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StrictlyCommercial 07-21-2012 05:41 PM

Canucks 2012 Prospect Rankings - #7
 
Added Ludwig Blomstrand

Canucks Prospects Rankings:
1. Zack Kassian (65%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1230191
2. Nicklas Jensen (58%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1230923
3. Chris Tanev (50%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1232027
4. Eddie Lack (63%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1232603
5. Jordan Schroeder (70%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1233221
6. Brendan Gaunce - (68%) - http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1233885

Mason10 07-21-2012 05:43 PM

Corrardo

StrictlyCommercial 07-21-2012 05:44 PM

This is a tough call, but I went with Cannata. I think he has NHL starter potential and had the best season last year of almost all our prospects.

Pseudonymous 07-21-2012 05:46 PM

Friesen!

Intoewsables 07-21-2012 05:46 PM

I'll probably be the only one voting for him this early, but give me Joseph LaBate.

Tiranis 07-21-2012 05:46 PM

Corrado has the potential to be a #2 guy and at the very worst will bottom out as a #5 guy. Smart, poised (not unlike Tanev in these two areas), offensively skilled, plus he has a booming shot. Hard to believe we snagged him in the 5th round.

His biggest challenge will be putting on some weight and getting stronger, he's got a pretty small frame despite his height.

denkiteki 07-21-2012 05:48 PM

Cannata just because of his college numbers. Comparison to Cam Ward and could put Cory in an interesting situation (if Lack doesn't) a couple years down the road.:laugh:

VinnyC 07-21-2012 05:52 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if either K-Con, Cannata or Corrado made it at #7. The three Canuck C's! :naughty:

Tiranis 07-21-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VinnyC (Post 52797471)
Wouldn't be surprised if either K-Con, Cannata or Corrado made it at #7. The three Canuck C's! :naughty:

Truly don't get people voting for Connauton. He's got a long road ahead of him to even make it as a bottom pairing guy. Major decision making issues and is not a natural puck-mover, more a PP specialist. If folks think Ballard doesn't fit our system, wait until you see Connauton.

WinterEmpire 07-21-2012 05:57 PM

Can someone explain to me why Kevin Connauton doesn't get much love? I'm not really too well-versed in NHL prospects besides the major ones but what has K-Conn done wrong exactly? I understand that he wasn't very highly touted as a prospect when he was drafted but every year he's improved leaps and bounds. He was the only one of our AHL prospects to make the All-Star game. And he's still only 22.

Pseudonymous 07-21-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WinterEmpire (Post 52797597)
Can someone explain to me why Kevin Connauton doesn't get much love? I'm not really too well-versed in NHL prospects besides the major ones but what has K-Conn done wrong exactly? I understand that he wasn't very highly touted as a prospect when he was drafted but every year he's improved leaps and bounds. He was the only one of our AHL prospects to make the All-Star game. And he's still only 22.

Agreed, Hes my pick after Friesen. I think Friesen could be called up this year! and probably be playing pretty regularly next year, so thats why im saying hes above the rest right now. Hes a sure bet to make the 3rd line. Everyone else is a huge gamble.

Haven't watched Corrado enough to put him ahead of Connauton, plus ive never been a fan of smaller D's, dont usually have as high of chances of becoming a regular top 4 D. not saying there isn't quite a few of them but they just have better chances if theyre 6'2 and have a meanstreak like Connauton. then atleast you know he'll play the 5-6 D role if they dont make the top 4

Tiranis 07-21-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WinterEmpire (Post 52797597)
Can someone explain to me why Kevin Connauton doesn't get much love? I'm not really too well-versed in NHL prospects besides the major ones but what has K-Conn done wrong exactly? I understand that he wasn't very highly touted as a prospect when he was drafted but every year he's improved leaps and bounds. He was the only one of our AHL prospects to make the All-Star game. And he's still only 22.

- mediocre hockey IQ
- not a puck-mover, has a pretty mediocre-to-bad outlet pass
- only skates well in a straight line, bad lateral movement
- inconsistent physically, when he does hit often gets out of position to do it

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Originally Posted by pseudonymous01 (Post 52797707)
Agreed, Hes my pick after Friesen. I think Friesen could be called up this year! and probably be playing pretty regularly next year, so thats why im saying hes above the rest right now. Hes a sure bet to make the 3rd line. Everyone else is a huge gamble.

