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BigG44 08-10-2012 11:04 AM

2012-13 Prospect Updates
 
QMJHL
Lagace, Maxime (Prince Edward Island)
Vance, Troy (Victoriaville)

OHL
Faksa, Radek (Kitchener)
Ritchie, Brett (Niagara)
Smith, Gemel (Owen Sound)

WHL
Stransky, Matej (Saskatoon)
Troock, Branden (Seattle)
Winther, Mike (Prince Albert)

NCAA
Guptill, Alex (Michigan) Opens season on Thur., 10/11, vs. RIT
McKenzie, Curtis (Miami) Opens season on Fri.,10/12, vs. Colgate
Winkler, Scott (Colorado College) Opens season on Fri.,10/12, vs. Clarkson
Shore, Devin (Maine) Opens season on Fri.,10/12, vs. Notre Dame @ Ice Breaker Tournament
Sinitsyn, Dmitry (UMass-Lowell) Opens season on Fri.,10/12, vs. Vermont

Sweden
Bystrom, Ludwig (MODO)
Klingberg, John (Skellefteå AIK)
Molin, Emil (Brynäs)

Finland
Jokipakka, Jyrki (Ilves)
Kiviaho, Henri (KalPa)
Lindell, Esa (Jokerit)

BigG44 08-10-2012 06:51 PM

KalPa played their first pre-season game today, and this is what the official site had to say about Kiviaho:

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Practice match, the team deserves a special mention junior department, who redeemed them well up to expectations. Goalkeeper Henri Kiviaho played one or two little unfortunate situation with the exception of a safe and a good match.
I can't find actual stats other than the final score (KalPa won 2-1) so I don't know if Kiviaho played the whole game.

MODO lost, and Bystrom didn't show up on the scoresheet.

EDIT: I was able to figure out Kiviaho played the entire game ... FYI ... Swedish is much easier to follow in Google Translate than Finnish.

BigG44 08-11-2012 09:35 AM

This will probably never be confirmed, but quite a few Spit fans think that Jack Campbell was one of the players involved in the investigation that led to Windsor being fined $400K and losing several high draft picks for recruitment violations.

Two players are at the center of the issue, but the OHL didn't name them. No media people are naming names or guessing, but they are speculating it's American's who previously intended on going to the NCAA.

I'd say Campbell would be a pretty good guess at this point. I wonder what was higher .... Jack Cambell's signing bonus with Dallas or the potential bribe's paid to the unnamed players. Campbell only get's $90K a year from Dallas in signing bonuses.

LatvianTwist 08-11-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigG44 (Post 53478517)
This will probably never be confirmed, but quite a few Spit fans think that Jack Campbell was one of the players involved in the investigation that led to Windsor being fined $400K and losing several high draft picks for recruitment violations.

Two players are at the center of the issue, but the OHL didn't name them. No media people are naming names or guessing, but they are speculating it's American's who previously intended on going to the NCAA.

I'd say Campbell would be a pretty good guess at this point. I wonder what was higher .... Jack Cambell's signing bonus with Dallas or the potential bribe's paid to the unnamed players. Campbell only get's $90K a year from Dallas in signing bonuses.

Is there a chance he unknowingly took part, or would he have had to have known? I'm not really clear on what exactly was offered and how that all works.

BigG44 08-11-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LatvianTwist (Post 53482005)
Is there a chance he unknowingly took part, or would he have had to have known? I'm not really clear on what exactly was offered and how that all works.

From what I can tell, no one is reporting what exactly happened. The only known facts are that it was a recruiting violation, it happen some time after 2009, and it was 2 incidents (meaning two players).

Since it's recruiting, you're likely looking at a player that wasn't planning on coming to the OHL. They made a last second decision to join Windsor ... that's why Campbell is a top choice for being one of the players. He was committed to Michigan until just before the draft. Dallas played no part in his decision to go to Windsor. That choice was made before the draft.

The incident is tied to some sort of payment ... either cash or benefits. Big signing bonus have always been rumored but never proven. Apparently in this instance ... they have proof.

LatvianTwist 08-11-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigG44 (Post 53493813)
From what I can tell, no one is reporting what exactly happened. The only known facts are that it was a recruiting violation, it happen some time after 2009, and it was 2 incidents (meaning two players).

Since it's recruiting, you're likely looking at a player that wasn't planning on coming to the OHL. They made a last second decision to join Windsor ... that's why Campbell is a top choice for being one of the players. He was committed to Michigan until just before the draft. Dallas played no part in his decision to go to Windsor. That choice was made before the draft.

The incident is tied to some sort of payment ... either cash or benefits. Big signing bonus have always been rumored but never proven. Apparently in this instance ... they have proof.

Sounds like Vail, Fowler, and Campbell are the 3 being look at. Vail was going the NCAA route until right after the OHL draft, and Fowler and Campbell are obvious.

Krishna 08-12-2012 11:43 PM

Can you guys give me any info on Alex Chiasson?

BigG44 08-13-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Krishna (Post 53523941)
Can you guys give me any info on Alex Chiasson?

He'll have a shot at earning a roster spot in the NHL, but he's mostly likely headed to Texas.

His competition probably boils down to Wandell, Garbutt, Secviour, Fraser, Glennie, and Reilly Smith.

There are basically 3 spots open for 1 game day spot. The most likely scenario IMO is the team has no issue with Wandell, Garbutt, and Sceviour rotating healthy scratches for the final game day spot.

They won't keep Chiasson, Fraser, Glennie, and Reilly Smith in a situation where they aren't playing every game. In addition, I don't think those guys are going to earn 4th line minutes either. That means they have to likely push Brenden Morrow or Tomas Vincour to 4th line.

It's a long, hard road to the NHL for him to start the year, but I wouldn't call it impossible.

