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The Bored Warrior 07-29-2012 08:10 AM

BUF-ANA (Bobby Ryan)
 
We are going hard after Bobby Ryan seeing as how Shane Doan wants nothing to do with us. Would this be an acceptable trade package to land Ryan?

Drew Stafford RW
Luke Adam C
Daniel Catenacci C (2011 3rd Round Pick)
Mark Pysyk D (Replacement for Justin Schultz)
2014 1st Round Pick

FOR
Bobby Ryan LW
Andrew Cogliano LW

We don't give up Ennis/Hodgson/Foligno Also we don't part Andej Sekera Tell me what you think too little too much just right

HiddenInLight 07-29-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boarwarrior27 (Post 53083187)
We are going hard after Bobby Ryan seeing as how Shane Doan wants nothing to do with us. Would this be an acceptable trade package to land Ryan?

Drew Stafford RW
Luke Adam C
Daniel Catenacci C (2011 3rd Round Pick)
Mark Pysyk D (Replacement for Justin Schultz)
2014 1st Round Pick

FOR
Bobby Ryan LW
Andrew Cogliano LW

We don't give up Ennis/Hodgson/Foligno Also we don't part Andej Sekera Tell me what you think too little too much just right

Youd have to make it a 2013 pick and add a better prospect then Catenacci to stop them from laughing in your face.

SabresAreScaryGood 07-29-2012 09:01 AM

Do the DUcks have any players they would like to dump? SOrt of like Kotalik last year? It really could be what makes the Sabres attractive to teams looking to make a trade, we are willing to take on salary and just eat it.

HiddenInLight 07-29-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabresAreScaryGood (Post 53083751)
Do the DUcks have any players they would like to dump? SOrt of like Kotalik last year? It really could be what makes the Sabres attractive to teams looking to make a trade, we are willing to take on salary and just eat it.

I believe that they already dumped him. They are under the cap so they will want to take on at least 500k in salary in a deal for Ryan.

Zip15 07-29-2012 09:48 AM

We're going hard after Ryan? Says who? We don't have the 2C they covet. It's hard to imagine Murray believing Adam is their 2C answer when he was moved to wing in Rochester and played there throughout Dev Camp.

I think any serious offer for Ryan probably has to include Hodgson. And I don't see Darcy trading Hodgson any time soon.

Zip15 07-29-2012 09:56 AM

Given that some New England media were saying the Ducks wanted Krejci and one of Lucic/Hamilton, I don't think that poopoo platter comes anywhere close to getting it done.

JPurp26 07-29-2012 10:43 AM

I hate all this teasing. I wish we really were able to get it done but Roy and Adam were the bait and Roy is gone now.

I try

Sekera
Adam
Pysyk
Brennan
1st

For Ryan

I'd throw in Armia somehow if they wanted him

Sekera
Adam
Armia
Pysyk

For

Ryan

Zip15 07-29-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPurp26 (Post 53085241)
I hate all this teasing. I wish we really were able to get it done but Roy and Adam were the bait and Roy is gone now.

I try

Sekera
Adam
Pysyk
Brennan
1st

For Ryan

I'd throw in Armia somehow if they wanted him

Sekera
Adam
Armia
Pysyk

For

Ryan

People vastly overestimated the value of a Roy-Adam package. Anaheim was never going to be interested in Roy given that he was expiring the same summer as Getzlaf and Perry, and Adam's value had been surpassed by the likes of Foligno and McNabb and Hodgson.

As I've said before, we are really starting to sound like Leafs fans: "We want one of the best young goal-scorers in the game, who's signed to a reasonable deal for three more seasons, but we don't want to give up any of our best assets to get him."

vcv 07-29-2012 11:07 AM

I can't imagine the ducks would want a deal without Stafford, as an attempt to replace some of Ryan's production.

That would be on top of another top flight forward or defenseman and some picks & prospects.

