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flames4eva 07-05-2012 01:33 PM

Wideman VS. Carle VS. Garrison
 
Who would you rather have had?

FlamesFan18 07-05-2012 01:37 PM

None at the contracts they got. But very close between Carle and Wideman, Garrison wont score 16 goals as a Flame.

Jokinen VS Hudler VS Jagr

DBU 07-05-2012 01:40 PM

Garrison, honestly, but I pretty much expect his offense to dry up without Campbell regardless of where he goes. I'm fine with Wideman, even if the contract is a bit gaudy.


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Originally Posted by FlamesFan18 (Post 52169647)
None at the contracts they got. But very close between Carle and Wideman, Garrison wont score 16 goals as a Flame.

Jokinen VS Hudler VS Jagr

Hudler, not close.

MarkGio 07-05-2012 01:44 PM

If I say Garrison or Carle, what does that bring me? Disappointment...

Obviously I now prefer Wideman.

saillias 07-05-2012 01:46 PM

Really hard to say, because for one they all played in the East. Secondly they're all unknown commodities in different ways.

Can Garrison keep up that level of production without Campbell. Was his season a one-hit wonder.

Were Carle's regular gaffes a product of Philly's playing style that forces their D to make quick no-look transition passes, or does he just play like that period.

Wideman leads his team in hits and blocked shots and was near the top of the league in points for a defenseman yet ended the playoffs on the 3rd pairing. What is he going to be in Calgary.

If we're taking them based on 2011-2012 play I would choose Garrison at that salary.

Stewie Griffin 07-05-2012 01:48 PM

I initially wanted Carle over Wideman. Did Wideman fill a need? Yes. Am I disappointed? No.

I wanted Garrison as well, but for $4 million or less. One good season does not make a player worth that kind of contract IMO.

CGYPUKSUX 07-05-2012 02:01 PM

None of the above? Wideman is too one dimensional. Garrison has no proven track record and has massive bust potential. Carle is as mediocre a player as they come. Does nothing great and nothing horribly. At least Wideman has the offensive side of the puck working for him. Given my druthers I would have signed none of them and waited for future UFA classes to spend money on.

InfinityIggy 07-05-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamesFan18 (Post 52169647)
None at the contracts they got. But very close between Carle and Wideman, Garrison wont score 16 goals as a Flame.

Jokinen VS Hudler VS Jagr

Jokinen easily.

Fleury14 07-05-2012 02:41 PM

Garrison.

Before he put up 16 goals last season, he was being recognized for becoming a top defensive D in the league. Even if his offense were to dry up, he'll remain a very good defensive player (which is important for playing defense, guys).

Wideman and Carle can both be nightmares defensively at times, but overall are 'OK' at defense.

Garrison's overall game is more effective and valuable, and he's cheaper to boot (although obviously took a hometown discount).


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Originally Posted by FlamesFan18 (Post 52169647)
Jokinen VS Hudler VS Jagr

Almost inclined to say Jagr due to the 1-year term. Same cost as Jokinen, but Olli's play could drop off in the 2nd year and having him in your line-up means one of your top 2 Cs isn't very good at faceoffs. So you get Jagr for a year and then have the $4.5m freed up next year when you know what the cap would be at.

For our team, I do probably prefer Hudler, but it really depends on how he adjusts to a new team as we've only seen him on one NHL team so far. But his previous adjustment to new teams in the AHL and KHL suggest it could work out great.

calgaryflames1212 07-08-2012 06:57 PM

hudler of course!

Volica 07-08-2012 07:33 PM

Carle. Reliable three four guy. Garrison, nope, you're not getting those numbers anywhere except Nashville, Florida, stl, los Angeles... Wideman if he puts up 20+ pp points I don't really care too too much about his d.

Johnny Hoxville 07-08-2012 07:46 PM

Given our needs on the backend, I can see why we locked up Wideman. But we also need a younger Sarich type of dman, so hopefully he can stay effective as a bottom pairing guy. At the end of Sarich's next contract, it would be great if Ramage will be ready to step in and fill that role.

tyflames 07-08-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamesFan18 (Post 52169647)
None at the contracts they got. But very close between Carle and Wideman, Garrison wont score 16 goals as a Flame.

Jokinen VS Hudler VS Jagr

Carle on a cheaper contract but on current contracts Id say Garrison. And way rather Jokinen over those two and Its not even close

I Hate Chris Butler 07-08-2012 11:46 PM

Garrison. Wideman is going to have this forum pulling hair out by the 30 game mark with **** defense.

FLAMES666 07-09-2012 12:12 AM

Wideman because he is the only right handed shot and best compliment to Bouwmeester in my opinion. Garrison is so overrated, he had a great season but the last time we picked a D man from Florida he sure didn't produce as well in our division. Carle is just a poor mans Bouwmeester in my opinion, doesn't fill any void on our team at all.

TheHudlinator 07-09-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FLAMES666 (Post 52323879)
Wideman because he is the only right handed shot and best compliment to Bouwmeester in my opinion. Garrison is so overrated, he had a great season but the last time we picked a D man from Florida he sure didn't produce as well in our division. Carle is just a poor mans Bouwmeester in my opinion, doesn't fill any void on our team at all.

This is huge, the fact that Wideman is right handed adds a something that we seriously lack. Gio is better than Carle and makes less and we need offense from our defense more than just a good defenseman like Garrison I don't believe he will put up 30+ points a year.

TheJudge 07-09-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLAMES666 (Post 52323879)
Wideman because he is the only right handed shot and best compliment to Bouwmeester in my opinion. Garrison is so overrated, he had a great season but the last time we picked a D man from Florida he sure didn't produce as well in our division. Carle is just a poor mans Bouwmeester in my opinion, doesn't fill any void on our team at all.

I thought Garrison was a right handed shot as well?

http://canucksarmy.com/uploads/Image...on-590x433.jpg

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo...xtra_large.jpg

http://www.nwsportsbeat.com/wp-conte...n-Garrison.jpg

Haatley 07-09-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJudge (Post 52356169)

the dude in the pics is clearly left handed, i dont get this post

FLAMES666 07-09-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haatley (Post 52356555)
the dude in the pics is clearly left handed, i dont get this post

He really wanted to show how his thoughts were mistaken I guess.

MarkGio 07-09-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLAMES666 (Post 52357721)
He really wanted to show how his thoughts were mistaken I guess.

:laugh: That would make it a very good post!

TheHudlinator 07-09-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLAMES666 (Post 52357721)
He really wanted to show how his thoughts were mistaken I guess.

:laugh: It all makes sense now

TheHudlinator 07-09-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJudge (Post 52356169)

Wideman is right handed Garrison is left handed it is easy to see when you compare pictures.

http://flamesnation.ca/uploads/Image...1299718801.jpg

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/...a7ff0807e.jpeg

Xelstyle 07-09-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 52359667)
Wideman is right handed Garrison is left handed it is easy to see when you compare pictures.

http://flamesnation.ca/uploads/Image...1299718801.jpg

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/...a7ff0807e.jpeg

I could have sworn they both kicked the puck and didn't need hockey sticks. :sarcasm:

TheJudge 07-10-2012 07:31 AM

Haha... Wow sorry about that guys.

Epic fail of a post that's for sure. Must've been a long day or something.


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