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DJD209 07-05-2012 05:48 PM

San Jose-St. Louis Swap
 
Joe Pavelski for David Perron

Blues lack a young center that can put the puck in the net. Sharks lack a top line right handed scoring winger. Even though Joe Thornton injured Perron i think theyd make a good line becuase big joe prefers a right handed shot.

McDonald-Pavelski-Oshie/Backes
and
Marleau-Thornton-Perron
seem like improved lines to me what do you think.

PocketNines 07-05-2012 05:54 PM

Love Pavelski, love Perron. Basically the only rationale to do the deal is balancing center/wing. I don't see it happening but I love both players so wouldn't hate it, but I wouldn't want to add and if the Sharks insisted on us adding I think we'd be fine saying no.

SenatorsTime 07-05-2012 05:59 PM

wont happen perron just got extended 4 years i think

Bluester 07-05-2012 06:00 PM

Perron just signed a nice extension. So he isn't going anywhere.

DJD209 07-05-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluester (Post 52186313)
Perron just signed a nice extension. So he isn't going anywhere.

Devin Setoguchi got resigned to an exstension in less than 24 hours before he was traded to Minnesota

Bluester 07-05-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJD209 (Post 52186415)
Devin Setoguchi got resigned to an exstension in less than 24 hours before he was traded to Minnesota

We're not a spend to the cap team. That is a good term and salary for Perron. We also need to resign Oshie who is a RFA himself.

Phil Connors* 07-05-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJD209 (Post 52186415)
Devin Setoguchi got resigned to an exstension in less than 24 hours before he was traded to Minnesota

Yeah, and that was pretty ****ed up for them to do.

Sharks4Life 07-05-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluester (Post 52186943)
We're not a spend to the cap team. That is a good term and salary for Perron. We also need to resign Oshie who is a RFA himself.

Although I agree with your statement, and personally wouldn't want to do this deal more cause i would rather keep pavelski... the .2 mil between their two salaries isn't gonna make or break anybody in this situation.

2 Minute Minor 07-05-2012 06:20 PM

It would be a nice opportunity for Perron to put IcyHot in Joe Thornton's jock.

Sharks4Life 07-05-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJD209 (Post 52186415)
Devin Setoguchi got resigned to an exstension in less than 24 hours before he was traded to Minnesota

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaallMunson18 (Post 52187107)
Yeah, and that was pretty ****ed up for them to do.

It happened, just move on. There isn't any other team in the league that if they had an offer for a top tier d man and it was an orginizational need that they wouldn't jump on it.

Phil Connors* 07-05-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharks4Life (Post 52187277)
It happened, just move on. There isn't any other team in the league that if they had an offer for a top tier d man and it was an orginizational need that they wouldn't jump on it.

I could care less. Wasn't my team's GM who did it.

bleedblue1223 07-05-2012 06:47 PM

Armstrong said he will only trade picks to get a defenseman and not roster players, so he definitely won't move Perron or any other roster player for a forward, considering the only thing that has been reported that we are interested in is a LH dman.

Dolph Ziggler 07-05-2012 07:28 PM

I love Joe Pavelski. My favorite Shark player and one of my favorite non Blues, but with Perron re-signing, I don't want to be a team that signs a guy only to turn around and trade them afterwards.

Hatrick Marleau 07-05-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Inglorious One (Post 52190635)
I love Joe Pavelski. My favorite Shark player and one of my favorite non Blues, but with Perron re-signing, I don't want to be a team that signs a guy only to turn around and trade them afterwards.

Then give us Oshie.:naughty:

Pinkfloyd 07-05-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ReaallMunson18 (Post 52187107)
Yeah, and that was pretty ****ed up for them to do.

Not like it mattered. Seto's rights were theirs for three years anyway. If it was a UFA that chose to play there, it would be something. An RFA that still had three years of service to go really doesn't make a difference in that regard. He got a fair amount, a fair term for what he had to do anyway, and isn't going to be asked to play any longer than his RFA years. Seto didn't get screwed.

BlueDream 07-05-2012 08:25 PM

Blues would do this. Pavelski is still pretty young as he turns 28 next week and he would push Berglund down to the 3rd-line and give us great center depth.

I know it won't happen though.

jarmoismyhero 07-05-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 52188643)
Armstrong said he will only trade picks to get a defenseman and not roster players, so he definitely won't move Perron or any other roster player for a forward, considering the only thing that has been reported that we are interested in is a LH dman.

I really hope Armstong is not for real about that. In order to get a top 4 LH D they will have to trade legit players as the BLues are a team that's pick should not longer be in the top 15. And I believe he said he would rather not trade roster players not that he will not. Of course any GM would rather not trade roster players in improve the team.

Ignore42me* 07-05-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 52188643)
Armstrong said he will only trade picks to get a defenseman and not roster players, so he definitely won't move Perron or any other roster player for a forward, considering the only thing that has been reported that we are interested in is a LH dman.

He basically said he would prefer to trade picks instead of players. Completely different then saying he would "only" trade picks.

bleedblue1223 07-05-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ignore42me (Post 52194521)
He basically said he would prefer to trade picks instead of players. Completely different then saying he would "only" trade picks.

He also said he is more than prepared to go into next season with what we have. That means he won't get forced into giving up something, that he doesn't want to give up.

The biggest roster player that he'd give up would be D'Agostini. D'Agostini and a 2nd wouldn't be worth trading for what we would get.

jarmoismyhero 07-05-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 52194735)
He also said he is more than prepared to go into next season with what we have. That means he won't get forced into giving up something, that he doesn't want to give up.

The biggest roster player that he'd give up would be D'Agostini. D'Agostini and a 2nd wouldn't be worth trading for what we would get.

Not if a player like Yandle for real becomes available. Then you start looking at trading Oshie. Or at least I would hope he would.

bleedblue1223 07-05-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jarmoismyhero (Post 52194893)
Not if a player like Yandle for real becomes available. Then you start looking at trading Oshie. Or at least I would hope he would.

He's already said core players won't be traded. Apparently the way free agency went still hasn't changed it.

jarmoismyhero 07-05-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bleedblue1223 (Post 52194971)
He's already said core players won't be traded. Apparently the way free agency went still hasn't changed it.

Well I guess we will not get the impact Dmen he wanted and we will face the same issues we had in last years playoffs. This team needs a top LHD

bleedblue1223 07-05-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jarmoismyhero (Post 52195209)
Well I guess we will not get the impact Dmen he wanted and we will face the same issues we had in last years playoffs. This team needs a top LHD

Playoff experience will go a long way. We can also make a deal at the deadline if we have to.

Timbo Slice 07-05-2012 09:17 PM

Horrible value from Sharks POV. Pavelski is worth much more than Perron.

bleedblue1223 07-05-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo Slice (Post 52195637)
Horrible value from Sharks POV. Pavelski is worth much more than Perron.

Apparently not.


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