Beerz 07-29-2012 11:09 AM

Hodgson
Adam
1st

Plus a roster player for salary purposes (Leino? Pardy?)
for

Ryan
Andrew Cogliano

krt88 07-29-2012 12:08 PM

Every deal for Bobby Ryan and the Sabres has Drew Stafford involed....however, it doesn't seem like there's much a market for Drew Stafford. I doubt we see Ryan in a Sabres uniform as a result because who else is the forward we are going to ofer up? Anaheim wants forwards in return.

krt88 07-29-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPurp26 (Post 53085241)
I hate all this teasing. I wish we really were able to get it done but Roy and Adam were the bait and Roy is gone now.

I try

Sekera
Adam
Pysyk
Brennan
1st

For Ryan

I'd throw in Armia somehow if they wanted him

Sekera
Adam
Armia
Pysyk

For

Ryan

3 defensemen and 1 no value forward? Really, Anaheim is looking for forwards not defensemen. This idea has ZERO SHOT!

Husko 07-29-2012 12:32 PM

Many of these deals are major overpayments, in my opinion.

Husko 07-29-2012 12:33 PM

Stafford, a prospect, and a 1st is as far as I'd go

Wisent42 07-29-2012 12:33 PM

I wish all this Ryan fuzz will just go away. We don't have the center that Anaheim wants, and the alternative seems to be throwing half our roster out west. Really? Is Ryan THAT good? More importantly - will he be THAT good in the Sabres system?

I have confident in this teambuild. It needs a tweak, not a blow up. Forget Ryan for the time being. If a trade is to be made, it should be for a reliable bottom 6-center, preferably a veteran, to back up Ennis and Hodgson for the time being. But if there's any truth to all the rumors out there, the price for Ryan will simply be way to high. And at times like this, I'm happy with a conservative, homerist GM who value his players higher than the fans do.

SabresAreScaryGood 07-29-2012 12:46 PM

Im starting to like a trade of Vanek, Adam, and Sekera going and Bobby Ryan and Koivu coming to Buffalo.

New Sabres Captain 07-29-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabresAreScaryGood (Post 53088213)
Im starting to like a trade of Vanek, Adam, and Sekera going and Bobby Ryan and Koivu coming to Buffalo.

Koivu won't waive, he wants to play with Selanne in Anaheim which is pretty much why he signed there.

SabresAreScaryGood 07-29-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrigsAndGirgs (Post 53088247)
Koivu won't waive, he wants to play with Selanne in Anaheim which is pretty much why he signed there.

Almost signed here 2-3 years ago.

Call him up and give him a 2 year extension guarantee, he will come.

SabresBillsBuffalo 07-29-2012 01:06 PM

1st, 3rd,Stafford,Adam, Sekera,Brennan and maybe even Sundher

SabresAreScaryGood 07-29-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrigsAndGirgs (Post 53088247)
Koivu won't waive, he wants to play with Selanne in Anaheim which is pretty much why he signed there.

Actually your probably right.

Zip15 07-29-2012 01:28 PM

I don't think Anaheim would want Stafford, either, unless Hodgson was going there, too. Why pay 80% of Ryan's salary to Drew if you're not getting the 2C you covet.

JPurp26 07-29-2012 02:08 PM

Wonder what we add to Vanek if we move him for ryan

Sabresfansince1980 07-29-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SabresBillsBuffalo (Post 53088671)
1st, 3rd,Stafford,Adam, Sekera,Brennan and maybe even Sundher

Don't forget Myers, Miller, and Marcus Foligno's first born son.

bills44 07-29-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabresfansince1980 (Post 53090689)
Don't forget Myers, Miller, and Marcus Foligno's first born son.

Throw in Armia, Grigs and Girgs as well.

tsujimoto74 07-29-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bills44 (Post 53091805)
Throw in Armia, Grigs and Girgs as well.

Nah, I got this...
To Buffalo: Bobby Ryan
To Anaheim: Entire Sabres roster, all signed prospects, Terry Pegula's daughter, and $40m


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