Haven't watched Corrado enough to put him ahead of Connauton, plus ive never been a fan of smaller D's, dont usually have as high of chances of becoming a regular top 4 D. not saying there isn't quite a few of them but they just have better chances if theyre 6'2 and have a meanstreak like Connauton. then atleast you know he'll play the 5-6 D role if they dont make the top 4

Corrado is 6'2"... which makes him taller than Hamhuis, Bieksa, and Ballard.

Pseudonymous 07-21-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiranis (Post 52797779)

Corrado is 6'2"... which makes him taller than Hamhuis, Bieksa, and Ballard.

Is he? Oh i read on a couple sites hes 6 foot (canucks official site) That definitely helps my opinion

Hamhuis is an amazing skater and one of the best defensive d's in the league and bieksa is a tough son of a *****. Ballard is also super thick and throws huge hip checks and willing to drop the gloves. When you dont play a rough game and not the best defensive d in the league, and you just do everything right like Tanev, hard to make it into the top 4 as a regular , its possible sure.

Tiranis 07-21-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseudonymous01 (Post 52797825)
Is he? Oh i read on a couple sites hes 6 foot (canucks official site) That definitely helps my opinion

He grew since being drafted. http://www.sudburywolves.com/roster/show/id/1572

Intoewsables 07-21-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseudonymous01 (Post 52797707)
Agreed, Hes my pick after Friesen. I think Friesen could be called up this year! and probably be playing pretty regularly next year, so thats why im saying hes above the rest right now. Hes a sure bet to make the 3rd line. Everyone else is a huge gamble.

I'd be surprised to see Friesen filling a 3rd line role at any point in his career, let alone next season.

edit: May have read that wrong.

Pseudonymous 07-21-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intoewsables (Post 52797939)
I'd be surprised to see Friesen filling a 3rd line role at any point in his career, let alone next season.

yeah probably right, given the team, he'll probably get thrown onto the 4th line next season and work his way up to the 3rd. but i do see him seeing some nhl action this season if we have injuries in the bottom 6

when i say next season, i mean 2013-14

wonder how many people expected Hansen to be a great 3rd liner not long after entering the AHL before he suited up for the moose

Tiranis 07-21-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseudonymous01 (Post 52797825)
Is he? Oh i read on a couple sites hes 6 foot (canucks official site) That definitely helps my opinion

Hamhuis is an amazing skater and one of the best defensive d's in the league and bieksa is a tough son of a *****. Ballard is also super thick and throws huge hip checks and willing to drop the gloves. When you dont play a rough game and not the best defensive d in the league, and you just do everything right like Tanev, hard to make it into the top 4 as a regular , its possible sure.

Corrado is an amazing skater, was voted the 4th best defenseman in the OHL, and has a 100+ mph snapshot.


thefeebster 07-21-2012 06:19 PM

This in my opinion should just boil down to Corrado and Cannata. Can make arguments again for both of them. I don't believe Connauton should go in the next 3 spots, but that's just me.

Corrado in his few games in the AHL adapted way better than Connauton did in his first pro season. The main thing being his hockey sense and skating ability, two things that are going to give him the leg up and a higher chance to making it to the NHL. Corrado as we've said in previous comparisons is very much like Tanev in his smart positioning and defense - uses his stick and positioning to contain forwards and does so smartly. Except i see a bit of feistiness in Corrado than I do Tanev, in a way that if he had more muscle or stength he'd throw out some more hits. And if you guys remember in the middle of the season Corrado is not afraid of standing up for his team-mates, similar to Connauton. Fought Jared Tinordi, giving up about 5-6 inches because his teammate got nailed and he in turn got the **** kicked out of him. For his offensive game, I don't see Corrado as a natural PP QB, but can pass and shoot on the 2nd unit. His willingness to shoot and the speed of his shot are good signs. He just needs to get it on net more.

Cannata had a superb College run, and warrants the praise he gets there plus the comparisons to Schneider. The main difference being Schneider played for a powerhouse and Cannata played for one of the worst teams in the prior 20 years before he came. Cannata changed the face of that team and was arguably "the" major factor for their turnaround. You want to see sad fans because of his graduation, you can go view the Merrimack thread on USCHO. I'm not a good assessor of Goalies, but i think he sees the puck really well through traffic and makes a good first save. Chose Corrado only due to the uncertainty with goaltenders. So many falter, but i think Cannata has good potential but will need around 3 years like Schneids.

