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DirtyDion03 07-21-2012 10:27 AM

How Much Will Kessel Make?
 
Please don't turn this into a Phil Kessel is leaving Toronto thread.

When Phil's current contract is up, how much does he get if he stays with the Leafs? How much does he get if he tests the market?

I say if he stays with the Leafs he could get something like 5 year / 35 million. Or higher depending on the CBA.

If he goes to UFA, I can only imagine what some teams would pay for him.. I think we could see some ridiculous contracts..

Corleone 07-21-2012 10:30 AM

They need to lock him up before he starts thinking about UFA possibilities. He should make 6-7 million a season. If he goes to UFA, he'll make Parise type money even though he's not as well rounded (lol) as Parise.

7even 07-21-2012 10:32 AM

North of 7 million given his comparables, probably more when you factor in cap inflation.

Volcanologist 07-21-2012 10:32 AM

He'll get the term maximum under the new CBA, with at least a 6.5-7 mill cap hit. He's a primo player and will command that sort of salary.

diceman934 07-21-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDion03 (Post 52787797)
Please don't turn this into a Phil Kessel is leaving Toronto thread.

When Phil's current contract is up, how much does he get if he stays with the Leafs? How much does he get if he tests the market?

I say if he stays with the Leafs he could get something like 5 year / 35 million. Or higher depending on the CBA.

If he goes to UFA, I can only imagine what some teams would pay for him.. I think we could see some ridiculous contracts..

He will cost the Leafs a lot more than that.

I say if it is a 5 year deal it will be around the 43 million mark.

number72 07-21-2012 10:36 AM

As low as Briere/Statsny 6.5M and as high as Parise/Stamkos 7.5M.
The other question is the term - 7 year Burke contract or a 14 year retirement contract?

Sundinisagod 07-21-2012 10:37 AM

Do we have to wait til the end of the season to start contract extension talks???

Assuming so, if he were to equal his last season...7mil x 5 or 6 years is my guess. Another great season like the last definately puts him in the 7 million per range.

TMLKesselftw 07-21-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman934 (Post 52787937)
He will cost the Leafs a lot more than that.

I say if it is a 5 year deal it will be around the 43 million mark.

That's Sidney Crosby type money... 8.6 million a year. I love Kessel and think he's worth a lot, but I'm thinking closer to 7 million, maybe 7.5

Paris in Flames 07-21-2012 10:39 AM

I'd estimate 7 million a season but things can change.

Aplayaz2000 07-21-2012 10:39 AM

as an elite player will deserve maybe 8 smackers

RogerRoeper* 07-21-2012 10:39 AM

7 million+ per.

Christ 07-21-2012 10:39 AM

Call me crazy but I expect that the comming CBA agreement may have an impact on how much Kessel winds up making...that and how well he produces over the next two seasons. Way to early to speculate.

Sundinisagod 07-21-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman934 (Post 52787937)
He will cost the Leafs a lot more than that.

I say if it is a 5 year deal it will be around the 43 million mark.


8.6 per season? Maybe if he wins the Rocket Richard and Conn Smythe in the same season, probably need an Art Ross on top of that even...even then i'd bet against it being that high.

HenryH 07-21-2012 10:41 AM

Somewhere between 6.75 to 7.5 mill probably if he can still get 75+ points in close to a full 82 games.

Sundinisagod 07-21-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Christ (Post 52788049)
Call me crazy but I expect that the comming CBA agreement may have an impact on how much Kessel winds up making...that and how well he produces over the next two seasons. Way to early to speculate.


We can re-sign him to an extension next summer, I think??? (please correct if I'm wrong). In that case I don't think it's early to start speculating...

Iceybigbucks 07-21-2012 10:44 AM

If the NHL changes the rules and allows players to interfere with the path of a players, it might affect the way he is allowed to use open ice, hence him being maybe a little less effective, if the rules stay the same his value increases.

diceman934 07-21-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TMLKesselftw (Post 52788007)
That's Sidney Crosby type money... 8.6 million a year. I love Kessel and think he's worth a lot, but I'm thinking closer to 7 million, maybe 7.5

I 'm just stating that if the term is 5 years they will have to pay what others have been getting ......now if it was a 10-12 year deal the average amount would drop down to around the 7.5 to 8 million amount.

Kessel will want to be paid a lot more then 35 million over 5 years. He signed for 27 million over 5 years in his current contract. Average of 5.4 million. So he will want to be paid a lot more than that!

Grant 07-21-2012 10:50 AM

If Burke is the GM doing the signing, he seems to do a max of 5 years on his contracts. Thus there is no cap circumventing whatsoever. Personally I would be shocked to see him sign for less than 7m.

diceman934 07-21-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundinisagod (Post 52788071)
8.6 per season? Maybe if he wins the Rocket Richard and Conn Smythe in the same season, probably need an Art Ross on top of that even...even then i'd bet against it being that high.

Lets be clear.....I'm stating what he will sign for as he over valued himself before and will do so again. I do not think he is worth this amount in any way!

TMLKesselftw 07-21-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman934 (Post 52788283)
I 'm just stating that if the term is 5 years they will have to pay what others have been getting ......now if it was a 10-12 year deal the average amount would drop down to around the 7.5 to 8 million amount.

Kessel will want to be paid a lot more then 35 million over 5 years. He signed for 27 million over 5 years in his current contract. Average of 5.4 million. So he will want to be paid a lot more than that!

You make it seem like an extra 8 million over 5 years isn't much of a pay upgrade...

diceman934 07-21-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TMLKesselftw (Post 52788375)
You make it seem like an extra 8 million over 5 years isn't much of a pay upgrade...

You are correct....Kessel will not see this as a huge upgrade in Salary.....

Me I say that he should only get 6.75 to 7.25 a year range.....

IBeL13f 07-21-2012 11:01 AM

5 years, $36 million, $7.2 million annual cap hit

Leaf Rocket 07-21-2012 11:03 AM

6.6 - 7 mil.

TMLKesselftw 07-21-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by diceman934 (Post 52788475)
You are correct....Kessel will not see this as a huge upgrade in Salary.....

Me I say that he should only get 6.75 to 7.25 a year range.....

Pretty sure Kessel is not the same as he was in his years in Boston... Even if he is, he came back from cancer to put up 36 goals... Is it so much to expect more then the low-ball offer he supposedly received from chiarelli (sp?).

Suntouchable13 07-21-2012 11:04 AM

If this year will be another basement dwelling year, I don't see why he would even consider signing an extension. The Leafs have to show him that they can put a winning team on the ice, and he has to prove that he can be a prime time player on a playoff team. So far he has been a prime time player on a mediocre to bad team. Can he be a top dog on a team that has aspirations of not only making the playoffs but winning the cup as well?


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