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IceCapsNation 07-23-2012 07:51 AM

Festerling signs in DEL
 
Brett Festerling has signed overseas in the DEL.

best of luck Brett!

http://icetigers.de/content/ice-tige...-n%C3%BCrnberg

DespoticNewt 07-23-2012 07:53 AM

Our AHL corps are being decimated, aren't they. Flood, Kulda, Festerling... I can only guess that they weren't in the long term plans of the organization.

tbcwpg 07-23-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DespoticNewt (Post 52837187)
Our AHL corps are being decimated, aren't they. Flood, Kulda, Festerling... I can only guess that they weren't in the long term plans of the organization.

Two of the 3 were AHL guys, nothing more. I think making some room for the prospects is a good thing, more responsibility for guys like Redmond.

ByeBye 07-23-2012 08:25 AM

Any thoughts on Festerling? I'd be especially interested in his skating abilities and offensive upside (not judging by NHL standards, of course).

*edit: Oh and by the way, it's not a rumor anymore. See (German) source.

IceCapsNation 07-23-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nuernberger (Post 52837469)
Any thoughts on Festerling? I'd be especially interested in his skating abilities and offensive upside (not judging by NHL standards, of course).

*edit: Oh and by the way, it's not a rumor anymore. See (German) source.


Thanks nuernberger

I watched Festerling play all last season, he can throw some spectacular hits. Although I'm unfarmiliar with the style of play in your league, his hitting maybe inaffective if it's generally not part of the style there.

He's not an offencive dynamo, but he's not a bust either. He's a shut-down d-man who tends to chase the big hits and occasionally gets caught out of position (Phaneuf like). However, if he can connect on the hip-check, it resulted in large cheers from our full house of 6,300 :yo:

He's a great pro player, but not a stand out elite player (NHL). I base that one AHL, DEL, SEL etc.. being Pro, and NHL being Elite.

Gump Hasek 07-23-2012 09:09 AM

This is clearly being done intentionally. Flood, Festerling, & Kulda leaving allows the TNSE regime to begin grooming younger players, a new crop as it were. It allows Melchiori, O'Neil, and perhaps Chiarot/Sol/someone else the chance to step into the regular lineup full time. Postma on a one-way deal also allows Redmond to move into that #1 spot.

The IceCaps will probably struggle for awhile but grooming the new guard is not a bad thing. An added bonus will be that Pasquale will see a ton of pucks.
:D

puck stoppa 07-23-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gump Hasek (Post 52837985)
This is clearly being done intentionally. Flood, Festerling, & Kulda leaving allows the TNSE regime to begin grooming younger players, a new crop as it were. It allows Melchiori, O'Neil, and perhaps Chiarot/Sol/someone else the chance to step into the regular lineup full time. Postma on a one-way deal also allows Redmond to move into that #1 spot.

The IceCaps will probably struggle for awhile but grooming the new guard is not a bad thing. An added bonus will be that Pasquale will see a ton of pucks.
:D

I agree 100%. I can't wait to see some of those young guys as regular pros especially Melchiori and Sol. I think Postma is ready as well, he will definitely help our PP this year.

GrandChelems 07-23-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gump Hasek (Post 52837985)
This is clearly being done intentionally. Flood, Festerling, & Kulda leaving allows the TNSE regime to begin grooming younger players, a new crop as it were. It allows Melchiori, O'Neil, and perhaps Chiarot/Sol/someone else the chance to step into the regular lineup full time. Postma on a one-way deal also allows Redmond to move into that #1 spot.

The IceCaps will probably struggle for awhile but grooming the new guard is not a bad thing. An added bonus will be that Pasquale will see a ton of pucks.
:D

How do you know the bolded is the case, though? To me it looks like players accepting better contracts and more playing time, i.e. their decision not the Jets.

Gump Hasek 07-23-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandChelems (Post 52839517)
How do you know the bolded is the case, though? To me it looks like players accepting better contracts and more playing time, i.e. their decision not the Jets.

