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Play4Miracles* 07-08-2012 05:55 PM

Wojtek Wolski
 
This guy put up 65 points in 80 games in 09-10. Doesn't look like he's had much luck staying healthy since then. I noticed that he is still listed as an available UFA. Am I right in assessing his talents to an improved version of Ponikarovsky?

Does anybody know the nature of his injuries, and what kind of player he is? The last thing the Sabres need is another soft DL guy, but he intrigues me because he puts up decent playoff numbers and he's got good NHL size.

Lonewolfe2015 07-08-2012 05:58 PM

He's soft.

Zoombie 07-08-2012 05:59 PM

He's a ghost on the ice. He has skill but he is soft

Pure 07-08-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 52310523)
This guy put up 65 points in 80 games in 09-10. Doesn't look like he's had much luck staying healthy since then. I noticed that he is still listed as an available UFA. Am I right in assessing his talents to an improved version of Ponikarovsky?

Does anybody know the nature of his injuries, and what kind of player he is? The last thing the Sabres need is another soft DL guy, but he intrigues me because he puts up decent playoff numbers and he's got good NHL size.

Wolski is the definition of soft.

rt 07-08-2012 06:01 PM

Extremely passive and soft on the ice. Floats frequently and is a spectator more often than he's actually engaged. Doesn't go into the hard areas, cheats defensively, and will sell out more often then not in his own zone. Frequently finds himself in his coach's dog house but deals poorly with adversity and would sooner see himself traded to a new team than to work himself out of trouble.

But be has tremendous offensive skill that continues to provide him with opportunity after opportunity.

Play4Miracles* 07-08-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 52310713)
Extremely passive and soft on the ice. Floats frequently and is a spectator more often than he's actually engaged. Doesn't go into the hard areas, cheats defensively, and will sell out more often then not in his own zone. Frequently finds himself in his coach's dog house but deals poorly with adversity and would sooner see himself traded to a new team than to work himself out of trouble.

But be has tremendous offensive skill that continues to provide him with opportunity after opportunity.

Oh my...


Thanks guys, and no thanks to Mr. Wolski.

ShootIt 07-08-2012 06:27 PM

Enigma. At times he looked good for the panthers. However, most of the time he was AWOL on the ice.

It says something when a team like the panthers bench an "offensive" player in the playoffs

Laus723 07-08-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 52310713)
Extremely passive and soft on the ice. Floats frequently and is a spectator more often than he's actually engaged. Doesn't go into the hard areas, cheats defensively, and will sell out more often then not in his own zone. Frequently finds himself in his coach's dog house but deals poorly with adversity and would sooner see himself traded to a new team than to work himself out of trouble.

But be has tremendous offensive skill that continues to provide him with opportunity after opportunity.

Couldn't have said it better. There were a few times last season where he surprised me with physical play, but it's few and far between and was scratched in the playoffs. He'd be incredible if he'd ever engage.

KingJet* 07-08-2012 06:31 PM

Hes probably going to play in Europe

Mr Atoz* 07-08-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJet (Post 52311707)
Hes probably going to play in Europe


That's where he belongs.

Izzy 07-08-2012 08:32 PM

Would probably do well on a line with Tavares on the Isles though

BrickAHL 07-08-2012 08:33 PM

He is soft, lazy and bad defensively and this is coming from a huge fan of his.

Joe Sakic 07-08-2012 09:11 PM

Wolski used to be my favorite player when he was still in Colorado. Still have his jersey.

I'd love to see him sign somewhere, but I understand why teams are hesitant. He just doesn't have a good work ethic plain and simple.

Play4Miracles* 07-12-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by talkmtv com (Post 52317741)
Wolski used to be my favorite player when he was still in Colorado. Still have his jersey.

I'd love to see him sign somewhere, but I understand why teams are hesitant. He just doesn't have a good work ethic plain and simple.

