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ShawnTHW 08-04-2012 12:26 PM

Team USA World Junior Championship Evaluation Camp Predictions
 
http://thehockeywriters.com/team-usa...p-predictions/

Here are mine. What are yours?

Kulemon 08-04-2012 12:51 PM

I hope Garret Sparks makes the team. He has come a long way this year and played great hockey for Guelph.

BJD 08-04-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PycckuuRocket10 (Post 53274127)

biggs on the first line?

Exit Dose 08-04-2012 01:37 PM

No hope for Welinski or is he just under the radar?

DJB 08-04-2012 01:46 PM

Noesen is going to be a force in the top 6. A shame he and Prince were cut last year. Both probably should have been there...

ShawnTHW 08-04-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDizzlez (Post 53275235)
biggs on the first line?

Was debating switching him with Noesen and even possibly putting him on the 3rd line instead of 2nd so Hartman could take his place, but I think it would be beneficial to have every line have a little bit of grit on it.

ShawnTHW 08-04-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exit Dose (Post 53275495)
No hope for Welinski or is he just under the radar?

I don't see him getting much consideration with the other talent available, but he may prove me wrong.

IHaveNoCreativity 08-04-2012 03:00 PM

I think Paliotta makes the team.

ShawnTHW 08-04-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 53277263)
I think Paliotta makes the team.

He might make it over Grzlecyk, which I would be perfectly alright with. We will see what happens. It will be another long while before the final team roster is posted.

CamDegs13 08-04-2012 04:22 PM

As a Bruins fan, really hope Grzlecyk makes the team.

WeissFC 08-04-2012 04:34 PM

Goalies:
John Gibson
Matt Mahalak

Defense:
Jacob Trouba-Seth Jones
Connor Murphy-Jake McCabe
Robbie Russo-Brady Skjei
Pat Sieloff

Forwards:
Alex Galchenyuk-Stefan Noesen-John Gaudreau
Rocco Grimaldi-JT Miller-Tyler Biggs
Mario Lucia-Nic Kerdiles-Henrik Samuelsson
Reid Boucher-Stefan Matteau-Ryan Hartman
Vincent Trocheck

Line combinations are as good as anyone's guess right now. There are too many the CHL guys on my roster too

bigbadbruins7 08-04-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CamDegs13 (Post 53279231)
As a Bruins fan, really hope Grzlecyk makes the team.

mee too but i do not think it happens. USA has a great amount of defenseman for this age

ShawnTHW 08-05-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeissFC (Post 53279507)
Goalies:
John Gibson
Matt Mahalak

Defense:
Jacob Trouba-Seth Jones
Connor Murphy-Jake McCabe
Robbie Russo-Brady Skjei
Pat Sieloff

Forwards:
Alex Galchenyuk-Stefan Noesen-John Gaudreau
Rocco Grimaldi-JT Miller-Tyler Biggs
Mario Lucia-Nic Kerdiles-Henrik Samuelsson
Reid Boucher-Stefan Matteau-Ryan Hartman
Vincent Trocheck

Line combinations are as good as anyone's guess right now. There are too many the CHL guys on my roster too

Grimaldi and Mahalak weren't invited...

William H Bonney 08-05-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PycckuuRocket10 (Post 53295701)
Grimaldi and Mahalak weren't invited...

Grimaldi was invited and is a lock for the team as long as he's healthy. He pulled out of the camp due to summer school and to make sure his knee is 100% to start the season.

Not to mention that you don't have to be at the summer camp to make the December camp and eventual team as evidenced by every team since they initiated the two-camp process.

IHaveNoCreativity 08-05-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeissFC (Post 53279507)
There are too many the CHL guys on my roster too

Lol wat ? That's like saying there are to many poached players on this team...

It's a strong squad... If you wanna win you take the best...

The best just happen to have a large CHL contingent.

Beesfan 08-05-2012 01:48 PM

Galchenyuk & Gaudreau will be as good as any two forwards in the tournament. US teams looks competitive.

Pilgore88 08-05-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 53296499)
Lol wat ? That's like saying there are to many poached players on this team...

It's a strong squad... If you wanna win you take the best...

The best just happen to have a large CHL contingent.

That's not exactly how it has worked with team USA in the past

IHaveNoCreativity 08-05-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beesfan (Post 53297189)
Galchenyuk & Gaudreau will be as good as any two forwards in the tournament. US teams looks competitive.

No, both are overrated...

They're good but too much hype there...


Grigs and Kucherov
Strome and Rattie
Forsberg and Zibenejad
Barkov

Lots of competition.


It's a strong squad yes, but there's some dam good players going.

IHaveNoCreativity 08-05-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer Farva (Post 53297241)
That's not exactly how it has worked with team USA in the past

Very true, IMO it's cost you guys alot of games.

derriko 08-05-2012 02:06 PM

Yes it has. For example, Noesen didn't make it last year because he played in the CHL, but he's probably on the first line this year....like wtf?

IHaveNoCreativity 08-05-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derriko (Post 53297627)
Yes it has. For example, Noesen didn't make it last year because he played in the CHL, but he's probably on the first line this year....like wtf?

Flawed mentality, our has been bad too...

RNH, Seguin and Murphy all cut for no good reason... Bunz too.

At this age you take the best... Not the most physically mature. The best. Does'nt matter where they play.

cagney 08-05-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 53297471)
Very true, IMO it's cost you guys alot of games.

Who from the CHL, besides Bobby Ryan and perhaps John Carlson, would have been able to win some games that were lost for the US over the years?

Quote:

Originally Posted by derriko (Post 53297627)
Yes it has. For example, Noesen didn't make it last year because he played in the CHL, but he's probably on the first line this year....like wtf?

I don't believe Noesen was good enough to make the difference for the US last year. He could be one of the better players for this year's team if all goes well this fall but not last year.

IHaveNoCreativity 08-05-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagney (Post 53297919)
Who from the CHL, besides Bobby Ryan and perhaps John Carlson, would have been able to win some games that were lost for the US over the years?



I don't believe Noesen was good enough to make the difference for the US last year. He could be one of the better players for this year's team if all goes well this fall but not last year.

Jared Knight, Michael Houser....

I'm not overly familiar with the US cuts...

I would to need to see the camp rosters.

cagney 08-05-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 53298027)
Jared Knight, Michael Houser....

I'm not overly familiar with the US cuts...

I would to need to see the camp rosters.

Knight would have been a role player at best and with the poor play in front of the goalies last year it's hard to imagine Houser doing any better than Campbell or Gibson. I don't think you really have a valid foundation for your opinions and you're pretty much admitting that with what you're saying here.

William H Bonney 08-05-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 53298027)
Jared Knight, Michael Houser....

I'm not overly familiar with the US cuts...

I would to need to see the camp rosters.

Houser was given plenty of chances to make Team USA. He couldn't stop from getting lit up in the goalie camps or the summer camps. He didn't deserve to be there and that's before considering his competition was Campbell and Gibson.

I thought Knight should have been there last year but he's not a player whose addition would have guaranteed a better showing.

You could argue that systematically the US hasn't always chosen the best team possible by always leaning towards NCAA players. I can see some validity in that but it has little to do with individual players being left home outside of cases involving guys like Bobby Ryan and John Carlson as previously mentioned.


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