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BBH 07-05-2012 08:32 PM

OFFICIAL Rockford IceHogs/Toledo Walleye/Other Prospects Thread 2012-2013
 
:hawks Prospects

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Roster
Forwards
Kyle Beach
Terry Broadhurst
Philip Danault
Rob Flick*
Mike Fornataro*
Byron Froese
Peter LeBlanc*
Mark McNeill
Jeremy Morin
Rostislav Olesz
Phillipe Paradis
Brandon Pirri
Ben Smith
Brandon Svendsen*
Paul Zanette*

Defensemen
Eric Baier
Brian Fahey*
Connor Goggin
Shawn Lalonde
Joe Lavin
Ryan Stanton
Ben Youds*
Adam Clendening

Goalies
Carter Hutton
Kent Simpson
Mac Carruth

* - Under contract with Rockford IceHogs.

Toledo Walleye
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NOTE: PROSPECTS ONLY SHOWN IF UNDER CONTRACT WITH WALLEYE OR BLACKHAWKS; PROSPECTS UNDER CONTRACT WITH DETROIT NOT SHOWN.

Forwards
Aaron Lewicki*
Joey Martin*
Brian Matte*
Nick Oslund*
Kyle Rogers*

Defensemen
Matt Krug
Kyle Page
Phil Rauch

Goalies
Alec Richards

Junior Leagues/College/International

Forwards
Teuvo Teravainen
Garret Ross
Kevin Hayes
Joakim Nordstrom
Alex Broadhurst
Maxim Shalunov
Chris Calnan
Dan Delisle

Defensemen
Dillon Fournier
Justin Holl
Nick Mattson
Paul Phillips
Sam Jardine
Stephen Johns
Michael Paliotta
Travis Brown
Braden Birch
Joe Gleason

Goalies
Johan Mattsson
Brandon Whitney
Matt Tomkins

Iridium128 07-05-2012 10:23 PM

Does anyone know how soon Teravaianen is away from being a full-time NHL player?

BBH 07-05-2012 10:31 PM

OMG, my first stickied thread other than a GDT. Luv the mods. <3

To answer your question, I think he's a good 2 years away, but I don't think that's being overly generous or harsh, I think it's a good, honest assumption. He might impress during training camp and the preseason, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hawks take the Saad route: 2 games to start the regular season then back to Finland.

Judrix 07-05-2012 10:35 PM

players I will be most interested in following this season:

#1: Teuvo - c'mon everybody is psyched about this kid.

#2: McNeil l- how will he handle his first pro season?

#3: Danault - same as above

#4: Whitney - we desperately need a solid goalie prospect, he was picked in the 7th, but I have a good feeling about him

#5: Beach - I think everybody is interested and frankly nobody has a clue how he is going to be this year.

Judrix 07-05-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BelugasandBHawks (Post 52198785)
OMG, my first stickied thread other than a GDT. Luv the mods. <3

To answer your question, I think he's a good 2 years away, but I don't think that's being overly generous or harsh, I think it's a good, honest assumption. He might impress during training camp and the preseason, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hawks take the Saad route: 2 games to start the regular season then back to Finland.

you missed Clendening. Other than that, great job listing all these guys.

BBH 07-05-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judrix (Post 52198973)
you missed Clendening. Other than that, great job listing all these guys.

Fixed. Thanks! :thumbu:

MagicSlap* 07-05-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iridium128 (Post 52198475)
Does anyone know how soon Teravaianen is away from being a full-time NHL player?

Real tough to say but most scouts think he's probably 1-2 years away. It all depends on how his off-seasons go and how he continues to develop. The only holes in his game right now are the fact that he is weak (he's really not all that small) compared to the men in the FEL. He still put up points there, quite well, but he didn't really win a lot of board battles our out muscle (unsurprising, but he didn't lack a willingness to try).

So what is said is that he's already scored well against men but he hasn't really played a full game well against men. Not to say he'll ever be a dominant two player but he still needs more. His game is NHL ready, his body is not. Let's not forget he's basically the youngest player drafted this year.

So I'd say best case is he comes in year after next. He's already shown incredible development over the last year so it's possible he's ready for the year after next. Most have him ready the year after that though.

HockeySensible 07-05-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judrix (Post 52198919)
players I will be most interested in following this season:

#1: Teuvo - c'mon everybody is psyched about this kid.

#2: McNeil l- how will he handle his first pro season?

#3: Danault - same as above

#4: Whitney - we desperately need a solid goalie prospect, he was picked in the 7th, but I have a good feeling about him

#5: Beach - I think everybody is interested and frankly nobody has a clue how he is going to be this year.

McNeill and Danault won't be turning Pro until the 2013-14 season. They'll be returning to their junior teams should they not make Chicago in October (or whenever the NHL season starts up).

I'm most interested in Teravainen, Fournier and A. Broadhurst. I'll be watching Alex alot in London next year.

massivegoonery 07-06-2012 12:13 AM

Didn't the Hogs sign Saintsy?

Judrix 07-06-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossTheBoss (Post 52201737)
McNeill and Danault won't be turning Pro until the 2013-14 season. They'll be returning to their junior teams should they not make Chicago in October (or whenever the NHL season starts up).