Wish granted, 1 year deal with the Caps for a meager 600k. Talk about low risk vs. high reward. Semin is regarded as a soft underachiever as by many, and yet he figures to make 10 times what Wolski signed for. This might end up being a shrewd move for the Caps, all things considered.

kmad 07-12-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 52477253)
Wish granted, 1 year deal with the Caps for a meager 600k. Talk about low risk vs. high reward. Semin is regarded as a soft underachiever as by many, and yet he figures to make 10 times what Wolski signed for. This might end up being a shrewd move for the Caps, all things considered.

Semin is probably ten times better than Wolski.

Play4Miracles* 07-12-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagorim Jarg (Post 52477305)
Semin is probably ten times better than Wolski.


So they say, but is it far fetched to imagine them both scoring 50 points next season if they stay relatively healthy and play similar roles for their respective teams?

You can pay 6 million or 600k for that.

KingJet* 07-12-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagorim Jarg (Post 52477305)
Semin is probably ten times better than Wolski.

Yeah but Wolski works harder than Semin

Lemieuxfan 07-12-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 52478017)
So they say, but is it far fetched to imagine them both scoring 50 points next season if they stay relatively healthy and play similar roles for their respective teams?

You can pay 6 million or 600k for that.

IMO Wolski could get 40-50P, if used right and if he gets much pp time. Semin on the other hand could score 82+ with the right players.

Play4Miracles* 07-12-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemieuxfan (Post 52478351)
IMO Wolski could get 40-50P, if used right and if he gets much pp time. Semin on the other hand could score 82+ with the right players.

hmmm I can't see the "players" being a problem, he's had plenty of supporting teammates throughout his career. That theory favors Wolski's, actually, if it does so for either of them.

Semin is more talented, just not 10 times more talented.

Ivan13 07-12-2012 05:51 PM

Wait are some of you really compairing Wolski to Semin? Even mentioning Semin in the same sentance as Wolski is an insult to Semin.

Ivan13 07-12-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KingJet (Post 52478231)
Yeah but Wolski works harder than Semin

:laugh:

Good one, Wolski is hands down the laziest player in the NHL by far.

Play4Miracles* 07-12-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan13 (Post 52480447)
Wait are some of you really compairing Wolski to Semin? Even mentioning Semin in the same sentance as Wolski is an insult to Semin.

Not really, but based on their careers it's not outlandish to see next season end and both of them having around 50 points. So, if the Caps get similar production out of Wolski as he takes Semin's role on the team, I mean even within 10-15 points of what Semin puts up...well...you do the math. 600k is better than 6 million.

number72 07-12-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pure (Post 52310669)
Wolski is the definition of soft.

There needs to be a better definition than soft for him. He concussed alfredsson with a nonsuspsendable hit but he is definitely lazy.

Also he is a whiz on the shootout so if he plays the season he is good for a few points from that contribution

Hivemind 07-12-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Play4Miracles (Post 52480087)
hmmm I can't see the "players" being a problem, he's had plenty of supporting teammates throughout his career. That theory favors Wolski's, actually, if it does so for either of them.

What are you talking about? Semin has spent the majority of his career playing with a variety of converted wingers and over the hill vets as his center. He's never been with Ovechkin or Backstrom on a regular basis for more than a few games at a time. He's usually been centered by the likes of Jason Arnott, Sergei Fedorov, Brendan Morrison, Tomas Fleischmann, Marcus Johansson, and Eric Belanger. Everyone on that list was either far too old, not very skilled, or a winger.

Play4Miracles* 07-12-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystlyfe (Post 52484231)
What are you talking about? Semin has spent the majority of his career playing with a variety of converted wingers and over the hill vets as his center. He's never been with Ovechkin or Backstrom on a regular basis for more than a few games at a time. He's usually been centered by the likes of Jason Arnott, Sergei Fedorov, Brendan Morrison, Tomas Fleischmann, Marcus Johansson, and Eric Belanger. Everyone on that list was either far too old, not very skilled, or a winger.


I see your point, I thought he had better linemates than that. I don't even know who Wolski's been playing on a line with over the years. I'm embarrassed to say that I am out of the loop on the very discussion I have advanced! Lol


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