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RedWingsNow* 07-08-2012 09:36 PM

EDM vs Detroit
 
Edmonton gets: Kyle Quincey
Detroit gets: Ales Hemsky


Wings get the winger they need for Pavel.
Edmonton gets a defenseman who can play lots of minutes and play on the powerplay.

Izzy 07-08-2012 09:38 PM

Hemsky is risky remember. Injuries.

AmazingNuck 07-08-2012 09:40 PM

This deal does not make sense for Detroit. They are in need of defensemen, are they not? Why would they deal one away?

oilWILDcountry 07-08-2012 09:41 PM

Politely declined. Quincey isn't worth Hemsky even when factoring the injuries.

gooilgo 07-08-2012 09:44 PM

Personally I think the Oilers look at other options when acquiring a defenseman.

Agree with an earlier poster. Makes no sense for the wings to be trading away a d man at this stage.

Wingsfan2965* 07-08-2012 09:49 PM

The problem here is that Detroit has 15 forwards under contract and only five defensemen. Makes no sense.

Kaen 07-08-2012 09:49 PM

I don't think Hemsky is the winger for Datsyuk, they are both pass first playmakers. Plus I think Detroit needs the defense, having lost Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart in the last two years.

lakai17 07-08-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaen (Post 52319163)
I don't think Hemsky is the winger for Datsyuk, they are both pass first playmakers. Plus I think Detroit needs the defense, having lost Lidstrom, Rafalski and Stuart in the last two years.

having two pass first players playing together can embarass defenceman.

Wingsfan2965* 07-08-2012 10:07 PM

Unless Detroit gets some superstar expect Franzen and Nyquist to be Datsyuk's wingers.

belair 07-08-2012 10:14 PM

The value is good, but the deal makes absolutely no sense from Detroit's POV. After this deal, their defense looks worse than Edmonton's.

Eskimo44 07-08-2012 11:03 PM

Quincey is a good player, but Hemsky can and is usually a great one. I pass on this no questions. Not a terrible proposal considering how ridiculously low his value is on here, but i really don't think it's even close. Edmonton also really doesn't need a PP dman, we had one of the top units in the league last year and added J.Schultz.

RedWingsNow* 07-09-2012 12:59 AM

Detroit can trade for another defenseman.

We have too many LHD and we need a RHD.
We're keeping Kronwall. We need Ericsson's defense. So we can suit up Kindl as third pairing LD.

Then we have White SMith and a RHD via trade.

zeus3007* 07-09-2012 01:13 AM

Not enough for me to deal Hemsky.

thadd 07-09-2012 01:19 AM

Edmonton could do worse.

vaseline stampede 07-09-2012 01:20 AM

The Oilers don't need nor want Quincey and Hemsky is not available, despite what you read on twitter.

HTT3* 07-09-2012 02:31 AM

Can Ales Hemsky play defense? If not, then what's the point?

The Nuge 07-09-2012 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HTT3 (Post 52326317)
Can Ales Hemsky play defense? If not, then what's the point?

He certainly can... So I'm not sure what point you're making...


I don't like this deal from either side to be honest

Syckle78 07-09-2012 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nuge (Post 52326623)
He certainly can... So I'm not sure what point you're making...


I don't like this deal from either side to be honest

:laugh::facepalm:

silkyjohnson50 07-09-2012 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakai17 (Post 52319615)
having two pass first players playing together can embarass defenceman.

A few years ago during an interview Datsyuk was asked if he could play with any other forward not named Zetterberg, who would he select. His answer? Joe Thornton.

Two pass first players can be a deadly combination. The puck possession would be great and they're both skilled enough to find the back of the net after playing catch with each other.


As for the poster questioning why Detroit would do this: First you have to keep in mind that the original poster hates Quincey.

The truth is though that trades are not as simple as you give us this and we'll give you that. So trading one defenceman for a forward and finding another defenceman or two in other trades, when that's your biggest need to begin with is pretty unlikely.

I do agree with his idea of upgrading top 6 skill, however. Detroit's biggest weakness heading into last postseason ended up being not enough help up front when Datsyuk wasn't 100%. I just don't find it realistic that you trade an NHL defencemen, regardless of how much you dislike him, when you're already short one.

wahoyaho 07-09-2012 03:52 AM

Please just keep Hemsky for the sake of everyone except EDM fans

GatoradeG* 07-09-2012 04:13 AM

Not good for either team.

dhawken 07-09-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nuge (Post 52326623)
He certainly can... So I'm not sure what point you're making...


I don't like this deal from either side to be honest

The poster did not mean Selke Trophy type defence, he meant Norris Trophy type defence. So no, Hemsky does not do that.

joestevens29 07-09-2012 12:49 PM

So you lose Lidstrom and Stuart, only to trade away Quincey? Doesn't make sense.


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