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NHLFreak 08-06-2012 12:47 PM

Lets Be Honest: Was Mikael Backlund Overhyped?
 
Or do we still see a potential top 6 player here.

What do you see in 2012-13?

Ynnek 08-06-2012 12:51 PM

There is top 6 potential I believe. He looked good before he got injured last year. We will know for sure after this year though.

Sean Monahan 08-06-2012 12:52 PM

I see a swedish meatball with a smashing set of flowing blond hair wearing #11

MarkGio 08-06-2012 01:04 PM

Every year is seems like Backlund has grown more solid rock hands. However is two way game has improved, as well as his ability to stay tough on the puck. This tells me how much Sutter has influenced his game. With the right coach and wingers, I can see Backlund grow into a Conroy type player.

tmurfin 08-06-2012 01:14 PM

The potential is definitely there, he just needs to find a groove, stay healthy, and explode. His hands and shot improved tremendously last season imo, I think/hope Baertschi is going to bring the best out of Backlund

BVicious 08-06-2012 03:32 PM

I think when he undressed the Canucks and scored that beauty goal, we expected that from him consistantly. Fans hoped for that type of prospect. But the comparable to Conroy is exactly what we can hop he becomes. Sven can be his iggy

Johnny Hoxville 08-06-2012 06:05 PM

Was Backlund rushed? Probably yes, but only by a little.

I think we all need to keep in perspective that season was a complete writeoff. Hopefully though his injuries do not affect his overall development.

WhereIsIt 08-06-2012 07:24 PM

He was absolutely overhyped. He never demonstrated that he had a good chance of playing first line in the NHL but he was the first sexy pick the Flames had in a long time so that fact was conveniently overlooked by most fans.

Stewie Griffin 08-06-2012 08:40 PM

Over hyped? By whom? What was the expectation that was "the hype"?






My god, worse threads than Flamesarmstrong22...

Janks 08-06-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin (Post 53337759)
Over hyped? By whom? What was the expectation that was "the hype"?






My god, worse threads than Flamesarmstrong22...

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold your horses :laugh:

Backlund was projected as a 2/3 with good hands and strong defensive play. That's what he is currently.

SmellOfVictory 08-06-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikael Backlund (Post 53337849)
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold your horses :laugh:

Backlund was projected as a 2/3 with good hands and strong defensive play. That's what he is currently.

Well, if we ignore the HFBoards rating of 8.5C that he got. ;)

Ynnek 08-06-2012 08:52 PM

Its all about Jankowski now so its time to hype him. I predict 93 goals in his rookie year :sarcasm:

Signature 08-06-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ynnek (Post 53338145)
Its all about Jankowski now so its time to hype him. I predict 93 goals in his rookie year :sarcasm:

93? You think he's going to miss games to injury or something? He's slated for at least 160 before the ASG... and those are the conservative estimates I've seen so far.

I Hate Chris Butler 08-06-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmellOfVictory (Post 53337973)
Well, if we ignore the HFBoards rating of 8.5C that he got. ;)

HF has never been, and will never be, credible with prospect ratings. Using those as evidence is laughable.

MarkGio 08-06-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmellOfVictory (Post 53337973)
Well, if we ignore the HFBoards rating of 8.5C that he got. ;)

Well he made it to the NHL after all and he'll likely have a full career. If he can win faceoffs and park himself in front of the net more, there's no reason why he can't help the team win games. His positive corsi numbers reflect a better game than his numbers suggest.

I Hate Chris Butler 08-06-2012 09:57 PM

Backlund will be a 50-60 point player when he fills out in a best case scenario. Worst case, we move him for an asset(s) like Lombardi.

Ynnek 08-07-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Autograph (Post 53338695)
93? You think he's going to miss games to injury or something? He's slated for at least 160 before the ASG... and those are the conservative estimates I've seen so far.

I was assuming he would be more of the playmaker on the line with Baertschi getting 184 goals and Gaudreau getting 140. So about 400 points for Jankowski.

tfong 08-07-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by I Hate Jay Feaster (Post 53339867)
Backlund will be a 50-60 point player when he fills out in a best case scenario. Worst case, we move him for an asset(s) like Lombardi.

Still think he will become this eventually. Just maybe not with the flames.

CGYPUKSUX 08-07-2012 09:12 AM

Backlund will be fine. The kid ran into some injuries last year, one of which was to a hand. It's hard coming back from a hand injury, especially early on in the season when you don't get a chance to keep up with the other players as their performance levels increase out of camp and through Christmas. Backlund's broken finger really set him back and hurt his ability to pass and shoot the puck. We'll see what he does this season, with a fully healed hand, before calling him a bust or a disappointment.

SmellOfVictory 08-07-2012 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by I Hate Jay Feaster (Post 53338735)
HF has never been, and will never be, credible with prospect ratings. Using those as evidence is laughable.

It does mean that someone was overhyping him. I wasn't on HFBoards when he was a prospect so I don't know how the rest of the people here felt about him.

@MarkGio: I'd never disagree with you. I personally think he was the best centre on the Flames last season, which I know goes against prevailing opinion to a great extent.

GototheFlamestotheGo 08-07-2012 11:36 AM

B.Sutter played Backs in primarily defensive situations to cultivate his two-way game and on that front, it worked very well. Backs has been one of our best defensive centres despite being a poor faceoff winner.

In the few opportunities he had on the powerplay and with the top 6 lines, I felt that he showed promise but it wasn't consistent because, especially in 5 on 5 situations, he would retreat back too quickly to be in a proper defensive position. As a result, he kept taking himself out of a scoring position. I think playing in Hartley's more offensive system will really help him breakout.

I'm hoping that come training camp, he will be playing with Baertschi and the two of them can re-ignite the chemistry they showed in last year's camp and pre-season. I think playing with a defensively sound playmaking centre like Backlund help Sven just as much as Sven's skill and forecheck ability will help Backs.

I don't think he was overhyped or underhyped. I think he's a solid young player who still has room for improvement and people are disappointed simply because he isn't the top line centre that they envisioned.

Zoombie 08-07-2012 01:43 PM

I really hope he breaks out and shows some offensive upside. Honestly though, I think he is done after this year and will go to Europe or somewhere else. He does have some skill, but unless he can prove he belongs in the top 6 he really doesn't have much use in the NHL. He is too small for the bottom 6, and unless he can put up at least modest goal totals he won't generate much interest next offseason.

Skobel24 08-07-2012 01:48 PM

I think Backlund is destined to be that #2/3 center. Capable #2, but ideally a #3.

Trae 08-07-2012 02:34 PM

Young 23 year old player has a disappointing injury riddled sophomore season playing on the 3rd line in a defensive system. HE SUCKS, NO FUTURE.

I really think Backlund will step up this year, playing 70+ games and getting about 40 points. He's dedicated, has heart, passion, and he loves Calgary. I don't know why everyone is so eager to trade him or consider him a bust.

InfinityIggy 08-07-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ynnek (Post 53346987)
I was assuming he would be more of the playmaker on the line with Baertschi getting 184 goals and Gaudreau getting 140. So about 400 points for Jankowski.

This is kind of sad, I know our prospect pool sucks and all but stop overrating Jankowski.

His potential is max around 300 points. You're way off.


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