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Takao 07-23-2012 10:57 PM

All Purpose Trades/UFA/Roster Discussion Thread (Happy DVM?) Part III
 
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Sabretip 07-23-2012 11:58 PM

Is it a given that the Ducks won't trade Ryan unless they get a 2nd line center as part of the return?

Exit Dose 07-24-2012 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretip (Post 52886839)
Is it a given that the Ducks won't trade Ryan unless they get a 2nd line center as part of the return?

It appears to be what everyone is saying. I believe Brooks brought up that it would take Stepan, Portzline said Johansen, and a bunch of people, including LeBrun I believe, said we wanted Schenn when Homer asked.

Exit Dose 07-24-2012 12:16 AM

According to Twitter, Bobby hates Breaking Bad. Looks like someone needs to be traded. ;)

Duck Off 07-24-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabretip (Post 52886839)
Is it a given that the Ducks won't trade Ryan unless they get a 2nd line center as part of the return?

I really think that's wishful thinking on our part. For what its worth Dregger believes it's a must. I hope it is, but for whatever reason, I get the feeling it's not a must for Murray.

What is a must is the following:

-Must make the team better NOW, and in the future. -From the GM himself.

-I don't think a defenseman will be a key piece coming back. Regardless if we like it or not, Murray has addressed the defense. If anything, I think Lydman will be moved to make room for one of Vatanen or Lindholm.

I think based on what Murray's said is that if Ryan is moved, it will be for two top six forwards and a prospect or pick. Preferably one of those is a center.

Oh and the pieces coming back would have to be young, or at least same age as Ryan.

Paul4587 07-24-2012 01:47 AM

If we could get two young good 2nd line wingers (preferably LWers) then Murray may consider it. But yeah, a 2nd line centre is definitely our biggest need.

The reason he would be traded is to fill the 2nd line centre spot or to give us quality depth. Not crappy 3rd/4th line depth but decent enough depth to run three legit scoring lines.

mightyquack 07-24-2012 04:52 AM

If we weren't demanding a center for Ryan I'd be willing to bet Ryan would be gone already. Would be 100% shocked if Ryan is traded without a #2 center coming back.

Lord Flashheart 07-24-2012 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyquack (Post 52890883)
If we weren't demanding a center for Ryan I'd be willing to bet Ryan would be gone already. Would be 100% shocked if Ryan is traded without a #2 center coming back.

I'd say that's very much true.

Gibson Les Palms 07-24-2012 12:01 PM

Ryan would have to be a 50 goal player for us to even to hope to get the 18 point centre or 27 point centre :facepalm:

airforceones25 07-24-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus Teemu (Post 52900341)
Ryan would have to be a 50 goal player for us to even to hope to get the 18 point centre or 27 point centre :facepalm:

careful replying to this will get you infracted. lol

I love how Flyer fans can continually knock Ryan call fans idiots and we are being unreasonable. Lol

I can't win

snarktacular 07-24-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus Teemu (Post 52900341)
Ryan would have to be a 50 goal player for us to even to hope to get the 18 point centre or 27 point centre :facepalm:

But you can have the 47 point undrafted non-center who no one expected would be good and the 25 point underachieving defenseman on his third team and a bad back instead (but he looked good with Pronger/Timonen!)!

Lord Flashheart 07-24-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snarktacular (Post 52903139)
But you can have the 47 point undrafted non-center who no one expected would be good and the 25 point underachieving defenseman on his third team and a bad back instead (but he looked good with Pronger/Timonen!)!

Now that you put it that way, we need to add a pick, or prospect, as well!

Exit Dose 07-24-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snarktacular (Post 52903139)
But you can have the 47 point undrafted non-center who no one expected would be good and the 25 point underachieving defenseman on his third team and a bad back instead (but he looked good with Pronger/Timonen!)!

The Preds matched the offer sheet, so I assume it's just going to get worse.

airforceones25 07-24-2012 02:25 PM

lolololololololololololololol Preds match...

Thousands of posts of Flyer fans saying it's impossible to match! Eat crow....

Now their effort will turn into thousands of more terrible proposals of the exact same trade of Mezaros, Read/Voracek and a pick for Ryan. :facepalm:

thecloser 07-24-2012 05:47 PM

Predators fan here, I was just wondering what you guys would think if we were to offer the following:

Patric Hornqvist
2013 1st rounder
Either Blum/Ellis
for
Bobby Ryan

Just thought I'd ask.

Gliff 07-24-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecloser (Post 52920367)
Predators fan here, I was just wondering what you guys would think if we were to offer the following:

Patric Hornqvist
2013 1st rounder
Either Blum/Ellis
for
Bobby Ryan

Just thought I'd ask.

Hornqvist+Wilson

Wilson+1st+Blum

Gibsons Finest 07-24-2012 06:08 PM

I love how Flyers fans seem to think we're being unreasonable in asking for Schenn or Couturier. But then again, these are the same guys who didn't want to trade both for Shea Weber(seriously?) and now don't think Voracek should be traded for Ryan(soon enough Read will be better than Ryan too). Definitely love how a great amount of them insisted for a week that Nashville couldn't match.

Gibson Les Palms 07-24-2012 06:17 PM

Good for Nashville. They couldn't lose their captain. Now let's see if they move him.

airforceones25 07-24-2012 06:21 PM

Main board..

flyers -

Read/mez/1st for Ryan

read/mez/1st for yandle

read/mez/1st for kulikov


All fan bases are idiots by not thinking that is enough. No way you can have Schenn or Couturier. They are so much better than your players!

Exit Dose 07-24-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gliff (Post 52921023)
Hornqvist+Wilson

Wilson+1st+Blum

Smith. Wilson is a winger.

Gibson Les Palms 07-24-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airforceones25 (Post 52921637)
Main board..

flyers -

Read/mez/1st for Ryan

read/mez/1st for yandle

read/mez/1st for kulikov


All fan bases are idiots by not thinking that is enough. No way you can have Schenn or Couturier. They are so much better than your players!

:laugh:

It's been like that for past month or so. Some fans on twitter think that is overpayment.

snarktacular 07-24-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airforceones25 (Post 52921637)
Main board..

flyers -

Read/mez/1st for Ryan

read/mez/1st for yandle

read/mez/1st for kulikov


All fan bases are idiots by not thinking that is enough. No way you can have Schenn or Couturier. They are so much better than your players!

It seem like a lot of the time they don't even want to include a 1st. Read/Mez/3rd.

He did demand a trade away from the Ducks and will only play for the Flyers, after all.

Gibson Les Palms 07-24-2012 06:59 PM

Most Flyers fans think if they wait it out, it will come to a head and they'll get him on the cheap. No chance in hell that happens.

Vipers31 07-24-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus Teemu (Post 52922071)
:laugh:

It's been like that for past month or so. Some fans on twitter think that is overpayment.

The sad moment when you realize that HF is going to get you a better estimate and well-informed opinion than any other (major) channel. HF >>>> Twitter > Team's Facebook. It just gets more and more frustrating.

Vipers31 07-24-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snarktacular (Post 52922683)
He did demand a trade away from the Ducks and will only play for the Flyers, after all.

And if we won't give in, he's just going to sign there.



In three years. Because in an article said he liked the team. So, just book that.


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