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Beacon 08-02-2012 11:05 AM

Rangers Prospect Poll: #11
 
Oscar Lindberg won round 10 and Calle Andersson is added to the poll.

The prospects will be separated into 3 categories: the top-5 are the top prospects, the next 10 are the second-tier and the final-5 are the Projects & Suspects.

Don't forget to write who should be added to the poll.


TOP PROSPECTS

1. LW Chris Kreider
2. LW Carl Hagelin
3. C J.T. Miller
4. D Dylan McIlrath
5. RW Christian Thomas


SECOND TIER

6. RW Jesper Fast
7. D Brady Skjei
8. C Michael St. Croix
9. C Andrew Yogan
10. C Oscar Lindberg

Oscar Lindberg
Center
Born Oct 29 1991
Height 6.00 -- Weight 185 -- Shoots L

2011-12 Skelleftea HC SEL 46 5 5 10 18

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Beacon 08-02-2012 11:11 AM

Went with Boo, hoping he'll be a bigger version of Hagelin.

Add Thomas Spelling, who might be a slipper pick. Looks like he's penciled in to be in the SEL this year at the age of 18, which would be unbelievable, especially for a guy who's not a grinder.

UlfNilsson 08-02-2012 11:13 AM

Boo. Add Roman Ndur.

Trxjw 08-02-2012 11:39 AM

Fogarty. Like I said in the last poll, he's a very intriguing prospect. Made huge improvements in his play away from the puck and turned himself into a 200ft player with Penticon this year, without sacrificing from his offense. If he can put everything together, we're looking at a comparable to David Backes. Perhaps not as adept in every area, but just a notch below with a similar style of play.

I like Nieves' tools, but his hockey IQ is a major concern, IMO.

I hate to give little Bourque the cold shoulder, but add Spelling.

mrjimmyg89 08-02-2012 11:42 AM

Went with Fogarty. He's a year older than Boo and after an average BCHL season is going to college. His big frame is intriguing.

Basically, the reason he's higher than Boo is because he has had the extra year of development. They both have size and are more playmakers than scorers. They have the same kind of potential. I think both have a good shot at making the NHL, if not in a scoring role, but as a bottom 6 player using their size and skating to their advantage.

Time to add one of the goalies: I'm big on Stajcer. I think he could become a starter in the NHL, but will at least become Hank's back up in a couple years.

Bird Law 08-02-2012 11:52 AM

Fogarty. Add Ceresnak.

eco's bones 08-02-2012 11:56 AM

Sticking with Nieves. Adding Stajcer.

Ih8theislanders 08-02-2012 12:02 PM

Boo, add Bourque

pld459666 08-02-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrjimmyg89 (Post 53217569)
Went with Fogarty. He's a year older than Boo and after an average BCHL season is going to college. His big frame is intriguing.

Basically, the reason he's higher than Boo is because he has had the extra year of development. They both have size and are more playmakers than scorers. They have the same kind of potential. I think both have a good shot at making the NHL, if not in a scoring role, but as a bottom 6 player using their size and skating to their advantage.

Not sure 81 points from the teams third line equates to an average season. Granted that team was as stacked as they come, but even the points leader wasn't very far ahead of Fogarty.

I put him higher than Boo right now due to his size and overall ability. May be a notch below Boo offensively, but that is debatable and remains to be seen, however I think his defensive game has taken great strides and will be playing in a decent (not great) but decent ND program this fall. Then with a year under his belt will play against some very tough competition when ND moves to Hockey East for the 2013-14 season.

I want Boo to do well. Being a fellow NY'er I have high hopes for him and his development. I just think Fogarty is the better prospect today and will be down the line.

Beacon 08-02-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 53217853)
Add Ceresnak.


Besides size, I don't see what else Ceresnak has. His skating is bad even compared to Noreau, and same for positioning and hockey sense. He doesn't hit as well as Noreau, nor can he fight. He brings absolutely no offense to the table, again being behind Noreau.

And let's keep in mind that Noreau is a very, very marginal prospect. Though anything can happen, right now nobody projects him as more than a third-pair NHLer and we all recognize that he'll probably be a minor leaguer. And yet, he's a significantly better prospect than Ceresnak.

Short of a massive improvement in the coming season, Ceresnak will not get a contract next year and will go back to Slovakia where he will be only average in that mid-range league.

I think that Ryan Bourque is already better than what Ceresnak will ever be. That said, I like Thomas Spelling who slipped only because he's playing in a weak league.

NYR Viper 08-02-2012 12:09 PM

I went McColgan, add Ceresnak

The Dark Passenger 08-02-2012 12:11 PM

Fogarty, add Spelling.

silverfish 08-02-2012 12:13 PM

Fogarty.

Add Bourque.

Edge 08-02-2012 12:14 PM

Went with Fogarty, who is a bit of a sleeper. But the offensive potential is there.

Boo is flashier, but I don't think he's quite as offensively talented as Fogarty.

Both guys could climbers or afterthoughts this time next year.

Bird Law 08-02-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beacon (Post 53218249)
Besides size, I don't see what else Ceresnak has. His skating is bad even compared to Noreau, and same for positioning and hockey sense. He doesn't hit as well as Noreau, nor can he fight. He brings absolutely no offense to the table, again being behind Noreau.

