 07-04-2012 06:58 PM

Yeesh, Suter has become pretty overrated if people really would take him over Duncan Keith despite being 2 million dollars more on the cap each year.

Or maybe Keith's become underrated. Perhaps a bit of both.

Suter plays precisely the same game as Keith does. They're almost exactly the same player in style and ability.

Pierce Hawthorne 07-04-2012 06:59 PM

People saying Karlsson are laughable. Kid had 1 good season, theres no way he maintains a 70 point pace as a Dman over his career, he probably ends up 50-60 consistently, and thats only 10-15 more then Suter. Suter is way better then karlsson at everything else.

Suter is better then Karlsson. Pietrangelo is arguable, but Karlsson is not.

Chris Hansen 07-04-2012 06:59 PM

To answer the question, though, he's overpaid by a tad. Negligible. Great defenseman.

Puckgenius* 07-04-2012 06:59 PM

7.54 is what he would make on like a 1-4 year deal, anything over and that should drop each year not stay the same. On a 13 year deal he should be in the 5-5.5 mark.

Is it really 7.54 for 13 straight years? ouch

Happy Hallidays 07-04-2012 07:40 PM

Only guys I would take over him are

Weber, Pietrangelo, Karlsson, Doughty, and maybe Keith. Chara is too old now I would rather Suter.

Aquin001 on Ice 07-04-2012 07:51 PM

He probably is, but how is Keith's contract relevant to this at all?

IBLeaf* 07-04-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wej20 (Post 52126491)
Did you ever consider Keith is underpaid?

Bingo.

JerseyGuy276 07-04-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puckgenius (Post 52127835)
7.54 is what he would make on like a 1-4 year deal, anything over and that should drop each year not stay the same. On a 13 year deal he should be in the 5-5.5 mark.

Is it really 7.54 for 13 straight years? ouch

No...he actually makes, 12, 12, 11 for the first three years of his contract.


Chara
Weber
Keith
Karlsson
Yandle
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Hell, I might even pick Letang, Edler and Shattenkirk over him...

bp spec 07-04-2012 08:05 PM

A bit maybe, but he's still top 5 in the league right now.

Trance Kuja 07-04-2012 08:06 PM

He's not overpaid.

Aquin001 on Ice 07-04-2012 08:12 PM

If your options are to overpay for Ryan Suter or to not have Ryan Suter on your team (assuming there's a decent amount of cap space), you take Option 1 every time.

blasted_Sabre 07-04-2012 08:15 PM

Now? Maybe slightly.

ten years from now? Probably.

Icebreakers 07-04-2012 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquin001 on Ice (Post 52131857)
If your options are to overpay for Ryan Suter or to not have Ryan Suter on your team (assuming there's a decent amount of cap space), you take Option 1 every time.

You can say that about every superstar UFA. But that is not the topic we are discussing.

maroon 6 07-04-2012 08:17 PM

Sure, maybe a bit, but atleast you get Parise with him.


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