Still ... if the season starts on time, my money is on him not starting in the NHL. He'll get Top 6 minutes plus PP and PK time with Texas.

If you're looking for a scouting report, he's a big winger that shored up previous issues with his skating. He's more of a playmaker than a goal scorer, and he's possibly Dallas' most polished two-way prospect.

This feels like it could be a fantasy keeper league question so I'll add that IMO he is an ideal complement to Jamie Benn and Loui Eriksson. His playmaking skills would be huge for that line. Plus, he can help Benn with faceoffs. His upside is pretty significant, and he's Dallas best forward prospect at this point IMO. I think he'll make some small impact at the NHL level this season, but he should be a regular by next season.

At this point ... I could see him replacing Jagr next season and two of the other guys I mentioned replacing Ryder and Morrow. I'm honestly more excited about 2013-14 for the Dallas Stars than I am 2012-13.

BigG44 08-13-2012 11:54 PM

Troy Vance starts training camp with Victoriaville on Wednesday. On ice stuff starts for P.E.I. tomorrow, but Maxime Lagace is still with Team Canada in the Canada-Russia Challenge. That ends tomorrow though with a final game. Most expect Lagace to backup Subban in this game.

BigG44 08-14-2012 07:35 PM

Emil Molin must not have suffered a serious injury at the Swedish camp. He's already back practicing with his team, and he played in a pre-season game.

Jussi 08-18-2012 06:32 AM

Jokerit play their first real pre-season game today, against Adler Mannheim in hte European Trphy. Lindell is playing with Ossi Väänänen on the first pairing.

BigG44 08-18-2012 12:31 PM

In KalPa's opening game, Henri Kiviaho backed up Juha Toivonen. Kiviaho didn't get any action, and the team lost 5-1. From the live reports, it seems like Toivonen made several big saves, but he was ultimately overwhelmed by poor play of the team in front of him.

Emil Molin was given 3 stars (seems to be NHL's equivalent of first star of the game) despite not registering a point in the 4-2 win for Brynäs. I'm going to look for a game article to see how he did.

BigG44 08-18-2012 12:47 PM

This is an older article about Emil Molin from May.

I just found it now, and it says he signed a 2 year contract with Brynas. He's planning on playing those 2 years because he doesn't feel like he's close to the NHL yet. He wants to establish himself as a player in the SEL first.

BigG44 08-18-2012 07:16 PM

Based on the game updates, Lindell had a good, active game. He had several shots, and he caught the crossbar once.

He didn't get on the score sheet in the loss (well ... one holding penalty), but he did enough to earn 1 star for the game (Pretty sure this is equivalent to NHL's 3rd star of the game).

BigG44 08-18-2012 07:23 PM

I believe this quote is from the head coach, but he is talking about Lindell and another young defender for sure:

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-Both excellent game, and we are really pleased with it. It has been known all along that we have a team of good young players. They seemed, that were able to take responsibility for the position offered, Lämsä praised.
That was from the official website. They also had this to say about Lindell's performance:

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Joker shirt defender Esa Lindell made ​​his debut men's hockey team. He played the captain Ossi Väänänen as a couple and also received overwhelming time. Lindell had a one good place to finish the second round, but did not quite succeed in finishing. Even in the third, he hit the crossbar when Jokerit sought frantically lead paint.

Captain Awesome 08-19-2012 12:00 AM

I think the Stars should move him, humans have an aversion to lead paint and should avoid being on teams that frantically search for it.

LatvianTwist 08-19-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome (Post 53691383)
I think the Stars should move him, humans have an aversion to lead paint and should avoid being on teams that frantically search for it.

Yea, playing the captain isn't exactly a good showing of character either.

Jussi 08-19-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigG44 (Post 53686757)
I believe this quote is from the head coach, but he is talking about Lindell and another young defender for sure:



That was from the official website. They also had this to say about Lindell's performance:

Lindell was among the "star players" for Jokerit, he got one star while another young defender Petteri Lindbohm got two. I think Mannheim's goalie got the 3 stars.

BigG44 08-19-2012 09:44 AM

The QMJHL started pre-season games already, but Lagace and Vance haven't played yet.

keslerburrows 08-22-2012 12:43 PM

Tell me about Radek Faksa. How NHL ready is he. This year? Next year?

LatvianTwist 08-22-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keslerburrows (Post 53776213)
Tell me about Radek Faksa. How NHL ready is he. This year? Next year?

As long as he has a good/great camp, he'll probably get the 9 game stint and then go back to juniors. With Roy gone, we're gonna need all the help we can get to fill his spot.

I'd be surprised if he's not starting by '13-'14.

piqued 08-22-2012 01:45 PM

I still think don't think he's going to get thrown immediately into the NHL. The Stars have never done that.

I would expect another year of juniors, another year in the AHL, and then joining the Stars in 14-15.

Fly Like a C5 08-22-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 53778407)
I still think don't think he's going to get thrown immediately into the NHL. The Stars have never done that.

I would expect another year of juniors, another year in the AHL, and then joining the Stars in 14-15.

If he doesn't make the NHL, he's going to have to spend two more seasons in the CHL before he can jump to the AHL. I do agree with you that its unlikely that he spends anytime in the NHL season. He would have to have a spectacular training camp and preseason for the Stars to even consider that.

piqued 08-22-2012 02:48 PM

I thought that agreement expired. Or at least is up for renegotiation with the new CBA.

Fly Like a C5 08-22-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by piqued (Post 53780451)
I thought that agreement expired. Or at least is up for renegotiation with the new CBA.

It's tied to the CBA so it's status for this season is currently unknown. The rule could change, but I think it will remain the same. They didn't bother to change the rule last time they negotiated the CBA and no one seems to have brought it up this time. For now I'm operating under the assumption that the rule will remain in place.


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