And let's keep in mind that Noreau is a very, very marginal prospect. Though anything can happen, right now nobody projects him as more than a third-pair NHLer and we all recognize that he'll probably be a minor leaguer. And yet, he's a significantly better prospect than Ceresnak.

Short of a massive improvement in the coming season, Ceresnak will not get a contract next year and will go back to Slovakia where he will be only average in that mid-range league.

I think that Ryan Bourque is already better than what Ceresnak will ever be. That said, I like Thomas Spelling who slipped only because he's playing in a weak league.

His skating isn't that bad at all. He got quite a bit better over the year in juniors. He's probably up there with Noreau as "most improved" out of the guys from last year to this year.

Noreau is no longer a "very, very marginal prospect" at all. He was when we drafted him, but his improvement makes him look like a much more intriguing prospect who can potentially be a bottom pairing guy.

Borque is older than both, more injury prone than both, and much weaker than both. The only thing he does better is skate. I fail to see how he's a better prospect at all if he can't even handle the rigors of the AHL.

Bird Law 08-02-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eco's bones (Post 53217973)
Sticking with Nieves. Adding Stajcer.

Was between Stajcer and Ceresnak for me.

Punxrocknyc19* 08-02-2012 01:03 PM

Went with McColgan.. add Kyle Jean..

Joey Bones 08-02-2012 01:04 PM

Hrivik add Bourque.

Net Front Presence 08-02-2012 01:12 PM

McColgan. Add Stajcer.

dumpin 08-02-2012 01:22 PM

Hrivik,,, add Jean

eco's bones 08-02-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 53219343)
Was between Stajcer and Ceresnak for me.

Not sure if Stajcer is really a better prospect than Talbot to be honest. I went' with him mainly because he's younger. Ceiling for either is a backup NHL goalie--and I'm not sure either will be up to it. I think we've gotten to the point in this where the additions are kind of suspect as far as being very serious prospects.

Not very exciting what's left--Parlett had hopes for but last year's late season demotion to the ECHL makes me wonder seriously about him. Spelling could be a player and he's playing in the SEL next year which is a nice step. Bourque--lack of size, the concussion problem--most of them in the QMJHL--now he's up against bigger, rougher players and he had a crap season last year. Jean--development camp is one thing--AHL is another. Wait and see. Ceresnak--so-so year in Peterborough. This year he earns a contract or doesn't. Wilson--spent all of his first pro season in the ECHL--numbers weren't great. Missiaen--big goalie--so far another ECHL player. Niemi--just doesn't seem to have it. Delisle-ditto.

Bird Law 08-02-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eco's bones (Post 53221245)
Not sure if Stajcer is really a better prospect than Talbot to be honest. I went' with him mainly because he's younger. Ceiling for either is a backup NHL goalie--and I'm not sure either will be up to it. I think we've gotten to the point in this where the additions are kind of suspect as far as being very serious prospects.

Not very exciting what's left--Parlett had hopes for but last year's late season demotion to the ECHL makes me wonder seriously about him. Spelling could be a player and he's playing in the SEL next year which is a nice step. Bourque--lack of size, the concussion problem--most of them in the QMJHL--now he's up against bigger, rougher players and he had a crap season last year. Jean--development camp is one thing--AHL is another. Wait and see. Ceresnak--so-so year in Peterborough. This year he earns a contract or doesn't. Wilson--spent all of his first pro season in the ECHL--numbers weren't great. Missiaen--big goalie--so far another ECHL player. Niemi--just doesn't seem to have it. Delisle-ditto.

Yep, the rest of the pool is REAL shallow. Not a big fan of anyone not yet on the poll. It's picking the best out of a crap batch.

Beacon 08-02-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 53219309)
His skating isn't that bad at all. He got quite a bit better over the year in juniors. He's probably up there with Noreau as "most improved" out of the guys from last year to this year.

Noreau is no longer a "very, very marginal prospect" at all. He was when we drafted him, but his improvement makes him look like a much more intriguing prospect who can potentially be a bottom pairing guy.

Borque is older than both, more injury prone than both, and much weaker than both. The only thing he does better is skate. I fail to see how he's a better prospect at all if he can't even handle the rigors of the AHL.


I would agree with Noreau being very improved and a solid prospect. It was a poor choice of words on my part to use the words "marginal prospect", he's solid, though the odds are still against him making the NHL at this point. I hope he can keep improving because it would be nice to add a big, tough defenseman to our blue line.

I am not yet very hopeful about Ceresnak. Let's see what he does next year.

jas 08-02-2012 03:02 PM

Fogarty. Add Spelling.

Bird Law 08-02-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beacon (Post 53224389)
I would agree with Noreau being very improved and a solid prospect. It was a poor choice of words on my part to use the words "marginal prospect", he's solid, though the odds are still against him making the NHL at this point. I hope he can keep improving because it would be nice to add a big, tough defenseman to our blue line.

I am not yet very hopeful about Ceresnak. Let's see what he does next year.

I think at this point once the guys currently on the poll go, the prospect pool is barren. I really only consider Ceresnak the best of the "rest", I guess. Really not saying much, hah.

I think we have 12 really solid prospects (with Fogarty and Nieves rounding out that top 12) and then a bunch of question marks.


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