I make that assumption because it is fairly obvious that none of the players that left had much of an NHL future here - despite being on two-way deals in the case of Flood/Kulda (not sure about Festerling). Flood was unable to take a spot despite being given a full year of opportunity to do so; he was just an emergency backup. I like Kulda but he is easily replaceable and he slotted in quite low on the depth chart despite many years of service. Festerling never really even got a sniff. They left because they could see that Postma and Redmond passed them on the chart. The Jets allowed them to leave (perhaps likely even facilitated their departure) to free up NHL contract spaces. I think they are only allowed 50 cts at any one time IIRC. You grant those cts to people you feel will eventually play on your team.

garret9 07-23-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gump Hasek (Post 52839999)
I make that assumption because it is fairly obvious that none of the players that left had much of an NHL future here - despite being on two-way deals in the case of Flood/Kulda (not sure about Festerling). Flood was unable to take a spot despite being given a full year of opportunity to do so; he was just an emergency backup. I like Kulda but he is easily replaceable and he slotted in quite low on the depth chart despite many years of service. Festerling never really even got a sniff. They left because they could see that Postma and Redmond passed them on the chart. The Jets allowed them to leave (perhaps likely even facilitated their departure) to free up NHL contract spaces. I think they are only allowed 50 cts at any one time IIRC. You grant those cts to people you feel will eventually play on your team.

Chevy said he negotiated with all of their players from last year except Jones. He also gave qualifying offers to all RFAs except Fehr.
Sounds like they did have plans with them, but not what some of them wanted. In the end the players did what they thought was best for them.

cheswick 07-23-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nuernberger (Post 52837469)
Any thoughts on Festerling? I'd be especially interested in his skating abilities and offensive upside (not judging by NHL standards, of course).

*edit: Oh and by the way, it's not a rumor anymore. See (German) source.

He's considered a defensive defenseman.

manniaaron 07-23-2012 01:58 PM

that logo for that del team is bad just ugly. even the echl thinks that logo is cheesey

Gump Hasek 07-23-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by garret9 (Post 52842761)
Chevy said he negotiated with all of their players from last year except Jones. He also gave qualifying offers to all RFAs except Fehr.
Sounds like they did have plans with them, but not what some of them wanted. In the end the players did what they thought was best for them.

Yes, he did. There are also distinctly different ways to negotiate however. If the Jets truly wanted to keep those players then they would now be under contract. While a qualifying offer is a basic contract with standardized terms, player agents also get a direct hint to the possibilities of future advancement during negotiations with management. That the players walked despite being offered qualifying contracts meant that they could see their (likely to be AHL) future on the wall.

So yes, indeed the team did probably have plans for them, only minor ones it appears. Implying to a player that they've only a limited future is a way to indirectly show them the door.

WJG 07-23-2012 02:13 PM

With Redmond, Melchiori, O'Neill and maybe Sol playing regular minutes next year, it makes sense for them to clear some defensemen out.

I don't think they expected losing Kulda though.

cheswick 07-23-2012 03:09 PM

Chevy was high on Flood last season. Stating at one point that he didn't want to put him on waivers cause he thought he would be taken.

Anyone know what the pay is like in the DEL or KHL for these types of players?

Flood was on a 2 way paying 175 / 525 last season

puck stoppa 07-23-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cheswick (Post 52853857)
Chevy was high on Flood last season. Stating at one point that he didn't want to put him on waivers cause he thought he would be taken.

Anyone know what the pay is like in the DEL or KHL for these types of players?

Flood was on a 2 way paying 175 / 525 last season

It varies but imports with NHL experience can make between 200-400 thousand dollars in DEL and Swiss League. KHL can overpay their players in some cases. And remember that its tax free cause the club covers the taxes.

DuckJet 07-23-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nuernberger (Post 52837469)
Any thoughts on Festerling? I'd be especially interested in his skating abilities and offensive upside (not judging by NHL standards, of course).

*edit: Oh and by the way, it's not a rumor anymore. See (German) source.

In my viewing, I'd say he was never going to be an NHLer


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