Kass Effect 07-21-2012 06:23 PM

McNally for me. Corrado is a nice maybe 2-way d-man, but to me, McNally is the only shot we have at a stud d-man: highest offensive potential we have at D, as I think Connauton is somewhat of a 1-trick pony. I select Corrado at #8, he seems like a safer pick but a tier below what McNally could become.

Pseudonymous 07-21-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiranis (Post 52798031)
Corrado is an amazing skater, was voted the 4th best defenseman in the OHL, and has a 100+ mph snapshot.


He looks good but we'll see, the nhl is a whole different world. The strength and skill of nhl players.

Ill wait until I see him in some pre season games before I rank him higher than guys with a physical edge to their game that i know can handle the body. Corrado has only played 6 games in the AHL

Im still not even sold on tanev ever being a top 4. Hes good all around and pretty smart but so far, it only looks smart enough to make up for him being pretty soft. Hes still young so im giving him time, but he hasn't sold me yet. If tanev doesn't keep growing in his game, he might not even maintain a bottom 2 role simply because alot of teams like physicality in their bottom 2. If tanev doesn't learn its okay to throw the puck on the net sometimes, his soft game isn't going be something i want in my lineup.

King of Anarchy 07-21-2012 06:30 PM

If Frankie Corrado doesn't win this round, I'm going to be very disappointed in all of you.

Jevo 07-21-2012 06:43 PM

Corrado for me. In my eyes he is by far our best D-prospect apart form Tanev, a true steal. He needs to start using his shot more and develop his offensive game this year in Sudbury. He developed a lot defensively last year, so hopefully offence will come this year.

thefeebster 07-21-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterEmpire (Post 52797597)
Can someone explain to me why Kevin Connauton doesn't get much love? I'm not really too well-versed in NHL prospects besides the major ones but what has K-Conn done wrong exactly? I understand that he wasn't very highly touted as a prospect when he was drafted but every year he's improved leaps and bounds. He was the only one of our AHL prospects to make the All-Star game. And he's still only 22.

I think he gets his fair share of love on the boards as we can see from the poll, but for me I think i'd just like to see a bit more from him offensively as that's his main strength and I am not sure if his decision making will translate to the NHL. It might be only fractions of a second faster, but it can make a difference for guys who at times struggle with defense.

That said, Connauton surely improved this season and is a good prospect. The biggest improvements were the way MacT simplified Connauton's defense and his better skating ability (backwards namely). It was more chip it out or bank it off the glass kind of defense, but also allowed him to rush the puck as he likes. His main defensive tool is his stick, stopped a lot of plays by getting it in passing lanes. Connauton had a ton of responsibility this year, played in all situations and looked fairly well. He was on the 2nd PK and 1st PP. Which also at the root of why i'd like to see more from him. After Oct, he got placed on the 1st unit. He got a **** ton of time playing on the PP and although most of his points were PP points, he didn't rack up a lot of points as one would like in that situation and the PP struggled throughout the year.

Connauton played his best defense and offense with Tanev. After Tanev got called up, he played with Baumer and it was a bit of a see-saw ride. Orcatown suggested there was a possible injury, possible but not confirmed, but there was definitely a decrease in the level of his play. Wasn't jumping up as much and teams were playing his shot more aggressively. Couple this with some shaky defense with Baumer... it wasn't the best ending to the season.

Derp Kassian 07-21-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intoewsables (Post 52797939)
I'd be surprised to see Friesen filling a 3rd line role at any point in his career, let alone next season.

Many have said that if Friesen reaches his potential he could be a great shutdown C. And I know Jeff Angus is usually ridiculous with his comparisons but he brought up Mike Peca.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King of Anarchy (Post 52798381)
If Frankie Corrado doesn't win this round, I'm going to be very disappointed in all of you.

I'd vote for him if I could, lOoks like a real gem the scouts have found.

Anybody got an NHL comparison that comes to mind?

canuck4life16 07-21-2012 07:00 PM

none of our Defenseman have Number 1 potential?

Is k-con and nally our best offensive defenseman?


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