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Richard Murray 07-14-2012 01:07 PM

Freddie Hamilton
 
Does he make the Sharks this year? Coming off an impressive playoff in the OHL and reg season. Does he have the tools to crack the top 9 next season?

Sharksfan83 07-14-2012 01:20 PM

No, or at least, it'd be extremely extremely doubtful.

CommanderShepard15 07-14-2012 01:28 PM

doubtful

likely 1-2 ahl seasons with injury call up time befores hes a regular NHLer

Nighthock 07-14-2012 02:57 PM

not a chance

KirbyDots 07-14-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nighthock (Post 52542851)
not a chance

Nice avatar!

TheJuxtaposer 07-14-2012 03:13 PM

I expect at least one year in the AHL. Then a tweener year, then full-time 3rd liner duty.

Nighthock 07-14-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KirbyDots (Post 52543243)
Nice avatar!

I'm so damn excited for Sunday. I really am.

GCB2000 07-14-2012 05:40 PM

Take couture, who is probably a notch above Hamilton talent wise, was sent to AHL first for at least a half a year of seasoning.

Comparing the two's 4 year OHL stats they seem to be more similar than one might think given where each was drafted.

Player Games Goals Points
Couture 232 111 287
Hamilton 258 108 252

Barrie22 07-14-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GCB2000 (Post 52546527)
Take couture, who is probably a notch above Hamilton talent wise, was sent to AHL first for at least a half a year of seasoning.

Comparing the two's 4 year OHL stats they seem to be more similar than one might think given where each was drafted.

Player Games Goals Points
Couture 232 111 287
Hamilton 258 108 252

Wasnt hamilton a late bloomer in the ohl? While couture was here i am im great, this what you get.

The only reason couture went so low in the draft is because of his injury issues. If it wasnt for those he was looking to be a 1st or 2nd overall pick.

TheJuxtaposer 07-14-2012 06:17 PM

I don't really care what junior stats say, Hamilton will never be close to Couture's NHL production.

Fistfullofbeer 07-14-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer (Post 52547397)
I don't really care what junior stats say, Hamilton will never be close to Couture's NHL production.

That's pretty absolute there Nostradamus.

TheJuxtaposer 07-14-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fistfullofbeer (Post 52547573)
That's pretty absolute there Nostradamus.

I would bet everything I own that Hamilton will never have a 30 goal, 70 point season. It's pretty absolute. ;)

Inub0i 07-14-2012 06:41 PM

I don't think so. A year or 2 in the A would bode him well. But right now, he's not NHL ready.

Rickety Cricket 07-14-2012 07:02 PM

I'd rather the Sharks let him spend multiple years in the AHL developing. Obviously they'd bring him up sooner if they feel he's ready, but I don't want to rush him.

Hab Shark 07-14-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nighthock (Post 52546413)
I'm so damn excited for Sunday. I really am.

No way Hamilton plays this coming season in San Jose and can't frickin wait for Sunday night either!!!

SnarkAttack 07-14-2012 11:11 PM

I could see Hamilton making the jump at some point next year. Assuming the Sharks see him as a 3rd liner they could bring him up and not completely kill his growth by playing him out of position. It's not like a top line player that will be asked to play a whole different game on the 3rd or 4th lines so bringing him up would be a mistake. He will play a sound defensive game without a whole bunch of points which is perfect for lines 3 and 4.

Not saying he will or won't, or can or can't, just that it's more likely based on where I see his role ending up in the NHL.

Barrie22 07-15-2012 12:26 AM

Why would playing a player on the 3rd or 4th line kill a players developement? Just look at the sharks very own 1st line center and you will see it doesnt hurt nothing, it will in some cases help because the lower lines teach players defense.

Mafoofoo 07-15-2012 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Barrie22 (Post 52555403)
Why would playing a player on the 3rd or 4th line kill a players developement? Just look at the sharks very own 1st line center and you will see it doesnt hurt nothing, it will in some cases help because the lower lines teach players defense.

I'm pretty sure most prospects/young players playing on lower lines, don't have the talent Joe Thornton had at that age.

hohosaregood 07-15-2012 12:55 AM

Well there's also the fact that Tmac does power v power so Hamilton would probably play against 3rd line quality players if he did play in the NHL.

SignThornton 07-15-2012 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer (Post 52547833)
I would bet everything I own that Hamilton will never have a 30 goal, 70 point season. It's pretty absolute. ;)

Unlikely maybe but not far fetched. I say 25 goals and around the 55 pt level is realistic. He's not playing with the big boys this year I agree but I think it could be possible the following year.

Led Zappa 07-15-2012 11:17 AM

Pavelski started on the 3rd line and most people here said he'd never play on the 2nd line on most teams and assuredly not on the Sharks as long as Thornton and Marleau were on the team.

SJeasy 07-15-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Led Zappa (Post 52561915)
Pavelski started on the 3rd line and most people here said he'd never play on the 2nd line on most teams and assuredly not on the Sharks as long as Thornton and Marleau were on the team.

I was not one of those people, but a few years ago most did not value players like Callahan and Drury as much as they do now. Jack of all trades type of players. If you watched UWisc when Pavs was there, you could see he was being used in that utility role although he was still their #1c. He was absolutely central to their play in all three areas, ES, PK and PP.

magic school bus 07-15-2012 05:25 PM

Unless you're a high, high-end prospect, it usually at least a year to adjust to playing against men. Maybe next year though.

murdock1116 07-16-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie22 (Post 52555403)
Why would playing a player on the 3rd or 4th line kill a players developement? Just look at the sharks very own 1st line center and you will see it doesnt hurt nothing, it will in some cases help because the lower lines teach players defense.

Mostly because 3rd and 4th lines are used for defensive/energy purposes.

Most prospects have nhl skill but don't have experience/knowledge/strength.

If you put a prospect prematurely on the 3rd or 4th line they won't be of any use because they'll be out muscled. Then what happens is that prospect starts to lose confidence in their game. And once the confidence goes the development stops.

Certain prospects like Joe Pavelski already had great hockey IQ both offensive and defensive. No one knew that he would develop the skill he has today. Also since he played 4 years of college, he had a much more NHL ready body. He was 23 when he came into the league

Nieto and Hamilton are only 20. Lots of maturity to come in 3 years for them.

Rem 07-16-2012 02:52 PM

Stop the speculation, Sharks fans.

We all know he's gonna get sent away in a package deal for some piece of crap anyway.


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