I'm most interested in Teravainen, Fournier and A. Broadhurst. I'll be watching Alex alot in London next year.

I thought they were signed to their ELC's

No Fun Shogun 07-06-2012 02:11 AM

Yeah, Teuvo is probably two years away, maybe even three. He'll stay with Jokerit for two years and might have to spend some time in Rockford before making the jump up to the NHL.

Bubba88 07-06-2012 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iridium128 (Post 52198475)
Does anyone know how soon Teravaianen is away from being a full-time NHL player?

you won't get a good answer here. Most have never seen him play. I saw him in 2 games last year.

Most reports and what some finns say 2-3 years

RomersWorld* 07-06-2012 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judrix (Post 52203109)
I thought they were signed to their ELC's

CHL players must remain in the CHL if they are under 20 years old by December 31st of that year. They can play in the NHL, but must be returned to CHL if sent down. So Brandon Saad, who was born in 1992 can play in the AHL but Mark McNeill+Phillip Danault, born in 1993 are either NHL or CHL.

Hawkscap 07-06-2012 07:16 AM

Mac Carruth Signed and will be playing in either Toldeo or Rockford.

Alec Richards is still under contract,too.
.
SDP &Chris DiDomenico were released by the Hawks.

Clendening signed with the Hawks and will be in Rockford.

BBH 07-06-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topher42 (Post 52208091)
Mac Carruth Signed and will be playing in either Toldeo or Rockford.

Alec Richards is still under contract,too.
.
SDP &Chris DiDomenico were released by the Hawks.

Clendening signed with the Hawks and will be in Rockford.

Thanks, fixed!

Judrix 07-06-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomersWorld (Post 52206125)
CHL players must remain in the CHL if they are under 20 years old by December 31st of that year. They can play in the NHL, but must be returned to CHL if sent down. So Brandon Saad, who was born in 1992 can play in the AHL but Mark McNeill+Phillip Danault, born in 1993 are either NHL or CHL.

so the reason McNeill and Danault played 7 games in the AHL were cause their CHL seasons ended?

Sarava 07-06-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judrix (Post 52216251)
so the reason McNeill and Danault played 7 games in the AHL were cause their CHL seasons ended?

that is correct

HockeySensible 07-06-2012 04:08 PM

For kids drafted out of the CHL who are not 20 by December 31st of the year they would be turning Pro, they must remain in the CHL. For Kids drafted out of the USNTDP or Europe who go on to play in the CHL (Like Morin), they can turn AHL Pro before turning 20 in the same year because they're not bound to the transfer agreement between the CHL/NHL.

Of course, any player, drafted out of any league can make the NHL at any point... but for kids drafted out of the CHL, it's the NHL or CHL until they turn 20 in the year they'd be making the jump to the AHL/Pro.

Bubba88 07-07-2012 06:27 AM

add Alec Richards as Hawks goalie in Toledo

Sir Psycho T 07-07-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iridium128 (Post 52198475)
Does anyone know how soon Teravaianen is away from being a full-time NHL player?

Could be in 2013 could be never, there are 1000s of factors that go into that. Being 17 he still has a lot of growing a maturing to do before seeing an NHL rink.

Realistically 3 years, would be enough time for his game, body and mind to grow and mature enough to be ready for the NHL.

Sir Psycho T 07-07-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossTheBoss (Post 52231951)
For kids drafted out of the CHL who are not 20 by December 31st of the year they would be turning Pro, they must remain in the CHL. For Kids drafted out of the USNTDP or Europe who go on to play in the CHL (Like Morin), they can turn AHL Pro before turning 20 in the same year because they're not bound to the transfer agreement between the CHL/NHL.

Of course, any player, drafted out of any league can make the NHL at any point... but for kids drafted out of the CHL, it's the NHL or CHL until they turn 20 in the year they'd be making the jump to the AHL/Pro.

Unless they exceed the game limit of course then it's NHL or bust.

committedindian86 07-07-2012 11:51 AM

I gotta get me a Toledo Walleye jersey that's pretty badass

Bubba88 07-13-2012 09:10 AM

my hometown Team signed former Hog Pete MacArthur. Can somebody tell me more about him. He's small and more of a playmaker, right? More Center or LW? I think he plays a bit gritty?

No Fun Shogun 07-13-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by committedindian86 (Post 52264041)
I gotta get me a Toledo Walleye jersey that's pretty badass

You mean their new thirds?

http://swampshop.milbstore.com/store...Jersey_300.jpg

Yeah, those are pretty boss.

RomersWorld* 07-13-2012 03:28 PM

So the Hawks have Carter Hutton, Alec Richards, Mac Carruth and Kent Simpson signed right?

Carter Hutton will be the starter in Rockford to start and I'm sure Alec Richards will be in Toledo.

So who do you guys think wins the job in Rockford? Does the better goalie get sent down to Toledo? Think about it, would you rather have your young goalie getting starts and playing time in Toledo or being a backup in Rockford? It should be interesting to see how it all plays out. Maybe Simpson and Carruth both get sent to Toledo to start and they'll rotate starts.


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